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Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:28:00 -
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We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Lost stats. Yes ? |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:33:00 -
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richiesutie 2 wrote:ISK per kill. ISK per death.
yeah.. that ^ too. |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:41:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:name 1 FPS online game without K/D ratio and kills stats
Name 1 FPS game with an active economy ( ISK ), where you have to buy equipment every battle, where War Points is more important than kills, and wining or losing a battle give you better ISK rewards....ohh... and Team Work is more important that individual stats. |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:47:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:name 1 FPS online game without K/D ratio and kills stats Name 1 FPS game with an active economy ( ISK ), where you have to buy equipment every battle, where War Points is more important than kills, and wining or losing a battle give you better ISK rewards....ohh... and Team Work is more important that individual stats. its not polite to answer a question with another question even if you try to dodge the ownage you first
I did answer you question ... Dust 514 is NOT a normal FPS. |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.08.31 11:58:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:i think we need more stats rather than less, and if the economy and teamwork are your only reasons for wanting kdr and what the heck ever removed im goin to say ur logic is not logical. he must have rage quit some match and come to rage here
I don't even playing yet ... And if you check my stats, you'll see that i will be losing allot by suggesting what i suggesting ..I'm not exactly a NooB.. you know. |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:07:00 -
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Protocake JR wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ? Lol yeah right. I laugh whenever my team on ambush gets decimated. I'll go 17-2 but come in third place on my team to two dudes going 3-15. WP farming is not a reliable indicator of how effective you are at what you are doing. Reviving 2 guys only for all three of you to get destroyed in the next 10 seconds. Supplying ammo to people who still have 3 magazines worth of ammo left (and will probably get killed in the next 10 seconds). Rather than taking out a gun and killing the enemy, you take out a repair tool at the worst time and farm war points until the enemy kills all of you in the next 10 seconds.
WP rewards are arbitrary and are dependent on what CCP decides what they are worth. KDR is the only hard, reliable data that gives a good indicator of survivability and killing efficiency. KDR isn't perfect, and it doesn't paint the whole picture, but I will trust someone who has a 8.71 KDR and 100,000 WP over someone who has a 1.12 KDR and 1,000,000 WP.
I Died 14 times yesterday with my AV commando suit, i got only 5 kills... but I killed 2 tanks and 4 LAV's... I saved the life of LOTS of my team mates, and provably chanced the full battle by doing that... You saying ? |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:18:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Protocake JR wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ? Lol yeah right. I laugh whenever my team on ambush gets decimated. I'll go 17-2 but come in third place on my team to two dudes going 3-15. WP farming is not a reliable indicator of how effective you are at what you are doing. Reviving 2 guys only for all three of you to get destroyed in the next 10 seconds. Supplying ammo to people who still have 3 magazines worth of ammo left (and will probably get killed in the next 10 seconds). Rather than taking out a gun and killing the enemy, you take out a repair tool at the worst time and farm war points until the enemy kills all of you in the next 10 seconds.
WP rewards are arbitrary and are dependent on what CCP decides what they are worth. KDR is the only hard, reliable data that gives a good indicator of survivability and killing efficiency. KDR isn't perfect, and it doesn't paint the whole picture, but I will trust someone who has a 8.71 KDR and 100,000 WP over someone who has a 1.12 KDR and 1,000,000 WP. I Died 14 times yesterday with my AV commando suit, i got only 5 kills... but I killed 2 tanks and 4 LAV's... I saved the life of LOTS of my team mates, and provably changed the full battle by doing that... You saying ?
Well ? ... no one wants to comment about this ^ ? ...Stats Whores benefits from people like me... that cares about helping its team.. not stupid stats. |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:27:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Protocake JR wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:We will be so much better off without them... lets just have WP stats and Win / Loss stats. Yes ? Lol yeah right. I laugh whenever my team on ambush gets decimated. I'll go 17-2 but come in third place on my team to two dudes going 3-15. WP farming is not a reliable indicator of how effective you are at what you are doing. Reviving 2 guys only for all three of you to get destroyed in the next 10 seconds. Supplying ammo to people who still have 3 magazines worth of ammo left (and will probably get killed in the next 10 seconds). Rather than taking out a gun and killing the enemy, you take out a repair tool at the worst time and farm war points until the enemy kills all of you in the next 10 seconds.
WP rewards are arbitrary and are dependent on what CCP decides what they are worth. KDR is the only hard, reliable data that gives a good indicator of survivability and killing efficiency. KDR isn't perfect, and it doesn't paint the whole picture, but I will trust someone who has a 8.71 KDR and 100,000 WP over someone who has a 1.12 KDR and 1,000,000 WP. I Died 14 times yesterday with my AV commando suit, i got only 5 kills... but I killed 2 tanks and 4 LAV's... I saved the life of LOTS of my team mates, and provably changed the full battle by doing that... You saying ? Well ? ... no one wants to comment about this ^ ...Stats Whores benefits from people like me... that cares about helping its team.. not stupid stats. you say you dont care aboot stats , then why make this thread?
Because K/D ratio and kills count is making people Stats Whores ...and most people don't realize that is the Logis, AV specialist, Pilots ... and so on, that i helping them to get all that stats. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:36:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:K/D IS THIS GAME IS A JOKE. 45 kdr? LOL See the whole gear based system corrupts it.
