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Patrick57
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
84
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Posted - 2013.08.30 02:36:00 -
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Robocop Junior wrote:I went 12-0 with a laser rifle this one time when I was a passenger in a tank. Now that, good sir, is a real achievement. I applaud you. |

Xender17
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
504
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Posted - 2013.08.30 03:13:00 -
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Anything with splash damage is supposed to have relatively low damage or very low RoF. The assault is equally effective against both vehicles and infantry. |

Fizzer94
L.O.T.I.S.
25
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Posted - 2013.08.30 07:28:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:its easy to go get 15-20 kills a match with assault forge gun. Even if you don't get the high ground. Let me see you do this 5 times in a row with under 3 deaths. Protip: You can't Meanwhile top tier AR slayer Death Machines can and do go 15+ with less than 3 deaths all the times. I've played with guys who did not die once in 10+ games. Errybody likes to say FG is easy mode, but they never try it out in a competitive environment. I did that once... 21-2. With a MLT Forge Gun In CQC. |

SAMPSON YOLO
TeamPlayers EoN.
5
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Posted - 2013.08.30 08:11:00 -
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Jesus the tears. Leave the forge alone. People are learning to use it effectively, its time for you to learn how to play against them now.
Dont stand still & Dont engage a forge gunner without cover.
How to kill a forge? Sniper or Another forge. You know a MLT forge will still one hit a Heavy. |

ovary obliterator
Shadows United
23
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Posted - 2013.08.30 08:44:00 -
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2 assault forges completely denies all vehicle presence on most maps... plus can nail infantry while tanks and ds's are hiding... if your only hard counter is other units like you or snipers... something is a bit broken id say.
nerf forge 514, or reassign its role already... you know its bad when even most lf the good forge users agree |

Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1227
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Posted - 2013.08.30 08:55:00 -
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ovary obliterator wrote:2 assault forges completely denies all vehicle presence on most maps... plus can nail infantry while tanks and ds's are hiding... if your only hard counter is other units like you or snipers... something is a bit broken id say.
nerf forge 514, or reassign its role already... you know its bad when even most lf the good forge users agree
100% true
Any team with 2 forges can expect vehicles to be null and infantry to get BLAP'd
It's kind of dumb |

Big Popa Smurff
Seraphim Initiative..
687
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Posted - 2013.08.30 10:43:00 -
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so you dislike the assault forge guns? even though we have to time our shots just right, other than the forges that do more damage hold the charge and take their time to focus their aim on you.
so with 4 rounds and 2.5 seconds charge time that means i can kill 4 guys every 10 seconds. i think other weapons can do better than that. |

Himiko Kuronaga
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1397
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:02:00 -
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negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
That's right, it isn't.
Deal with it. |

Heavy Breaks
Red Star. EoN.
237
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:05:00 -
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Big Popa Smurff wrote:so you dislike the assault forge guns? even though we have to time our shots just right, other than the forges that do more damage hold the charge and take their time to focus their aim on you.
so with 4 rounds and 2.5 seconds charge time that means i can kill 4 guys every 10 seconds. i think other weapons can do better than that.
You're forgetting with any sort of hit detection / lag / FPS drop 90% of direct hit fail to OHK infantry and barely apply the correct splash dmg.
So yeah in a perfect game AFG is pretty damn effective, unfortunately dust isn't perfect.
That is all.
/thread. |

Interplanetary Insanitarium
Fraternity of St. Venefice Amarr Empire
175
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:32:00 -
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negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
It too good at any range even close quarter that splash damage do all the work
The LLAV isn't an assault rifle and it's being abused too much.
The MD isn't an assault rifle and it's being abused too much.
Grenades aren't an assault rifle and they're being abused too much.
You're not an assault rifle and you're abused wayyyyyyyy too much... by the FG 
I can almost apply your argument to any other thing in this game. |
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CrotchGrab 360
High-Damage
220
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:35:00 -
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negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
It too good at any range even close quarter that splash damage do all the work
I had one guy do 1300 damage to me at 129m. seems legit! working as intended right?! |

DJINN leukoplast
Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy
1164
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:38:00 -
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negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
It too good at any range even close quarter that splash damage do all the work
Try using it exclusively solo in ambush for 7 days, then you might change your tune.
With the amount of latency in each match and the small splash radius of the forge, a player can easily get out of splash damage range in a split-second if they just move a little bit. The forge is really only effective as a direct-shot weapon, which is almost pure luck. Just tonight alone I cannot even count how many times I landed a shot right next to a red-dot which dealt absolutely no damage whatsoever.
Snipers > Forge gunners AR's (and most every other weapon) > Forge gunners in medium to CQC unless the forger gunner gets a VERY lucky shot
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Victor889
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
11
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:39:00 -
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There's nothing wrong with any of the Forge guns, they are the one thing that was made perfect in this game, they need nothing, no nerfs, no buffs, nothing.
It's hard enough being a heavy without taking away 50% of his weapons.. |

