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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:28:00 -
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We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Lost stats. Yes ? |
richiesutie 2
Seraphim Auxiliaries
277
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:31:00 -
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ISK per kill. ISK per death. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:33:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:ISK per kill. ISK per death.
yeah.. that ^ too.  |
shaman oga
Nexus Balusa Horizon
DARKSTAR ARMY
519
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:36:00 -
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Add more stats instead of deleting stats.
If you are talking about leaderboards i completely don't care about KDR and win/loss. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
263
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:37:00 -
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name 1 FPS online game without K/D ratio and kills stats |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
976
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:41:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:name 1 FPS online game without K/D ratio and kills stats
Name 1 FPS game with an active economy ( ISK ), where you have to buy equipment every battle, where War Points is more important than kills, and wining or losing a battle give you better ISK rewards....ohh... and Team Work is more important that individual stats. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
264
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:45:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:name 1 FPS online game without K/D ratio and kills stats Name 1 FPS game with an active economy ( ISK ), where you have to buy equipment every battle, where War Points is more important than kills, and wining or losing a battle give you better ISK rewards....ohh... and Team Work is more important that individual stats.
its not polite to answer a question with another question even if you try to dodge the ownage
you first
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
976
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:47:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:name 1 FPS online game without K/D ratio and kills stats Name 1 FPS game with an active economy ( ISK ), where you have to buy equipment every battle, where War Points is more important than kills, and wining or losing a battle give you better ISK rewards....ohh... and Team Work is more important that individual stats. its not polite to answer a question with another question even if you try to dodge the ownage you first
I did answer you question ... Dust 514 is NOT a normal FPS. |
Ninjanomyx
TeamPlayers
EoN.
292
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:48:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ?
LOL @ Win/Loss......just WP |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
266
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:51:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:name 1 FPS online game without K/D ratio and kills stats Name 1 FPS game with an active economy ( ISK ), where you have to buy equipment every battle, where War Points is more important than kills, and wining or losing a battle give you better ISK rewards....ohh... and Team Work is more important that individual stats. its not polite to answer a question with another question even if you try to dodge the ownage you first I did answer you question ... Dust 514 is NOT a normal FPS.
if you say so , now the answer to ur Q is Dust514
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
230
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:52:00 -
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i think we need more stats rather than less, and if the economy and teamwork are your only reasons for wanting kdr and what the heck ever removed im goin to say ur logic is not logical. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
266
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:53:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i think we need more stats rather than less, and if the economy and teamwork are your only reasons for wanting kdr and what the heck ever removed im goin to say ur logic is not logical.
he must have rage quit some match and come to rage here
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
976
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:58:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i think we need more stats rather than less, and if the economy and teamwork are your only reasons for wanting kdr and what the heck ever removed im goin to say ur logic is not logical. he must have rage quit some match and come to rage here
I don't even playing yet ... And if you check my stats, you'll see that i will be losing allot by suggesting what i suggesting ..I'm not exactly a NooB.. you know. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
267
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:59:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i think we need more stats rather than less, and if the economy and teamwork are your only reasons for wanting kdr and what the heck ever removed im goin to say ur logic is not logical. he must have rage quit some match and come to rage here I don't even playing yet ... And if you check my stats, you'll see that i will be losing allot by suggesting what i suggesting ..I'm not exactly a NooB.. you know.
sorry i dont care aboot KD/R , its just that your demand is r******d |
Protocake JR
Ancient Exiles
597
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:03:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ?
Lol yeah right.
I laugh whenever my team on ambush gets decimated. I'll go 17-2 but come in third place on my team to two dudes going 3-15. WP farming is not a reliable indicator of how effective you are at what you are doing.
Reviving 2 guys only for all three of you to get destroyed in the next 10 seconds.
Supplying ammo to people who still have 3 magazines worth of ammo left (and will probably get killed in the next 10 seconds).
Rather than taking out a gun and killing the enemy, you take out a repair tool at the worst time and farm war points until the enemy kills all of you in the next 10 seconds.
WP rewards are arbitrary and are dependent on what CCP decides what they are worth.
KDR is the only hard, reliable data that gives a good indicator of survivability and killing efficiency. KDR isn't perfect, and it doesn't paint the whole picture, but I will trust someone who has a 8.71 KDR and 100,000 WP over someone who has a 1.12 KDR and 1,000,000 WP. |
semperfi1999
Imperfects
Negative-Feedback
809
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:07:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ?
