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Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.29 13:02:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Leovarian L Lavitz wrote:I see infantry going over 35 kills a match. You are telling me that tanks are doing worse than infantry. And how many times infantry dies ? .. some times i get 30 kills.. "sometimes", but i die a minimum of 8 times in the process. Tanks can potentially get 30 kills without dying ones... is a very big difference ...Imagine if AV nades cost 300k .. 8 X 350k = 2,800,000 isk.
Yeah but you can run an ISK profit every game with infantry unless you are stupid and run proto. My 2.2m SP alt runs ADV and makes a profit every game.
If AV grenades cost 300k, people would think before slapping them onto an assault suit not meant for AV. I'm not saying that they should cost that much, but a price increase in AV will make people think twice before slapping on AV. And proto forges need to cost at least half of a proto large turret. The amount of proto forges that are being run is astonishing, as the risk v reward is extremely low for them on top of towers. If they cost more, people would think twice before starting a match with an IAFG before any vehicles have been called in. |
Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.29 14:07:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Jack McReady wrote:btw swarms have only one real valid target: armor tanks
-shield tanks are too resistant due to explo resistance
-llav are invincible
-dropships outrun swarms with AB, once they are at 1/3 health they just fly away and come back later with full health
-untanked vehicles can be also taken out by militia swarms, not an argument
the price for swarms is fine. Why does everyone say LLAVs are invincible? They are no where near invincible. It just takes some tactics to kill them, but they burn quite nice. Sorry, not the point of the thread, I just get really annoyed when I see people say this. When you hit a LLAV with an AVD Plasma Cannon with Damage modules.. and the shield "doesn't" goes down.. i'll say that makes them invincible... remember that the Plasma Cannon is supposed to be designed to break through Vehicles Shields.
They are not invincible. I've lost my Charybdis plenty of times because I had three proto swarms unleashed upon me at once. It's called coordination. Sadly, this kind of coordination needs to be used for taking out HAVs, not LLAVs. |
Harpyja
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Posted - 2013.08.29 14:31:00 -
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Panther Alpha wrote:Harpyja wrote:Panther Alpha wrote:ResistanceGTA wrote:Jack McReady wrote:btw swarms have only one real valid target: armor tanks
-shield tanks are too resistant due to explo resistance
-llav are invincible
-dropships outrun swarms with AB, once they are at 1/3 health they just fly away and come back later with full health
-untanked vehicles can be also taken out by militia swarms, not an argument
the price for swarms is fine. Why does everyone say LLAVs are invincible? They are no where near invincible. It just takes some tactics to kill them, but they burn quite nice. Sorry, not the point of the thread, I just get really annoyed when I see people say this. When you hit a LLAV with an AVD Plasma Cannon with Damage modules.. and the shield "doesn't" goes down.. i'll say that makes them invincible... remember that the Plasma Cannon is supposed to be designed to break through Vehicles Shields. They are not invincible. I've lost my Charybdis plenty of times because I had three proto swarms unleashed upon me at once. It's called coordination. Sadly, this kind of coordination needs to be used for taking out HAVs, not LLAVs. Three Proto Swarms Coordination is a PUB match ?.. yeah.. like that happens often ..First you need THREE Proto Swarm Launchers in the same team...  Then some type of communication.. like.. 3,2,1 SHOOT... Even Corps will find that hard in a PC battle.. to many variables... So is pretty much IMPOSSIBLE in a PUB match.
Well, like I said, it should be the other way around. It should take coordination to take out a HAV, while LLAVs should be brought down by one or two proto AV at the most. |
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