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negative49er
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.30 00:55:00 -
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it not an assault rifle |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
102
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Posted - 2013.08.30 00:57:00 -
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It's not an assault rifle but what you mean is its being used on infantry instead on vehicles. |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
286
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:04:00 -
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Isn't it supposed to be used on infantry? I love it. My heavy has 2 million SP and as long as he has an Assault FG I feel like I have 10 million lol. Even if the damage was halved I would still use it. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
474
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:08:00 -
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You don't say?
This is news from past month dude. Did you miss my assault FG QQ threads?
-XOXO |
martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
312
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:09:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:You don't say? This is news from past month dude. Did you miss my assault FG QQ threads? -XOXO
Well, I guess until they changes, it will still be a up to date subject isn't it? New or old. |
Big miku
Nation of Miku
281
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:13:00 -
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Lol, yet another nerd stands still for a second and gets wrecked. I bet you was just minding yo bidness lining up a sweet head shot on some scrub when *BAM*, you get blasted like the twin towers.
Keep dat booty moving next time girlfriend or you might get poked with some 7000m/s love if ya know what i be sayn |
CHIKANO BMXer
Northwind Alliance Dark Taboo
15
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:15:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Lol, yet another nerd stands still for a second and gets wrecked. I bet you was just minding yo bidness lining up a sweet head shot on some scrub when *BAM*, you get blasted like the twin towers.
Keep dat booty moving next time girlfriend or you might get poked with some 7000m/s love if ya know what i be sayn wow a twin towers use age not very appropriat man i mean lots of ppl died in that |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
691
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:15:00 -
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negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
It too good at any range even close quarter that splash damage do all the work
And thats the problem isnt it? You are getting killed by something that is not an AR....
PLUS its NOT good at CQ.If you are getting killed by it at CQ you are just standing still....
Anyways you are late broski, this is old news |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1211
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:21:00 -
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its easy to go get 15-20 kills a match with assault forge gun. Even if you don't get the high ground. And it's not like people are using vehicles much anymore, thats all infantry kills :X |
Big miku
Nation of Miku
281
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:30:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:its easy to go get 15-20 kills a match with assault forge gun. Even if you don't get the high ground.
Let me see you do this 5 times in a row with under 3 deaths.
Protip: You can't
Meanwhile top tier AR slayer Death Machines can and do go 15+ with less than 3 deaths all the times. I've played with guys who did not die once in 10+ games.
Errybody likes to say FG is easy mode, but they never try it out in a competitive environment. |
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ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1322
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:32:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:its easy to go get 15-20 kills a match with assault forge gun. Even if you don't get the high ground. Let me see you do this 5 times in a row with under 3 deaths. Protip: You can't Meanwhile top tier AR slayer Death Machines can and do go 15+ with less than 3 deaths all the times. I've played with guys who did not die once in 10+ games. Errybody likes to say FG is easy mode, but they never try it out in a competitive environment. can and have. the Assault forge is just abused to be something its not. |
Big miku
Nation of Miku
281
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:35:00 -
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ladwar wrote:can and have.
Sure you have nerd masheen, sure you have, do it again and post some unedited time stamped footage.
Lol the assault FG is doing its job, it is assaulting things. |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
80
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:35:00 -
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One of my corp buddies went 32-0 with a pro to assault forge gun.
But, to be fair, he was on one of the super tall towers, and he was protecting me from 16 enemies. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
475
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:43:00 -
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Big miku wrote:ladwar wrote:can and have. Sure you have nerd masheen, sure you have, do it again and post some unedited time stamped footage. Lol the assault FG is doing its job, it is assaulting things.
You do it all the time. I've seen you. It's your precious toy, of course you're going to defend it saying it's fine when it's obviously OP.
-XOXO
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Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
286
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:45:00 -
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More OP than Mass Drivers. Yup. |
Big miku
Nation of Miku
281
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:46:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:You do it all the time. I've seen you. It's your precious toy, of course you're going to defend it saying it's fine when it's obviously OP.
but dats wrong, I never get more than 5 kills a game and most of those are teamkills.
git gud scrublord omniscient master of the all cosmos, creator and ender of everything great Vishnu |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
579
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:49:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:One of my corp buddies went 32-0 with a pro to assault forge gun.