The kdr that I have seen.. you'll NEVER SEE IN ANOTHER FPS. 64kdr? GET OUT OF HERE WITH THAT ****!. LOL
BUT IT IS STILL THE ONLY INDICATOR THAT SOMEONE IS ABLE TO STAY ALIVE. AND THAT ITS MORE IMPORTANT THAN HOW MANY KILLS HE GOT. .25 kdr WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS 2.25 kdr.
So how a Sniper contributes to the Battle ? .... I could snipe for a couple of weeks, and get my K/D ratio up very easily ...some times i think that the average age of Dust 514 players is about 10 years old. |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.08.31 12:51:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:Surt gods end wrote:K/D IS THIS GAME IS A JOKE. 45 kdr? LOL See the whole gear based system corrupts it.
The kdr that I have seen.. you'll NEVER SEE IN ANOTHER FPS. 64kdr? GET OUT OF HERE WITH THAT ****!. LOL
BUT IT IS STILL THE ONLY INDICATOR THAT SOMEONE IS ABLE TO STAY ALIVE. AND THAT ITS MORE IMPORTANT THAN HOW MANY KILLS HE GOT. .25 kdr WILL NEVER BE AS GOOD AS 2.25 kdr.
So how a Sniper contributes to the Battle ? .... I could snipe for a couple of weeks, and get my K/D ratio up very easily ...some times i think that the average age of Dust 514 players is about 10 years old. I could get on snipers case. But snipers do what snipers do in anyother FPS game. it's thier job. But good snipers cover the objective. BUT THEY OBVIOUSLY DON'T DIE. AND THAT WILL BE ALWAYS BE A GOOD THING. dead snipers make poor snipers. You expect that from that class. they aren't in front lines. But I"LL SAY THIS, A LIVING SNIPER COVER OBJECTIVES IS BETTER THAN A DEAD BLUE DOING NOTHING CAUSE HE DIED FOR THE 400th TIME.
I make a Sport of hunting snipers ...they are the easiest kill... they just sit there, waiting to pick the easy kill. Their contribution to the battle is nearly ZERO...But a Logi that Dies repairing my suit....That sacrifice itself so i can live a bit longer... I love that guys... their contribution is HUGE. |
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2013.08.31 13:03:00 -
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Surt gods end wrote:N ALL FPS GAME 1.00 KDR doesn't mean you suck. doesn't mean your mowing down the enemy either. but it shows your staying alive just long enough to kill someone. and that is good.
in this game.. I've seen 26kdr. how? and that player I've faced in BF3. and his kdr there was 1k/d. SO HOW?! lol
"Stats *****" ...Because Dust 514 have so many Dropsuit variations... and so many possible approaches to game-play styles, it means that people can set a Class specially designed for "Stats Whoring"... which is why i strongly believe that K/D ratio and kills stats have not place in a game like Dust 514. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2013.08.31 13:39:00 -
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ReGnYuM wrote:lol at thread
OP I am sorry no decent corp will recruit/ field you because your KDR is bad
I will not join any corp that base their recruitment in K/D ratio .... That to me immediately tells me what type of Corp it is;
Stats Whoring Corp ( AKA Pubstomping Corp )
I rather be a one man corp, than join a Corp where Stats are more important than Team Work. |
Panther Alpha
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Posted - 2013.08.31 14:01:00 -
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George Moros wrote:Panther Alpha wrote: I make a Sport of hunting snipers ...they are the easiest kill... they just sit there, waiting to pick the easy kill. Their contribution to the battle is nearly ZERO...But a Logi that Dies repairing my suit....That sacrifice itself so i can live a bit longer... I love that guys... their contribution is HUGE.
LOL, what a silly argument. So, snipers are the easiest kills because they "just sit there"? You see, the problem is that you first have to figure out where "there" actually is. And while you're doing that little hunt of yours, that guy who's "just sitting there" is killing your team mates one by one (if he's any good). Personally, I find those people who call themselves "sniper hunters" (usually scouts with shotguns), the most useless and least contributing people in battles. Sure, I get killed by them from time to time (although 4/5 times I get killed, it's by another sniper), and yes, I usually don't notice them coming, which makes me a ridiculously easy kill. But since they probably spent several minutes just looking for me, while I was killing their friends who are actually trying to win the battle, I know that my time spent in that battle was certainly better spent than theirs. Furthermore, saying that a sniper who just did 20/0 in a battle has contributed zero to their team is plain nonsense. Sure, there are bad, and there are good snipers. There are also those who are more concerned with their K/D rather than helping their team. But, can't you say the same for every other role in this game?
And how many battles are won by depleting the other teams clone supplies ? 1 of every 100 ? Most battles are won by destroying the enemy Command Center... By hunting snipers i free hacking terminals, i allowing my team to take over that cannon..and by doing that helping to destroy the Command Center. I agree i wasting time doing that.. but i helping my team allot by killing snipers farming kills in Hacking Terminals. |
Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
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Posted - 2013.08.31 14:46:00 -
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Alabastor 'TheBlaster' Alcar wrote:op ur a dumb@$$
if dust had astat for intelligence urs would be 0
What is "Astat "? ...Adult Short-Term Assessment ? ....sometimes i find you guys very confusing... |
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