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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.30 00:34:00 -
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ok so im barely starting to be a scout been a heavy for a while and i just want speed and stealth i have a militia shotgun , smg gallente scout basic basic active scanner 2 militia cardiac regulators and a shield regulator
anyone want to help me with this suit i got about 500 sp right now ? i really dont want to be seen by anyone just friendly |
Crow Splat
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:03:00 -
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AFAIK, the only way to become "invisible" to scanners is to run proto Gallente Scout with 4 complex profile dampeners in the low slots. This takes your profile below the precision of the best active scanner available. The downside is that with that fit you will be about as tough as a wet tissue and not exceptionally fast.
You can swap out a dampener or two for kin cats and still be ok most of the time because most folks won't be carrying a scanner good enough to scan you down anyway. You will just have to watch out for the few people that do.
Also look into nova knives at least at advanced level. They are very quiet when they hit and less likely to draw attention from any nearby red dots when you kill someone. Remember just because you aren't on radar, doesn't mean that there aren't other ways to find you. |
A WILD PIGEON
Chatelain Rapid Response Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:51:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.30 01:55:00 -
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Crow Splat wrote:AFAIK, the only way to become "invisible" to scanners is to run proto Gallente Scout with 4 complex profile dampeners in the low slots. This takes your profile below the precision of the best active scanner available. The downside is that with that fit you will be about as tough as a wet tissue and not exceptionally fast.
You can swap out a dampener or two for kin cats and still be ok most of the time because most folks won't be carrying a scanner good enough to scan you down anyway. You will just have to watch out for the few people that do.
Also look into nova knives at least at advanced level. They are very quiet when they hit and less likely to draw attention from any nearby red dots when you kill someone. Remember just because you aren't on radar, doesn't mean that there aren't other ways to find you.
alright thanks i will look into dampeners and nova knives |
BARDAS
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.30 02:16:00 -
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You might want to look into the Minmatar Scout suit if you are going to go down the Nova Knife route as the racial bonus grants 5% Nova Knife damage per level for a total of 25% bonus NK damage at proto suit. That can help a lot. That suit also has a higher base HP than the Gallente suit and has a slightly faster base speed as well. Trade off is less Low slots and lower PG/CPU which makes it harder to fit modules. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.30 03:58:00 -
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BARDAS wrote:You might want to look into the Minmatar Scout suit if you are going to go down the Nova Knife route as the racial bonus grants 5% Nova Knife damage per level for a total of 25% bonus NK damage at proto suit. That can help a lot. That suit also has a higher base HP than the Gallente suit and has a slightly faster base speed as well. Trade off is less Low slots and lower PG/CPU which makes it harder to fit modules.
EDIT: You also get an extra high slot at proto level for Minny. Not that I would recommend ever running a Proto scout suit since we are paper thin. Min have higher logical/potential HP at proto levels due to slot layouts. Up through advanced the Gallente will due to similar slot layouts and higher base HP on the Gallente with the Min being slightly faster. I'm a fan of the Min just for slot layout; hate the NK bonus since I don't use them, but w/e. That's life.
Gallente is more of a "Scout" or "Recon" while Minmatar is more of an "Assassin" type. |
FATPrincess - XOXO
Shining Flame Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:05:00 -
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My advice I always give to potential scouts even though I never use one, only for dropping uplinks:
Imo Minmatar is the best scout, because shield tanking. Gallente is good at ADV levels, but I don't like the full armor tank at the proto level (it has 1 high 4 lows). Since you already invested in Gallente scout here's my fitting suggestion:
-ADV Gallente Scout -Militia Shotgun -Proto SMG -2 complex shield extenders -1 complex reactive plate -1 basic armor plate -Flux grenades -Active scanner
You have noticed I didn't bother with dampeners/catalyzers. You won't really need dampeners, most people don't use the active scanner anyway. You already have low enough dB to stay hidden from all suits. Just invest in the dampening/enhancing/radius skills for the passive bonuses.
Having more HP is more important for me. You already are fast enough and got more stamina than medium suits. Scouts have fast shield recharge so you'll want to take advantage of it with shield tanking your Gallente suit.
Good luck.