But, to be fair, he was on one of the super tall towers, and he was protecting me from 16 enemies. My CEO went 58/8 with a Duvolle AR on the front line. So what's your point |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
81
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:53:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Patrick57 wrote:One of my corp buddies went 32-0 with a pro to assault forge gun.
But, to be fair, he was on one of the super tall towers, and he was protecting me from 16 enemies. My CEO went 58/8 with a Duvolle AR on the front line. So what's your point Hey bro you don't want to start this "I can top whatever you say" thing. I was just relating my own experiences with the thread topic. |
ladwar
Dead Six Initiative Lokun Listamenn
1323
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:55:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Patrick57 wrote:One of my corp buddies went 32-0 with a pro to assault forge gun.
But, to be fair, he was on one of the super tall towers, and he was protecting me from 16 enemies. My CEO went 58/8 with a Duvolle AR on the front line. So what's your point jennzapants went 108/0 with missile tank while drunk in an ambush so whats your point. |
crazy space 1
Unkn0wn Killers
1591
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:56:00 -
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yeah... and? |
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Big miku
Nation of Miku
282
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:56:00 -
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Patrick57 wrote:One of my corp buddies went 32-0 with a pro to assault forge gun.
I've went 43 and OH on a tower too, now do that in a PC match then we have an issue. Forge guns do not two shot tanked suits that are the most common in PC.
Against a shield tanked proto suit it takes 2 splash hits to just pop his shields |
Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
81
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:56:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Patrick57 wrote:One of my corp buddies went 32-0 with a pro to assault forge gun.
But, to be fair, he was on one of the super tall towers, and he was protecting me from 16 enemies. My CEO went 58/8 with a Duvolle AR on the front line. So what's your point jennzapants went 108/0 with missile tank while drunk in an ambush so whats your point. HAHAHA it's funny because it's NOT POSSIBLE! |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:57:00 -
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Big miku wrote:ladwar wrote:can and have. Sure you have nerd masheen, sure you have, do it again and post some unedited time stamped footage. Lol the assault FG is doing its job, it is assaulting things.
If there's one thing I've learned it's that 12 year old kids are both prone to ~ defending their OP toys, ~ and quickly devolving into name calling to those ends. |
Big miku
Nation of Miku
282
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:58:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:If there's one thing I've learned it's that 12 year old kids are both prone to ~ defending their OP toys, ~ and quickly devolving into name calling to those ends.
That's not cool man, my mom died that way. |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1213
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Posted - 2013.08.30 02:04:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:If there's one thing I've learned it's that 12 year old kids are both prone to ~ defending their OP toys, ~ and quickly devolving into name calling to those ends. That's not cool man, my mom died that way.
You're on a roll. Joking about 911 twin towers, your 'dead' mom and calling everyone who disagrees with you a nerd.
You really would serve your purposes better to just stop talking. |
Big miku
Nation of Miku
283
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Posted - 2013.08.30 02:07:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:You really would serve your purposes better to just stop talking.
Whoa dude, how did you know I talk to my computer. |
Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
50
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Posted - 2013.08.30 02:14:00 -
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I can not wait for an AR nerf...I think I'm going to organize a Nerf AR QQ brigade. |
Ace Starburst
PiZzA DuDeS
15
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Posted - 2013.08.30 02:15:00 -
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I only use the Assault Forge gun to melee with. |
Anmol Singh
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
324
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Posted - 2013.08.30 02:28:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:It's not an assault rifle but what you mean is its being used on infantry instead on vehicles.
Tank god, aint nobody wanna go up against the OP... |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
289
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Posted - 2013.08.30 02:33:00 -
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I went 12-0 with a laser rifle this one time when I was a passenger in a tank. |
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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
84
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Posted - 2013.08.30 02:36:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:I went 12-0 with a laser rifle this one time when I was a passenger in a tank. Now that, good sir, is a real achievement. I applaud you. |
Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
504
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Posted - 2013.08.30 03:13:00 -
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Anything with splash damage is supposed to have relatively low damage or very low RoF. The assault is equally effective against both vehicles and infantry. |
Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
25
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Posted - 2013.08.30 07:28:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:its easy to go get 15-20 kills a match with assault forge gun. Even if you don't get the high ground. Let me see you do this 5 times in a row with under 3 deaths. Protip: You can't Meanwhile top tier AR slayer Death Machines can and do go 15+ with less than 3 deaths all the times. I've played with guys who did not die once in 10+ games. Errybody likes to say FG is easy mode, but they never try it out in a competitive environment. I did that once... 21-2. With a MLT Forge Gun In CQC. |
SAMPSON YOLO
TeamPlayers EoN.
