DUST Search - War Points for Anti-Hacking Contested NULL Cannons

Vespasian Andendare wrote:

sebil crostar wrote:

Funkmaster Whale wrote:

I think the reason it's not there in the first place is to prevent WP farming with continuous hacks/counter hacks. They said they need to come up with ways to prevent people from exploiting the system. The whole WP system is being looked at in 1.5 supposedly.

I don't really agree because counter hacks take ages and you're really vulnerable so good luck trying to farm WPs from counter hacking. A fair amount of time you're going to get shot and have to abandon it or die. The decision to make counter hacking so slow was surely the balance to prevent the exploitation you are talking about.

Funkmaster Whale was referring to a situation where two players collude and hack/counter hack while everyone stands by and watches. This similar concern was for people just shooting and farming WPs with repair tools, but they fixed that so the individual can only get a certain number of WPs per time period. In order for this to work for hacks, you'd have to have the actual hacking action have a cooldown period, but then this would cause WP problems with genuine hacks (otherwise you'd just have people taking turns).

I agree that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that a counter hack takes longer yet provides no benefit.


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lithkul devant Legions of Infinite Dominion 40	Posted - 2013.08.29 19:26:00 - [1] - Quote Vespasian Andendare wrote: sebil crostar wrote: Funkmaster Whale wrote: I think the reason it's not there in the first place is to prevent WP farming with continuous hacks/counter hacks. They said they need to come up with ways to prevent people from exploiting the system. The whole WP system is being looked at in 1.5 supposedly. I don't really agree because counter hacks take ages and you're really vulnerable so good luck trying to farm WPs from counter hacking. A fair amount of time you're going to get shot and have to abandon it or die. The decision to make counter hacking so slow was surely the balance to prevent the exploitation you are talking about. Funkmaster Whale was referring to a situation where two players collude and hack/counter hack while everyone stands by and watches. This similar concern was for people just shooting and farming WPs with repair tools, but they fixed that so the individual can only get a certain number of WPs per time period. In order for this to work for hacks, you'd have to have the actual hacking action have a cooldown period, but then this would cause WP problems with genuine hacks (otherwise you'd just have people taking turns). I agree that it doesn't make a whole lot of sense that a counter hack takes longer yet provides no benefit. Well here's my problem with counter hacks as they currently are, they take more time then a hack by a time and a half, give no points even when you are successful, and you've put me out of the battle that entire duration on one task, where during that time, I could have probably made over 100wp rather easily doing a variety of other activities. In other words the current system is directly punishing me for being a team player. This effectively means I am getting less SP per match then someone that is just focussing on their KD ratio by a lot or a person who is being a medic, for example if you have the ability to heal the people bleeding out 2 stabs and you've gotten 120 points, their also is no limit upon how much you can do this. I'm sure everyone knows a method they could easily have gotten over 100 points during the extensive time a counter hack takes. Simply put thier is no effective way to farm counter hacks due to how much time they take even if you get them the same points as a finished hack does. A simple way of preventing farming this would be that the points only arrive to you, if you have successfully guarded the objective for 30 seconds from anyone else hacking it again.