Yes legs het rid of the one stat that is the best determination of skill we have......makes sense. Dont want all the 1.5 kdr noobs to feel bad that they cant keep up with the 6 kdr or higher players...... |
demonkiller 12
G.U.T.Z
Covert Intervention
152
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:07:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:name 1 FPS online game without K/D ratio and kills stats
DUH CALL OF DUTY |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
978
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:07:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ? Lol yeah right. I laugh whenever my team on ambush gets decimated. I'll go 17-2 but come in third place on my team to two dudes going 3-15. WP farming is not a reliable indicator of how effective you are at what you are doing. Reviving 2 guys only for all three of you to get destroyed in the next 10 seconds.
Supplying ammo to people who still have 3 magazines worth of ammo left (and will probably get killed in the next 10 seconds).
Rather than taking out a gun and killing the enemy, you take out a repair tool at the worst time and farm war points until the enemy kills all of you in the next 10 seconds.
WP rewards are arbitrary and are dependent on what CCP decides what they are worth. KDR is the only hard, reliable data that gives a good indicator of survivability and killing efficiency. KDR isn't perfect, and it doesn't paint the whole picture, but I will trust someone who has a 8.71 KDR and 100,000 WP over someone who has a 1.12 KDR and 1,000,000 WP.
I Died 14 times yesterday with my AV commando suit, i got only 5 kills... but I killed 2 tanks and 4 LAV's... I saved the life of LOTS of my team mates, and provably chanced the full battle by doing that... You saying ? |
Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
230
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:07:00 -
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in pc individual clones cost about 150k each and thats not counting the gear that u have to fit to the clone, so stats like kdr matter quite a bit in that area, in public matches kdr is not as important but it can be a decent guage to how well u may do in such an arena so its a necessary stat and there fore has no reson to be removed.
there are also corporate krd and w/l stats that help you size up your competition or possible targets and all those corporate stats are gathered from....... the individual members service to their corporation, so...... |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
268
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:09:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:name 1 FPS online game without K/D ratio and kills stats DUH CALL OF DUTY
so u want dust514 to become CoD?
why not just play CoD , besides there are no LAVs there to roadkill you or sniping tanks
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Rynoceros
Rise of Old Dudes
606
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:10:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:name 1 FPS online game without K/D ratio and kills stats
Name another one with known broken stat trackers.
ISK used/WP gained/ per Death gives much more reliable stats about a merc's productivity than KDR.
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
978
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:18:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Protocake JR wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ? Lol yeah right. I laugh whenever my team on ambush gets decimated. I'll go 17-2 but come in third place on my team to two dudes going 3-15. WP farming is not a reliable indicator of how effective you are at what you are doing. Reviving 2 guys only for all three of you to get destroyed in the next 10 seconds.
Supplying ammo to people who still have 3 magazines worth of ammo left (and will probably get killed in the next 10 seconds).
Rather than taking out a gun and killing the enemy, you take out a repair tool at the worst time and farm war points until the enemy kills all of you in the next 10 seconds.
WP rewards are arbitrary and are dependent on what CCP decides what they are worth. KDR is the only hard, reliable data that gives a good indicator of survivability and killing efficiency. KDR isn't perfect, and it doesn't paint the whole picture, but I will trust someone who has a 8.71 KDR and 100,000 WP over someone who has a 1.12 KDR and 1,000,000 WP. I Died 14 times yesterday with my AV commando suit, i got only 5 kills... but I killed 2 tanks and 4 LAV's... I saved the life of LOTS of my team mates, and provably changed the full battle by doing that... You saying ?
Well ? ... no one wants to comment about this ^ ? ...Stats Whores benefits from people like me... that cares about helping its team.. not stupid stats. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
268
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:21:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Protocake JR wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ? Lol yeah right. I laugh whenever my team on ambush gets decimated. I'll go 17-2 but come in third place on my team to two dudes going 3-15. WP farming is not a reliable indicator of how effective you are at what you are doing. Reviving 2 guys only for all three of you to get destroyed in the next 10 seconds.
Supplying ammo to people who still have 3 magazines worth of ammo left (and will probably get killed in the next 10 seconds).