5
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Posted - 2013.08.30 08:11:00 -
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Jesus the tears. Leave the forge alone. People are learning to use it effectively, its time for you to learn how to play against them now.
Dont stand still & Dont engage a forge gunner without cover.
How to kill a forge? Sniper or Another forge. You know a MLT forge will still one hit a Heavy. |
ovary obliterator
Shadows United
23
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Posted - 2013.08.30 08:44:00 -
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2 assault forges completely denies all vehicle presence on most maps... plus can nail infantry while tanks and ds's are hiding... if your only hard counter is other units like you or snipers... something is a bit broken id say.
nerf forge 514, or reassign its role already... you know its bad when even most lf the good forge users agree |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1227
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Posted - 2013.08.30 08:55:00 -
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ovary obliterator wrote:2 assault forges completely denies all vehicle presence on most maps... plus can nail infantry while tanks and ds's are hiding... if your only hard counter is other units like you or snipers... something is a bit broken id say.
nerf forge 514, or reassign its role already... you know its bad when even most lf the good forge users agree
100% true
Any team with 2 forges can expect vehicles to be null and infantry to get BLAP'd
It's kind of dumb |
Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative..
687
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Posted - 2013.08.30 10:43:00 -
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so you dislike the assault forge guns? even though we have to time our shots just right, other than the forges that do more damage hold the charge and take their time to focus their aim on you.
so with 4 rounds and 2.5 seconds charge time that means i can kill 4 guys every 10 seconds. i think other weapons can do better than that. |
Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1397
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:02:00 -
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negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
That's right, it isn't.
Deal with it. |
Heavy Breaks
Red Star. EoN.
237
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:05:00 -
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Big Popa Smurff wrote:so you dislike the assault forge guns? even though we have to time our shots just right, other than the forges that do more damage hold the charge and take their time to focus their aim on you.
so with 4 rounds and 2.5 seconds charge time that means i can kill 4 guys every 10 seconds. i think other weapons can do better than that.
You're forgetting with any sort of hit detection / lag / FPS drop 90% of direct hit fail to OHK infantry and barely apply the correct splash dmg.
So yeah in a perfect game AFG is pretty damn effective, unfortunately dust isn't perfect.
That is all.
/thread. |
Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
175
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:32:00 -
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negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
It too good at any range even close quarter that splash damage do all the work
The LLAV isn't an assault rifle and it's being abused too much.
The MD isn't an assault rifle and it's being abused too much.
Grenades aren't an assault rifle and they're being abused too much.
You're not an assault rifle and you're abused wayyyyyyyy too much... by the FG
I can almost apply your argument to any other thing in this game. |
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CrotchGrab 360
High-Damage
220
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:35:00 -
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negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
It too good at any range even close quarter that splash damage do all the work
I had one guy do 1300 damage to me at 129m. seems legit! working as intended right?! |
DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1164
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:38:00 -
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negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
It too good at any range even close quarter that splash damage do all the work
Try using it exclusively solo in ambush for 7 days, then you might change your tune.
With the amount of latency in each match and the small splash radius of the forge, a player can easily get out of splash damage range in a split-second if they just move a little bit. The forge is really only effective as a direct-shot weapon, which is almost pure luck. Just tonight alone I cannot even count how many times I landed a shot right next to a red-dot which dealt absolutely no damage whatsoever.
Snipers > Forge gunners AR's (and most every other weapon) > Forge gunners in medium to CQC unless the forger gunner gets a VERY lucky shot
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Victor889
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
11
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:39:00 -
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There's nothing wrong with any of the Forge guns, they are the one thing that was made perfect in this game, they need nothing, no nerfs, no buffs, nothing.
It's hard enough being a heavy without taking away 50% of his weapons.. |
Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1229
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:39:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
It too good at any range even close quarter that splash damage do all the work Try using it exclusively solo in ambush for 7 days, then you might change your tune. With the amount of latency in each match and the small splash radius of the forge, a player can easily get out of splash damage range in a split-second if they just move a little bit. The forge is really only effective as a direct-shot weapon, which is almost pure luck. Just tonight alone I cannot even count how many times I landed a shot right next to a red-dot which dealt absolutely no damage whatsoever. Snipers > Forge gunners AR's (and most every other weapon) > Forge gunners in medium to CQC unless the forger gunner gets a VERY lucky shot
small splash range? ...
