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Lillica Deathdealer
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Posted - 2013.08.28 15:45:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:negative49er wrote:We don't want people switching to their Av
So I'm Sorry Not enough apparently, you **** over your whole damn team when you do this selfish bs. I shouldn't have to die just to get another clip cause some big dumb pile of scrap metal decided to take out every defense structure and supply depot on the friendly side. Is screwing over your whole team and putting yourself at risk because nobody can or will defend you against the multiple other tanks on the field really worth 50 measly wp to you? You do realize you put a noose around your teams neck as soon as you pull that crap right? If I am running assault and av starts blasting swarms at you I cannot switch to a sniper fit to save your sorry ass, and if the other team pulls out several tanks? You really think you're enough of a badass to hold out on your own? Good luck with that.
But how often do you see blueberries actually snipe the AV guys in a match? How often do you see blueberries put up a good fight once multiple tanks show up on the battle field, if nobody on the team has proto AV that can solo them? No very often yeah? So it comes down to hoping your blueberries do something smart and risk 2.2 mil, or take out the depot that is ALREADY RED (with no clear push by your team to take it back) and have fewer threats to deal with. Not to mention a hostile tank can sit next to said supply depot and gain the advantage of armor reps. Tell me, which of these seems more appropriate in the situation I presented, which more often than not is the situation in games? Most vet tankers are much smarter than you give credit to, and the thought process is not "lol lets get 50 WP." Instead its "given the circumstances of the battle is it more beneficial to my team to take out this structure?" Consider this- If the enemy has to remain in the suit they spawn, wouldn't it actually help the team if they were locked into an AV role to bust up the tank? Wouldn't that mean the infantry could rush in and only have to face a group of guys with swarm launchers in hand?
The issue is that nobody thinks that far, as seen by your posts on the forums, and takes advantage of what the smart tankers are trying to do for you. I don't expect you take take what I said well because I'm not running around with an AR, so let the trolling begin. |
Lillica Deathdealer
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Posted - 2013.08.28 23:06:00 -
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Flux Raeder wrote:Lillica Deathdealer wrote:Flux Raeder wrote:negative49er wrote:We don't want people switching to their Av
So I'm Sorry Not enough apparently, you **** over your whole damn team when you do this selfish bs. I shouldn't have to die just to get another clip cause some big dumb pile of scrap metal decided to take out every defense structure and supply depot on the friendly side. Is screwing over your whole team and putting yourself at risk because nobody can or will defend you against the multiple other tanks on the field really worth 50 measly wp to you? You do realize you put a noose around your teams neck as soon as you pull that crap right? If I am running assault and av starts blasting swarms at you I cannot switch to a sniper fit to save your sorry ass, and if the other team pulls out several tanks? You really think you're enough of a badass to hold out on your own? Good luck with that. But how often do you see blueberries actually snipe the AV guys in a match? How often do you see blueberries put up a good fight once multiple tanks show up on the battle field, if nobody on the team has proto AV that can solo them? No very often yeah? So it comes down to hoping your blueberries do something smart and risk 2.2 mil, or take out the depot that is ALREADY RED (with no clear push by your team to take it back) and have fewer threats to deal with. Not to mention a hostile tank can sit next to said supply depot and gain the advantage of armor reps. Tell me, which of these seems more appropriate in the situation I presented, which more often than not is the situation in games? Most vet tankers are much smarter than you give credit to, and the thought process is not "lol lets get 50 WP." Instead its "given the circumstances of the battle is it more beneficial to my team to take out this structure?" Consider this- If the enemy has to remain in the suit they spawn, wouldn't it actually help the team if they were locked into an AV role to bust up the tank? Wouldn't that mean the infantry could rush in and only have to face a group of guys with swarm launchers in hand? The issue is that nobody thinks that far, as seen by your posts on the forums, and takes advantage of what the smart tankers are trying to do for you. I don't expect you take take what I said well because I'm not running around with an AR, so let the trolling begin. I've actually heard tankers on my teamchat saying things exactly like "yeah! Easy wp" as they proceed to blow up every neutral supply depot and turret on the friendlies side of the field and then go on to hide in the hills the rest of the map. This is who this thread and these posts are directed at. You are an exception to this if what you say is true and I am an exception to most people's views on infantry, meaning I actually try to help my team and be as big a pain in the ass to the enemy as possible. Just the other day I hacked a rail gun turret, killed two tanks, one and a half (assist) dropships and all enemy red zone turrets in about two minutes, body-shot ohk'd seven infantry before they blew the turret up, saw a tank on the hill exactly on the redline, went up to it, saw it was empty w two snipers in the redzone, killed them both with my smg, hacked the tank, blew up ANOTHER of their tanks with their own tank, and took out two more active red railguns before someone proto-raped the tank and finally gave me my first death. (Was standing too close when it blew and was only wearing a militia scout suit). While such a good streak is not common it would have been a LOT harder without the turret and the supply depot I used to switch my armour out. So in summation yes, it can be a good idea to take out turrets and depots but please at least wait until it actuly looks like they will be of no more use to your team.