Nguruthos IX
Vagina Bombers
1229
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Posted - 2013.08.30 11:39:00 -
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DJINN leukoplast wrote:negative49er wrote:it not an assault rifle
It too good at any range even close quarter that splash damage do all the work Try using it exclusively solo in ambush for 7 days, then you might change your tune. With the amount of latency in each match and the small splash radius of the forge, a player can easily get out of splash damage range in a split-second if they just move a little bit. The forge is really only effective as a direct-shot weapon, which is almost pure luck. Just tonight alone I cannot even count how many times I landed a shot right next to a red-dot which dealt absolutely no damage whatsoever. Snipers > Forge gunners AR's (and most every other weapon) > Forge gunners in medium to CQC unless the forger gunner gets a VERY lucky shot
small splash range? ...
Are we playing the same game?
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THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
261
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:10:00 -
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nerf it naw |

Zyrus Amalomyn
Militaires-Sans-Frontieres
248
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:17:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Lol, yet another nerd stands still for a second and gets wrecked. I bet you was just minding yo bidness lining up a sweet head shot on some scrub when *BAM*, you get blasted like the twin towers.
Keep dat booty moving next time girlfriend or you might get poked with some 7000m/s love if ya know what i be sayn
In other news, someones never heard of LEADING. |

Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order Amarr Empire
192
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Posted - 2013.08.30 12:53:00 -
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Sniper, assault and infantry is not something that should be used in the same name, sentence or concept with such a device as a forge gun.
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Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
54
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:06:00 -
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ovary obliterator wrote:2 assault forges completely denies all vehicle presence on most maps... plus can nail infantry while tanks and ds's are hiding... if your only hard counter is other units like you or snipers... something is a bit broken id say.
nerf forge 514, or reassign its role already... you know its bad when even most lf the good forge users agree
I'm guessing you use an AR then... |

CHIPMINT BUTTERCUP
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
96
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:10:00 -
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FG is OP tears and QQing will be littering the forums even more than now when 1.4 hits and the fatties get their buff. |

Keri Starlight
Psygod9
166
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Posted - 2013.08.30 17:10:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:It's not an assault rifle but what you mean is its being used on infantry instead on vehicles.
It's being used on anything and it will definitely blow up anything. |
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Charlotte O'Dell
0uter.Heaven
1247
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:10:00 -
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Htfu. Tankers have been complaining forever and all we were told was htfu |

The Attorney General
ZionTCD
811
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:13:00 -
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Forge gun splash radius needs to come down. Splash damage is probably too high as well. 381 with 2x complex damage mods at prof 5 is a bit steep. 350 with the DAU is also too high.
Leave the direct damage, as 2200 is a good spot for the proto.
Buff dropships. |

CommanderBolt
A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S.
224
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:25:00 -
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CHIKANO BMXer wrote:Big miku wrote:Lol, yet another nerd stands still for a second and gets wrecked. I bet you was just minding yo bidness lining up a sweet head shot on some scrub when *BAM*, you get blasted like the twin towers.
Keep dat booty moving next time girlfriend or you might get poked with some 7000m/s love if ya know what i be sayn wow a twin towers use age not very appropriat man i mean America died in that
Fixed that for you ^ |

Powerh8er
DIOS EX. Top Men.
53
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:35:00 -
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Most assault rifles kills me in faster than i can charge the assault forge i CQC.
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BatKing Deltor
Granite Mercenary Division
168
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:53:00 -
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Big miku wrote: you get blasted like the twin towers.
Ok, your defending your precious forge gun, but have some respect and dont trash or smack talk a real event where thousands were murdered that day. 9/11/2001. god bless their souls. R.I.P. |

Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
133
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:06:00 -
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-1000 @ big miku, i hope people remember what you said. I was in 3rd grade when that happened, it was during recess and we spent it all hiding under desks. Go **** yourself insensitive ******* |

Mortedeamor
The Black Masquerade
178
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:22:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:its easy to go get 15-20 kills a match with assault forge gun. Even if you don't get the high ground. Let me see you do this 5 times in a row with under 3 deaths. Protip: You can't Meanwhile top tier AR slayer Death Machines can and do go 15+ with less than 3 deaths all the times. I've played with guys who did not die once in 10+ games. Errybody likes to say FG is easy mode, but they never try it out in a competitive environment. i agree against people who know what they are doing using the forge vs infantry requires skill |

Disturbingly Bored
The Strontium Asylum
523
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:31:00 -
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Forge Gun is fine. AR is fine. Mass Driver is fine.
Shotgun is UP. Laser is UP. Plasma Cannon is UP.
Guns that are fine are easy mode. Guns that are UP are hard mode.
Scrubs use Forge Gun, AR, and Mass Driver to go 30/0. Pros use Shotgun, Laser, and Plasma Cannon to go 30/0.
I am a scrub. Everyone else posting in this thread is a scrub as well. There are plenty of scrubby weapons in DUST right now, but the last overpowered weapon we had was Flaylock. The balance is honestly pretty good these days... |

Robocop Junior
The Surrogates Of War
298
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Posted - 2013.08.30 19:32:00 -
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Lower damage across the board, not that it would matter against infantry. Hell, I would even take less splash damage/radius for a little more range. |
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