Are we playing the same game?
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
261
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:10:00 -
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nerf it naw |
Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
248
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:17:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Lol, yet another nerd stands still for a second and gets wrecked. I bet you was just minding yo bidness lining up a sweet head shot on some scrub when *BAM*, you get blasted like the twin towers.
Keep dat booty moving next time girlfriend or you might get poked with some 7000m/s love if ya know what i be sayn
In other news, someones never heard of LEADING. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
192
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:53:00 -
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Sniper, assault and infantry is not something that should be used in the same name, sentence or concept with such a device as a forge gun.
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Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:06:00 -
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ovary obliterator wrote:2 assault forges completely denies all vehicle presence on most maps... plus can nail infantry while tanks and ds's are hiding... if your only hard counter is other units like you or snipers... something is a bit broken id say.
nerf forge 514, or reassign its role already... you know its bad when even most lf the good forge users agree
I'm guessing you use an AR then... |
CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
96
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:10:00 -
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FG is OP tears and QQing will be littering the forums even more than now when 1.4 hits and the fatties get their buff. |
Keri Starlight
Psygod9
166
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:10:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:It's not an assault rifle but what you mean is its being used on infantry instead on vehicles.
It's being used on anything and it will definitely blow up anything. |
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Charlotte O'Dell
0uter.Heaven
1247
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:10:00 -
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Htfu. Tankers have been complaining forever and all we were told was htfu |
The Attorney General
ZionTCD
811
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:13:00 -
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Forge gun splash radius needs to come down. Splash damage is probably too high as well. 381 with 2x complex damage mods at prof 5 is a bit steep. 350 with the DAU is also too high.
Leave the direct damage, as 2200 is a good spot for the proto.
Buff dropships. |
CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
224
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:25:00 -
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CHIKANO BMXer wrote:Big miku wrote:Lol, yet another nerd stands still for a second and gets wrecked. I bet you was just minding yo bidness lining up a sweet head shot on some scrub when *BAM*, you get blasted like the twin towers.
Keep dat booty moving next time girlfriend or you might get poked with some 7000m/s love if ya know what i be sayn wow a twin towers use age not very appropriat man i mean America died in that
Fixed that for you ^ |
Powerh8er
DIOS EX. Top Men.
53
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:35:00 -
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Most assault rifles kills me in faster than i can charge the assault forge i CQC.
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BatKing Deltor
Granite Mercenary Division
168
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:53:00 -
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Big miku wrote: you get blasted like the twin towers.
Ok, your defending your precious forge gun, but have some respect and dont trash or smack talk a real event where thousands were murdered that day. 9/11/2001. god bless their souls. R.I.P. |
Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
133
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:06:00 -
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-1000 @ big miku, i hope people remember what you said. I was in 3rd grade when that happened, it was during recess and we spent it all hiding under desks. Go **** yourself insensitive ******* |
Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
178
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:22:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:its easy to go get 15-20 kills a match with assault forge gun. Even if you don't get the high ground. Let me see you do this 5 times in a row with under 3 deaths. Protip: You can't Meanwhile top tier AR slayer Death Machines can and do go 15+ with less than 3 deaths all the times. I've played with guys who did not die once in 10+ games. Errybody likes to say FG is easy mode, but they never try it out in a competitive environment. i agree against people who know what they are doing using the forge vs infantry requires skill |
Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
523
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:31:00 -
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Forge Gun is fine. AR is fine. Mass Driver is fine.
Shotgun is UP. Laser is UP. Plasma Cannon is UP.
Guns that are fine are easy mode. Guns that are UP are hard mode.
Scrubs use Forge Gun, AR, and Mass Driver to go 30/0. Pros use Shotgun, Laser, and Plasma Cannon to go 30/0.
I am a scrub. Everyone else posting in this thread is a scrub as well. There are plenty of scrubby weapons in DUST right now, but the last overpowered weapon we had was Flaylock. The balance is honestly pretty good these days... |
Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
298
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:32:00 -
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Lower damage across the board, not that it would matter against infantry. Hell, I would even take less splash damage/radius for a little more range. |
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