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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 14:56:00 -
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Sounds good, but,
what about if you miss one day? Drop 500? (Good) loose it all and start again? (Turns game into a chore)
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:00:00 -
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P.s., have to say, looking forward to this patch!
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:53:00 -
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N1ck Comeau wrote:signing in once for 30 seconds isn't a chore. It just rewards those who can get on. There must be one part in the day where you would be able to do it
Mate, depends on individual circumstances. Maybe not if you are a young~un, but this is getting us to jump through hoops. Pointless, and adds stress to life, this is supposed to be a game, yes it is a little more than that. You would get upset if i stole some sp from you, admit it. Im not saying they have, im saying it is a dumb system that will encourage burnout.
Please change this CCP. |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:55:00 -
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Auld Syne wrote:major faux-pas wrote:Sounds good, but,
what about if you miss one day? Drop 500? (Good) loose it all and start again? (Turns game into a chore)
Well It's not like you have to, it's just a small bonus per day. No one is holding a gun up to you. There's better reason to complain about Active and passive boosters before you complain about this trivial bonus.
Wow, thanks for this genius you rude ******. |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:56:00 -
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Wee tard |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 15:57:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:So if you travel on the weekends then you'll miss how much by not being able to login saturday+ sunday?
Or Friday+saturday+sunday?
Seems like you miss the whole accumulation, if this is so it seems like pain in the ass, and rewards those who are prepared to log on for the sake of it.
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major faux-pas
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:04:00 -
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Auld Syne wrote:major faux-pas wrote:Wow, thanks for this genius you rude ******. No one is being rude, I'm saying this is nothing but small bonus, nothing to get caught up about. I'm only "rude" when people are being childish or stupid and you just made the list with that comment.
Ignoring mr mature and know all above, seriously, you know what this will get like, after a week playing every day, you realise you wont be home, you call the girlfriend / wife... " Baby, can you just log on for me.... " Before you know it youll be washing up for a week!
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:05:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:You're complaining that you'll (maybe) be missing out on bonus SP.
They aren't "taking" SP from you. You aren't magically entitled to that SP just because it's been announced that the extra SP is on offer for those players who can meet the requirements to earn it.
From the sound of things, you don't even need to play a match, you just have to sign in. If you have to be away from your PS3 for some reason (staying in another home, for example), you miss out on a bonus. Big deal. Next time you're on, you get that bonus. This isn't a problem. It's an EXTRA bonus on top of what you're earning. You're not LOSING anything by not getting it.
If I have a huge bag of candy and share some with my girlfriend one night, then share the remainder with both her and a couple of our friends the following night, we never "stole" candy from those friends on the night when it was just the two of us. This situation is no different, except that (hopefully) nobody here is dating their PS3 or an unfinished FPS.
Please dont mis quote me. I never said theyre taking sp |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:07:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:You're complaining that you'll (maybe) be missing out on bonus SP.
They aren't "taking" SP from you. You aren't magically entitled to that SP just because it's been announced that the extra SP is on offer for those players who can meet the requirements to earn it.
From the sound of things, you don't even need to play a match, you just have to sign in. If you have to be away from your PS3 for some reason (staying in another home, for example), you miss out on a bonus. Big deal. Next time you're on, you get that bonus. This isn't a problem. It's an EXTRA bonus on top of what you're earning. You're not LOSING anything by not getting it.
If I have a huge bag of candy and share some with my girlfriend one night, then share the remainder with both her and a couple of our friends the following night, we never "stole" candy from those friends on the night when it was just the two of us. This situation is no different, except that (hopefully) nobody here is dating their PS3 or an unfinished FPS.
You are losing something if you dont log on, and you dont need a long example to see it do you?
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:14:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:No, you didn't say anything about them stealing SP. major faux-pas wrote:You would get upset if i stole some sp from you, admit it. But you still said that.
Yyyep, i said that... You infer i am saying ccp stole? No, its an example to show that sp matters to you. |
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:35:00 -
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Lol, Yeah, look, im trying to complain here, stop makin me laugh
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:39:00 -
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Definitely agree should be gradual, its not exactly healthy encouraging this level of addiction... Ccp? At least make us beleive we dont need to log in every day...
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:41:00 -
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Oh no, did i say "need", oops.
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:58:00 -
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Lol. I am booked in to the clinic. This one may take some explaining... ;) |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 16:59:00 -
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Anyway, im trying to do some serious whining here, stop distractin me |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 19:18:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:The thing is, you aren't "losing" something you've been given.
" You're doing something else that loses you that SP. "
Of course i had to quote that ;).... And it is entirely true. No matter how you put positive spin on the language. 'Bonus' whatever. (Everything is relative, e=mc and stuff.)
So you lose sp for doing all those other positive things, i.e. life.
So, actually, tjaking it further: ccp punish you in sp terms for getting on with life. Im all for reward for PLAYING. Reward for constant logging on, or even daily play is ridiculous and, dare i say it, irresponsible. |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 20:23:00 -
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Garrett Blacknova wrote:major faux-pas wrote:Garrett Blacknova wrote:The thing is, you aren't "losing" something you've been given.