Your story is justification for some of the less capable tankers to destroy turrets. Without a SIGNIFICANT amount of SP invested, the tanker understands that its too risky to let an installation with a good vantage point live, especially when there isnt a blue presence nearby it, because the tanker probably understands that people like you are capable of miracles with it under their control. Alot of the time I'll bet its the people pulling a militia tank that go for this, too. Militia tank often means no little or no SP into vehicles, which translates into either new tanker or assault guy (thats your infantry friends that have been crying recently :\) in the driver seat. As an open invitation to all infantry and AV who want to try playing with real tankers, visit 'Honey Badger' chat. If you guys join up and are actually interested in using combined arms, teamwork, and communication to dominate the enemy by all means form some squads! |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
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Posted - 2013.08.28 23:08:00 -
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Another Heavy SOB wrote:Lillica Deathdealer wrote:Flux Raeder wrote:negative49er wrote:We don't want people switching to their Av
So I'm Sorry Not enough apparently, you **** over your whole damn team when you do this selfish bs. I shouldn't have to die just to get another clip cause some big dumb pile of scrap metal decided to take out every defense structure and supply depot on the friendly side. Is screwing over your whole team and putting yourself at risk because nobody can or will defend you against the multiple other tanks on the field really worth 50 measly wp to you? You do realize you put a noose around your teams neck as soon as you pull that crap right? If I am running assault and av starts blasting swarms at you I cannot switch to a sniper fit to save your sorry ass, and if the other team pulls out several tanks? You really think you're enough of a badass to hold out on your own? Good luck with that. But how often do you see blueberries actually snipe the AV guys in a match? How often do you see blueberries put up a good fight once multiple tanks show up on the battle field, if nobody on the team has proto AV that can solo them? No very often yeah? So it comes down to hoping your blueberries do something smart and risk 2.2 mil, or take out the depot that is ALREADY RED (with no clear push by your team to take it back) and have fewer threats to deal with. Not to mention a hostile tank can sit next to said supply depot and gain the advantage of armor reps. Tell me, which of these seems more appropriate in the situation I presented, which more often than not is the situation in games? Most vet tankers are much smarter than you give credit to, and the thought process is not "lol lets get 50 WP." Instead its "given the circumstances of the battle is it more beneficial to my team to take out this structure?" Consider this- If the enemy has to remain in the suit they spawn, wouldn't it actually help the team if they were locked into an AV role to bust up the tank? Wouldn't that mean the infantry could rush in and only have to face a group of guys with swarm launchers in hand? The issue is that nobody thinks that far, as seen by your posts on the forums, and takes advantage of what the smart tankers are trying to do for you. I don't expect you take take what I said well because I'm not running around with an AR, so let the trolling begin. Lmao some of you tankers are just silly. You state how blueberries so rarely have proto AV. But the most common tanker complaint "my tank is UP Cuz everybody has proto AV!". lol, so which is it? Cmon guys stick with your story!
similarly, "tanks are OP cause they dominate the field!" Then they get popped. Was it just a matter of whether or not you tried to aim, lock on, and fire that swarm? |
Lillica Deathdealer
Mango and Friends
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Posted - 2013.08.29 03:26:00 -
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Lmao some of you tankers are just silly.
You state how blueberries so rarely have proto AV. But the most common tanker complaint "my tank is UP Cuz everybody has proto AV!". lol, so which is it? Cmon guys stick with your story!
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similarly, "tanks are OP cause they dominate the field!" Then they get popped. Was it just a matter of whether or not you tried to aim, lock on, and fire that swarm?[/quote]
I think I have come to a stat of enlightenment between these two posts: if both sides are constantly bitching and moaning about the other side being op and their side being up, while both presenting circumstances that seem to validate their statements, you have finally built a perfectly balanced system.
Don't change a thing CCP! 
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Well aren't you a smart one? Tell me, are you intending to give worthwhile feedback to CCP, or just looking to destroy any chances of them taking forumgoers seriously? Not that it matters, because you're not the only one acting this way. As you can see, I am to by deciding to talk to you.
In any case I'm going to take what you just said at face value because I'm assuming you really do want to improve the game. How is an AV man UP when all he has to do is invest in AV? Tanks right now are fine, assuming that when adv. and proto modules are introduced they will scale up accordingly. This way they wont be outclassed simply by the numbers. Oh, let me include a face as well for dramatic effect. I'll use your favorite one, the eyeroll. Fun right? |
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