-XOXO |
GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.30 18:58:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:My advice I always give to potential scouts even though I never use one, only for dropping uplinks:
Imo Minmatar is the best scout, because shield tanking. Gallente is good at ADV levels, but I don't like the full armor tank at the proto level (it has 1 high 4 lows). Since you already invested in Gallente scout here's my fitting suggestion:
-ADV Gallente Scout -Militia Shotgun -Proto SMG -2 complex shield extenders -1 complex reactive plate -1 basic armor plate -Flux grenades -Active scanner
You have noticed I didn't bother with dampeners/catalyzers. You won't really need dampeners, most people don't use the active scanner anyway. You already have low enough dB to stay hidden from all suits. Just invest in the dampening/enhancing/radius skills for the passive bonuses.
Having more HP is more important for me. You already are fast enough and got more stamina than medium suits. Scouts have fast shield recharge so you'll want to take advantage of it with shield tanking your Gallente suit.
Good luck.
-XOXO
Kk thanks princess i will try this
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
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Posted - 2013.08.31 17:32:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:You have noticed I didn't bother with dampeners/catalyzers. You won't really need dampeners, most people don't use the active scanner anyway. You already have low enough dB to stay hidden from all suits. Just invest in the dampening/enhancing/radius skills for the passive bonuses.
I've been running an active scanner regularly for the last week or so. It has a limited scope, even if you sweep, and a cool down timer. I still managed to get knifed and shotgunned when sneaking in to hack. I agree about not fitting dampeners but do invest in the dampening skill a few levels. That way you should have a better chance of being missed by other scouts.
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Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.09.01 02:02:00 -
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:ok so im barely starting to be a scout been a heavy for a while and i just want speed and stealth i have a militia shotgun , smg gallente scout basic basic active scanner 2 militia cardiac regulators and a shield regulator
anyone want to help me with this suit i got about 500 sp right now ? i really dont want to be seen by anyone just friendly Don't use scanners unless if your using the quantum one for sneaking and stalking and use kenetic catalyzers for the speed and stealth is just getting minmatar scout instead of the basic version because of its bonus. |
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GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR
the unholy legion of darkstar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.09.01 07:09:00 -
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Smooth Assassin wrote:GHOSTLY ANNIHILATOR wrote:ok so im barely starting to be a scout been a heavy for a while and i just want speed and stealth i have a militia shotgun , smg gallente scout basic basic active scanner 2 militia cardiac regulators and a shield regulator
anyone want to help me with this suit i got about 500 sp right now ? i really dont want to be seen by anyone just friendly Don't use scanners unless if your using the quantum one for sneaking and stalking and use kenetic catalyzers for the speed and stealth is just getting minmatar scout instead of the basic version because of its bonus.
GOt it |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:20:00 -
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K here's the real deal I seen some mis information here. A good scout does his math. Profile dampening Your suit stock 45db Racial once reached proto 33.75 With passive level 5 profile dampening 30.375 Once here a basic pd will get you under proto 28db scanner which needs to be done if your minmatar To beat the 15 db you need to be gallente proto. 25.78 one complex 19.335 two complex 14.49 three complex beats proto scanner but still blips if you move 10.86 4 complex
That an the range bonus are the gallentes strong points
Minmatar knives, gallente Connot reach this power or movement
Proto suit 25% proficiency knives 15% Proto blades 200 + suit = 250 + pro5 =287 each blade Both blades connecting uncharged 575 since I rounded down 287. Whatever Both charged 1150 With complex damage mod 1265 Two cdm 1391.5 uncharged both blades 695 My advanced "killer " suit is Enhanced sadm Enhanced precision Enhanced an basic kinetics Adv quantum scanner proto knives proficiency 4
My "tiger stalking suit" Pro knive Two shield or one an a precision Pro knives Toxin smg proficiency 3 Basic armor reping reactive plate Basic pd Adv quantum scanner
Shotgunner
K5 specialist Pro knives Enhanced red/green combo Scanner Shields
Level passive skills an suit core skills is a must or you can fit this gear on a advanced suit |
OZAROW
WarRavens League of Infamy
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Posted - 2013.09.13 04:22:00 -
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^ minmatar adv scout suit |
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