DUST Search - Easy fix for tanks selfishly destroying Supply Depots

Lillica Deathdealer wrote:

Assert Dominance wrote:

Spkr4theDead wrote:

Assert Dominance wrote:

Buff the shields to 20,000 and armor to 100,000, gg selfish tanks. If the enemy team wants your tank gone they will destroy it whether the supply depot is there or not. Dont punish infantry because of your insecurities. Cool

Did you miss every single post made by tankers in the last few days?

Since you choose to miss everything, I'll say it again.

We blow up depots if we have to. We don't do it just because we want to. Lots of us run armor tanks, and do like the fact that we could visit a depot to top off our armor. However, if it looks like the enemy team has a ton of AV available, then we're going to take it out. If a match is really close, and a depot is the only thing standing between my team taking an objective and losing, I'll destroy it if the other team is spamming grenades and explosive weaponry.

We have our reasons, and they're good reasons. We get 100 WP for destroying installations. We get 50 WP for destroying a depot. Tell me, why would I spend the time putting 12-15 rail rounds into a depot when I could just put 2-3 into an installation, and get more WP?

You don't have a base for an argument.

Tankers act is if youre all one in the same, "you" may have your reasons, but not all tankers do. 90% of tankers are not what you would consider smart, read recent post for example ^

Bear in mind this argument of 90% dont act intelligently can absolutely backfire on you.
I've seen swarms try to kill supply depots for whatever reason. Should I say all scrub AV guys dont have a brain? No I shouldn't, because there are enough with the intelligence to get atop a spire and deny all vehicles on the battlefield. Also we can examine infantry. A good many wait for an objective to turn red before hacking it so they can get points. Does that make them wrong? Surely they could have aided the team more by counterhacking without a reward. Also performing logistics activities from a shield logi LAV gives no points, scanning gives no points, destroying equipment gives no points. Many people avoid doing things because it gives no points. In qa losing match many infantry that could bring out expensive, dare I say proto equipment switch to militia gear instead because they dont want to lose money. A tanker still bring in their tank, and it absolutely costs more than your suit. Where is the argument there? Combining your infantry with the tank might even be able to push an objective!
And then theres the choice of targets. Certainly, alot of infantry sooner kill the guy that can kill them than the guy that can kill the tank. If the infantry killed the AV guy, the tank could kill the other assault focused infantry and you'd have a wonderful world. But thats not how it goes is it?


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Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 173	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:21:00 - [1] - Quote Assert Dominance wrote: Buff the shields to 20,000 and armor to 100,000, gg selfish tanks. If the enemy team wants your tank gone they will destroy it whether the supply depot is there or not. Dont punish infantry because of your insecurities. Once again somebody doesn't understand the tanker's position. It's not for selfish reasons. That depot, installation and CRU poses a threat if it stays in enemy hands. You can't cap it then it needs to go. It's helping you out for me to take it from the enemy. You not capping it blue isn't helping anybody.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 173	Posted - 2013.08.28 13:24:00 - [2] - Quote Halador Anubis wrote: Well, they're adding ammo capacity to vehicles, so that'll help. The depot will only be good for this if I can hack it blue while still in my tank. Otherwise, it is still a hazard.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 184	Posted - 2013.08.28 19:55:00 - [3] - Quote Lillica Deathdealer wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Spkr4theDead wrote: Assert Dominance wrote: Buff the shields to 20,000 and armor to 100,000, gg selfish tanks. If the enemy team wants your tank gone they will destroy it whether the supply depot is there or not. Dont punish infantry because of your insecurities. Did you miss every single post made by tankers in the last few days? Since you choose to miss everything, I'll say it again. We blow up depots if we have to. We don't do it just because we want to. Lots of us run armor tanks, and do like the fact that we could visit a depot to top off our armor. However, if it looks like the enemy team has a ton of AV available, then we're going to take it out. If a match is really close, and a depot is the only thing standing between my team taking an objective and losing, I'll destroy it if the other team is spamming grenades and explosive weaponry. We have our reasons, and they're good reasons. We get 100 WP for destroying installations. We get 50 WP for destroying a depot. Tell me, why would I spend the time putting 12-15 rail rounds into a depot when I could just put 2-3 into an installation, and get more WP? You don't have a base for an argument. Tankers act is if youre all one in the same, "you" may have your reasons, but not all tankers do. 90% of tankers are not what you would consider smart, read recent post for example ^ Bear in mind this argument of 90% dont act intelligently can absolutely backfire on you. I've seen swarms try to kill supply depots for whatever reason. Should I say all scrub AV guys dont have a brain? No I shouldn't, because there are enough with the intelligence to get atop a spire and deny all vehicles on the battlefield. Also we can examine infantry. A good many wait for an objective to turn red before hacking it so they can get points. Does that make them wrong? Surely they could have aided the team more by counterhacking without a reward. Also performing logistics activities from a shield logi LAV gives no points, scanning gives no points, destroying equipment gives no points. Many people avoid doing things because it gives no points. In qa losing match many infantry that could bring out expensive, dare I say proto equipment switch to militia gear instead because they dont want to lose money. A tanker still bring in their tank, and it absolutely costs more than your suit. Where is the argument there? Combining your infantry with the tank might even be able to push an objective! And then theres the choice of targets. Certainly, alot of infantry sooner kill the guy that can kill them than the guy that can kill the tank. If the infantry killed the AV guy, the tank could kill the other assault focused infantry and you'd have a wonderful world. But thats not how it goes is it? Seems like if one is going to complain about stupid players in tanks then the problem is with the stupid players and not the tankers. The complaints on the forums however, refer to the tankers. If the post would specify bad players in tanks rather than "tankers" we'd avoid a lot of confusion and bad blood.
Operative 1171 Aajli Bragian Order Amarr Empire 185	Posted - 2013.08.28 20:09:00 - [4] - Quote Delta 749 wrote: The real irony is that some installations on the field actually help protect the tanks since the swarms they are all scared of like to lock on to things that are farther from the center of the reticule so if a tank is near a depot or CRU the installation grabs the lock and not the tank And now with them getting limited ammo in the future tanks will just cry some more and keep blowing up installations that could resupply them A red depot resupplies the enemy tank. Hence, it will be no more.