" You're doing something else that loses you that SP. " Of course i had to quote that ;).... And it is entirely true. No matter how you put positive spin on the language. 'Bonus' whatever. (Everything is relative, e=mc and stuff.) So you lose sp for doing all those other positive things, i.e. life. So, actually, tjaking it further: ccp punish you in sp terms for getting on with life. Im all for reward for PLAYING. Reward for constant logging on, or even daily play is ridiculous and, dare i say it, irresponsible. Of course you had to quote that and ignore this: Garrett Blacknova wrote:Giving players a reward for being regularly active in the game is not making you "lose" something. It's allowing you to gain something if you want it enough. If you have reasons not to play, or you have commitments that prevent you from coming home and signing in, that just means those things are higher priorities than your SP. In most cases, this probably shows that you're a well-balanced and mature person who can keep their gaming life in perspective (unlike me at at times) Because the part you quoted WASN'T entirely correct and I clarified why later in my post. I said what I did there to run with the phrasing I was replying to, not because it's an accurate representation. If a wealthy guy says he'll donate money to charity, that doesn't magically entitle every charity in the world to money from that person. If I say I'm going to give some candy to my friends when they visit, that doesn't magically mean that a friend who doesn't visit can expect me to take candy to their place when I visit them. And when CCP tell us they're giving us an additional SP reward for signing into the game daily, that doesn't mean you should get the reward without having to sign in. Missing out on an opportunity doesn't cost you anything. Failure to earn stuff doesn't mean you lost it, because you never had it to lose. You lost the OPPORTUNITY TO EARN SP, and you lost it because of YOUR actions, not because of anything the devs did.
Chill out buddy. But Gain and loss is relative and subjective. If ccp NOW, give us all 2 rewards, passive and active, the only diff is how much you play. now they give an additional reward for frequency. If you cannot honour this you will not get the maximum reward. Therefore a loss by comparison. Example, a bunch of monkeys is given food for sucking ****, you deny it to everyone else, they loose out, because they dont want to fall in line. Simple, you withold people loose out. I guess your going to tell me the people choose not to suck, well thats true, and the game dies. |
major faux-pas
Valor Coalition RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.31 20:24:00 -
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Except for the monkeys who like the new rules
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.08.31 20:31:00 -
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Anyway, are we even sure theyll drop the whole accumulated bonus with just 1 day inactivity? I still cant beleive who cooked that one up or WHY?
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.09.02 19:42:00 -
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Ryme Intrinseca wrote:Tectonic Fusion wrote:Wait... You guys care about just 28k SP??? If so, don't be. It should take less than 7 matches to get that much. Unless you hit your cap, in which case it will take you at least 28 matches (without booster). That's a week of games, pretty much. Quite a big deal. And it's not like the 'bonus' is a one time thing. Suppose that, every other weekend, you can't log in - hardly an unusual situation. In six months you'll have 370,000 less SP than someone who logs in every day. That's equivalent to 370 post-cap matches. Just another way CCP screws over casual players in favour of uber-grinders.
^^^
THIS. exactly. I just dont get why they want to widen the gap here.... They always talk about balance, and the 'long game' but this seems designed for the opposite!
What are they trying to acheive? |
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major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:22:00 -
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I-Shayz-I wrote:it's 3000-6000 per day. That's not very much at all, that's like logging on, playing a match or two, and then getting off.
This discussion of 'how big it is' is frusrating. We all know how big it is in numerical terms, what it means is different to us all. Moreover CCP decided it is big enough to acheive whatever it is they are trying to acheive. Sorry to the last poster, you've got the reply intended for many others trying to convince us it is not a lot of SP.
It is enough to be a factor in the game, period. |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.09.05 16:29:00 -
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Sete Clifton wrote:I'm assuming (and hoping) that this log in bonus is just temporary and that it will eventually become more of a daily challenge type thing. Like one day the challenge is "get 15 assists" and then the next day it's "get 2 double kills in a single match" and so on. They could then also add weekly and monthly challenges that would take longer but be worth more SP/items.
'The jury is still out'
We are all happy to be rewarded as per the old system 1) for playing (Active) and 2) coming back (Passive) But not all are happy with this login business.
Personally, I think the login reward is pathetic and insulting. But many seem to disagree.
There is now a dev blog on the subject if you want to see/contribute - https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=107229&find=unread |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:26:00 -
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Kam Elto wrote:1) you can't "lose" something that you never had to begin with.
2) there is an unlimited amount of SP out there to be earned. go earn it.
3) people who frequent institutions or work longer hours generally are rewarded (frequent flier miles or overtime pay for example). why should it be different in video games?
4) having both active and passive boosters should add 50% to the log-in bonuses.
YAWN the loose conundrum
1) does that mean you cant lose a game? e.g. a football match? 2) different whether you like it or not - you get rewarded for your custom, not for logging into their website 4) is that an idea? seems reasonable
If the general populace is happy jumping through hoops, e.g. loosing civil liberties, does that mean no-one else looses? no of course not - people with character LOOSE due to a system which rewards a lower state of being - supported by short-sighted and unimaginitive masses. Some things are wrong by their very nature. rewarding me for turning my playstation on and off is a perfect example of this madness. |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:47:00 -
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"You just necro-ed a thread about PAST speculation. Why?"
sorry, dont understand your meaning |
major faux-pas
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Posted - 2013.09.05 17:48:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:every single iphone game ever released uses this system. get used to it, it's the way of the future
No fate but what we make... |
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