Rather than taking out a gun and killing the enemy, you take out a repair tool at the worst time and farm war points until the enemy kills all of you in the next 10 seconds.
WP rewards are arbitrary and are dependent on what CCP decides what they are worth. KDR is the only hard, reliable data that gives a good indicator of survivability and killing efficiency. KDR isn't perfect, and it doesn't paint the whole picture, but I will trust someone who has a 8.71 KDR and 100,000 WP over someone who has a 1.12 KDR and 1,000,000 WP. I Died 14 times yesterday with my AV commando suit, i got only 5 kills... but I killed 2 tanks and 4 LAV's... I saved the life of LOTS of my team mates, and provably changed the full battle by doing that... You saying ? Well ? ... no one wants to comment about this ^ ...Stats Whores benefits from people like me... that cares about helping its team.. not stupid stats.
you say you dont care aboot stats , then why make this thread?
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
231
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:23:00 -
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lol ur stats let us know how stupid you are |
Protocake JR
Ancient Exiles
600
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:24:00 -
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@panther beta
Congrats on your great game. But I am sure that there are other people who will not had to of died 14 times just to kill two STD tanks and some lollavs.
Keep trying. |
Ryme Intrinseca
Seraphim Auxiliaries
0
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:26:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ?
Problems:
1) Removes a useful tool for recruitment. Good corps will try to run with potential recruits before letting them in, and you're wasting everyone's time if they have to do this with assaults/heavies with very low KDRs rather than just filtering them out.
2) Removes a useful tool for character development. I look at my KDR every so often so I know how I'd doing, and the game would lose something for me if I didn't know if I was getting better or not in my role (heavy).
3) Emphasising win/loss stats is even more biased towards those who stomp in proto squads than solo players/players who squad with less experienced players. I think my KDR is slightly higher when I protostomp, but my WLR is way higher then.
No one makes you pay attention to KDR. Just ignore it if you don't like it. |
TheD1CK
Dead Man's Game
12
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:26:00 -
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The best idea I have heard regarding this would be to include a weekly leaderboard displaying
K/DR, W/LR
this way we can track the most active players in a week and would also give the opportunity for players to reach the leaderboards regardless of their accumulated SP
CCP ! this makes sense ! try it out !!!
plus 13ear has been up their way too long and he doesn't deserve it due to the fact that he fights for his stats not for the team,
I was in a battle not so long ago, a squad of my corp v the usual PROstompers, we fought it out all died quite a bit but we fought for it 13ear on the other hand left the battle the second he realised the odds were against him,
GET GOOD SCRUB! |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
978
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:27:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Protocake JR wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ? Lol yeah right. I laugh whenever my team on ambush gets decimated. I'll go 17-2 but come in third place on my team to two dudes going 3-15. WP farming is not a reliable indicator of how effective you are at what you are doing. Reviving 2 guys only for all three of you to get destroyed in the next 10 seconds.
Supplying ammo to people who still have 3 magazines worth of ammo left (and will probably get killed in the next 10 seconds).
Rather than taking out a gun and killing the enemy, you take out a repair tool at the worst time and farm war points until the enemy kills all of you in the next 10 seconds.
WP rewards are arbitrary and are dependent on what CCP decides what they are worth. KDR is the only hard, reliable data that gives a good indicator of survivability and killing efficiency. KDR isn't perfect, and it doesn't paint the whole picture, but I will trust someone who has a 8.71 KDR and 100,000 WP over someone who has a 1.12 KDR and 1,000,000 WP. I Died 14 times yesterday with my AV commando suit, i got only 5 kills... but I killed 2 tanks and 4 LAV's... I saved the life of LOTS of my team mates, and provably changed the full battle by doing that... You saying ? Well ? ... no one wants to comment about this ^ ...Stats Whores benefits from people like me... that cares about helping its team.. not stupid stats. you say you dont care aboot stats , then why make this thread?
Because K/D ratio and kills count is making people Stats Whores ...and most people don't realize that is the Logis, AV specialist, Pilots ... and so on, that i helping them to get all that stats. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
269
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:31:00 -
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stats whores are everywhere , its not something you can defeat , its in human nature to compare with others and strive to be the best , you are not forced to do it if you dont like it or feel like it , simple
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar
Silver Bullet Solutions
DARKSTAR ARMY
231
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:31:00 -
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CHARACTER PROGRESSION |
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