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knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:30:00 -
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I can't, I just can't. I want to get back into dust but I can't do it with this albatross around my neck. please just give me a way out. I hate the scout soo much. it's so useless either fix it so I can get lots of sp and spec out of it or refund my sp and let me have a useful class instead.
no matter how well fit the class is it's still not competitive. it's a light armor speedfreik stealthy ninja, however it's not fast or stealthy so making a fit to compliment the strengths of the class is impossible and other classes currently can perform tasks that a scout would specialize in far better that the scout can.
sneaky hacker > armor logi
sneaky sniper > armor assault
speed assault > shield assault
speed hacker > shield logi
glass cannon sniper > shield assault
no matter how you fit a scout somebody does your job with higher EHP and more module/equip slots.
should I not be allowed out of that class? it's not my fault that it sucks, I'm not fitting it poorly (all complex mods on a proto suit) yet I struggle to stay positive KDR. yes you could say get gud, but you use a normal fit on an MLT suit and you'll have about the same EHP, speed, and available slots that I do on a proto fit...
I don't care if you send half my current sp to doomheim just let me out.
Denial
Anger
Bargaining < me
Depression
Acceptance |
Django Quik
Dust2Dust.
Top Men.
1364
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:33:00 -
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One day mate, one day. Plenty of us manage quite well with the scout suits but it is a daily struggle. I hope you stick to it and we'll all be much better off in the not too distant future. |
Aero Yassavi
PIE Inc.
Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris
1397
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:33:00 -
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Scouts are getting love soon, maybe 1.5 but if not then almost definitely 1.6. My only concern though is they will actually give love to the light frame while the scout suit remains a pointless specialization. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5991
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:34:00 -
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Amusingly, scout has always been and will likely always be my favorite playstyle in this game.
However, since our decisions only matter in direct proportion to CCPs decisions, I decided not to skill into a class that CCP clearly has no idea how to balance (actually, I did, since I initially went for dropships like a masochist). I chose not to play my favorite playstyle because I have watched CCP balance there game for over a year.
My decision was not my own, it was CCPs, and this is why being unable to alter past decisions is flawed at best and detrimental to the game at worst. |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
236
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:38:00 -
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DUST Fiend wrote:Amusingly, scout has always been and will likely always be my favorite playstyle in this game.
However, since our decisions only matter in direct proportion to CCPs decisions, I decided not to skill into a class that CCP clearly has no idea how to balance (actually, I did, since I initially went for dropships like a masochist). I chose not to play my favorite playstyle because I have watched CCP balance there game for over a year.
My decision was not my own, it was CCPs, and this is why being unable to alter past decisions is flawed at best and detrimental to the game at worst.
it's one of mine as well, I spent my first 3 builds as a scout and the the last 2 as a tanker. when tanks went to the dogs I used my respec to get my scout suit back and low and behold it was worse than the tank! |
Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1074
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:38:00 -
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I don't get these complaints about scouts. I run scout as a secondary role with old man reflexes and I keep a positive KDR when I do. Plus, it's a lot of fun. Most of my skills are in logistics and armor tanking and I run an advanced Minmatar Scout with shields. |
knight of 6
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
236
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:43:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:I don't get these complaints about scouts. I run scout as a secondary role with old man reflexes and I keep a positive KDR when I do. Plus, it's a lot of fun. Most of my skills are in logistics and armor tanking and I run an advanced Minmatar Scout with shields.
"secondary role" you have a way out, I have 7 million sp in a proto gallente suit. the minmatar one is faster(less broken). |
Oswald Rehnquist
Abandoned Privilege
General Tso's Alliance
153
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:52:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:I don't get these complaints about scouts. I run scout as a secondary role with old man reflexes and I keep a positive KDR when I do. Plus, it's a lot of fun. Most of my skills are in logistics and armor tanking and I run an advanced Minmatar Scout with shields.
My main complaint is that the only viable scout is a alpha damage speedster (KinCat Shottie, KinCat NK), nothing to do with stealth and everything to do with positioning with long run arounds, nothing to do with deception/sabotage and everything to do with pure slaying, or anything that requires more unique gameplay.
I've even debating doing dropships as a secondary because the monotony that they have given us. If I wanted to play a paper shock assault I would have chosen a Medium Frame and build him that way with Kincat lows and Dmg Mod highs.
Edit:
I also want to add that in 2 months they will start looking into scouts, in one month they will be adding more support roles for those who favor Beta scouts (and everyone else) over Alpha scouts.
I am more curious as what you are looking for in recommended changes to the scout. |
J Lav
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
183
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Posted - 2013.08.31 18:46:00 -
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Hey I can understand speccing into something and discovering it doesn't work for you. But to say that scouts all round suck... I've had games against Shotty go Bang and a few others that keep 3-4 guys occupied trying to catch that guy, or contain them.
It isn't about going positive, so much as filling a role on the battlefield, and bringing your team to victory. Just like logis and heavies, they aren't to be the bread and butter of the team.
I can perfectly understand the desire to spec into something else though when you get tired of being the sacrifice and the diversion. |
Cpl Foster USMC
Vherokior Combat Logistics
Minmatar Republic
148
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Posted - 2013.08.31 18:53:00 -
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at least you know what stage of grief you're on....that's half the battle right there.....
good luck... |
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Shotty GoBang
Intara Direct Action
Caldari State
744
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Posted - 2013.08.31 23:51:00 -
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knight of 6 wrote:
Denial
Anger
Bargaining < me
Depression
Acceptance
That's hilarious bro. +1 |
STEALTH HUNTER ZERO
D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N
D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
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Posted - 2013.09.01 00:16:00 -
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I only have adv light frame galj suit with lvl 4 shotty, adv knives, enhanced ferr. plates, enhanced kin cats, and 2 complex shield extenders. I go positive 95% of the time at least, however I do die a lot some battles so I wish they would reduce the cost of certain suit/modules until changes are made to the class. I hope it gets a speed buff. |
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