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Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1166
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Posted - 2013.08.27 16:59:00 -
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When cooldowns are off seems dangerous and tedious.
All this talk about "Not sitting still" (Despite every DS role requiring some level of stillness / stability) goes out the window when they say
Okay well now that you're depleted, go park on the ground over there and get owned in a second. |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
796
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:04:00 -
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well if instalations become a thing perhaps you can deploy drone ammo supplies that you can move your drop ship near in the sky.
honestly I think that would be a solid addition.
call them sky beacons and add a rail gun to them. |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1166
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:05:00 -
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calisk galern wrote:well if instalations become a thing perhaps you can deploy drone ammo supplies that you can move your drop ship near in the sky.
honestly I think that would be a solid addition.
I can guarantee you anything like that is too much work and years away at best.
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Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
455
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:06:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:When cooldowns are off seems dangerous and tedious.
All this talk about "Not sitting still" (Despite every DS role requiring some level of stillness / stability) goes out the window when they say
Okay well now that you're depleted, go park on the ground over there and get owned in a second. ...or park it behind your redline, back where its safe....? |
calisk galern
BurgezzE.T.F
796
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:06:00 -
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a supply depo in the sky is too much work....why? |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1166
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:07:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:When cooldowns are off seems dangerous and tedious.
All this talk about "Not sitting still" (Despite every DS role requiring some level of stillness / stability) goes out the window when they say
Okay well now that you're depleted, go park on the ground over there and get owned in a second. ...or park it behind your redline, back where its safe....?
Because every game mode has redlines, right?
OH wait! |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1168
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:08:00 -
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I guess this inadvertently spells the death of ever using vehicles in Ambush too.
I'd really like then, for red-line rail tanks and installations to be removed from Skirm/Dom. And the ISK payouts to go up in there because as it is playing anything other than ambush is the fastest way to go broke with DS.
I love being hit by stray MCC missiles for 500,000 damage too.
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Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
455
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:10:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Nemo Bluntz wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:When cooldowns are off seems dangerous and tedious.
All this talk about "Not sitting still" (Despite every DS role requiring some level of stillness / stability) goes out the window when they say
Okay well now that you're depleted, go park on the ground over there and get owned in a second. ...or park it behind your redline, back where its safe....? Because every game mode has redlines, right? OH wait! You're concerned about your dropship running out of ammo in an ambush?
Those rounds are only a few minutes long. |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1168
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:13:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Nemo Bluntz wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:When cooldowns are off seems dangerous and tedious.
All this talk about "Not sitting still" (Despite every DS role requiring some level of stillness / stability) goes out the window when they say
Okay well now that you're depleted, go park on the ground over there and get owned in a second. ...or park it behind your redline, back where its safe....? Because every game mode has redlines, right? OH wait! You're concerned about your dropship running out of ammo in an ambush? Those rounds are only a few minutes long.
After which point its virtually dead/worthless and a liability. Ever been in a dog fight or tried chasing a LAV? Even aiming at infantry isn't a cake walk, especially if under any sort of AV pressure.
Those bullets can go mighty fast |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
456
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:19:00 -
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How many rounds do you think you're going to have? Is there any solid number on it yet?
And your complaints are right there with infantry too. In an ambush, on my proto suit, if I go the round without dying, ammo starts to become a scarce resource. |
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hackerzilla
Defenders of the Helghast Dream
245
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:33:00 -
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Nemo Bluntz wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:When cooldowns are off seems dangerous and tedious.
All this talk about "Not sitting still" (Despite every DS role requiring some level of stillness / stability) goes out the window when they say
Okay well now that you're depleted, go park on the ground over there and get owned in a second. ...or park it behind your redline, back where its safe....? No they're not.
The almighty swarms can still reach you, as stupid as it sounds. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7790
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:36:00 -
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I think I already passed this idea previously to CCP Logic Loop, I'll see if I can poke him again about it now that there are stronger reasons for it. |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5933
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:37:00 -
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Redline supply depot say whaaaaaaaaaaaat? |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1171
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:38:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I think I already passed this idea previously to CCP Logic Loop, I'll see if I can poke him again about it now that there are stronger reasons for it.
What idea specifically? Not having to be a sitting duck in an expensive "Medium" vehicle using small modules, that's probably still going to be weaker than an LAV? |
Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers EoN.
456
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:38:00 -
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hackerzilla wrote:Nemo Bluntz wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:When cooldowns are off seems dangerous and tedious.
All this talk about "Not sitting still" (Despite every DS role requiring some level of stillness / stability) goes out the window when they say
Okay well now that you're depleted, go park on the ground over there and get owned in a second. ...or park it behind your redline, back where its safe....? No they're not. The almighty swarms can still reach you, as stupid as it sounds. Being on the swarmer side, it does sound pretty stupid. The way they track, they're more likely to his the side of a hill, or a building, or the supply depot you fly to, etc. |
Rogatien Merc
Red Star. EoN.
823
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:39:00 -
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if they suitably increase DS survivability, i for one would NOT welcome our new 'infinite ammo nearly-unkillable' overlords.
take your licks along with the rest of us. |
Cyrius Li-Moody
The New Age Outlaws
791
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:41:00 -
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guess this fixes tanks in ambush. |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1171
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:41:00 -
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Rogatien Merc wrote:if they suitably increase DS survivability, i for one would NOT welcome our new 'infinite ammo nearly-unkillable' overlords. take your licks along with the rest of us.
That's yet to be seen. They could still end up crap or worse than before.
I said that wasn't possible the last patch. The one before and then before that. But boy was I proven wrong... |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7791
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:42:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I think I already passed this idea previously to CCP Logic Loop, I'll see if I can poke him again about it now that there are stronger reasons for it. What idea specifically? Not having to be a sitting duck in an expensive "Medium" vehicle using small modules, that's probably still going to be weaker than an LAV?
Ahem... Sockets that do things can cannot be destroyed.
Like change your fit, repair, kill, de-shield, jamm, resupply, periodic hazards ect ect. |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1586
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:42:00 -
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what is this limited ammo business? |
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Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1171
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:42:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:I think I already passed this idea previously to CCP Logic Loop, I'll see if I can poke him again about it now that there are stronger reasons for it. What idea specifically? Not having to be a sitting duck in an expensive "Medium" vehicle using small modules, that's probably still going to be weaker than an LAV? Ahem... Sockets that do things can cannot be destroyed. Like change your fit, repair, kill, de-shield, jamm, resupply, periodic hazards ect ect.
I see. It'd still have to have some decent cover |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1171
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:43:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:what is this limited ammo business? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=104985 |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1586
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:49:00 -
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Dias Mio!
But wait did they just say they were going to buff damage on them too because they will have finite ammo? |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1171
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Posted - 2013.08.27 17:52:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:Dias Mio! But wait did they just say they were going to buff damage on them too because they will have finite ammo?
Well, if they don't vehicles won't even be able to kill eachother.
Erm. I mean dropships won't be able to kill any other vehicle. HAV's will still tear us up |
Bojo The Mighty
Zanzibar Concept
1586
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Posted - 2013.08.27 18:01:00 -
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apparently armor repairers will be passive now. Who woulda known? |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
652
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Posted - 2013.08.27 18:08:00 -
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Nguruthos IX wrote:When cooldowns are off seems dangerous and tedious.
All this talk about "Not sitting still" (Despite every DS role requiring some level of stillness / stability) goes out the window when they say
Okay well now that you're depleted, go park on the ground over there and get owned in a second.
just don't spam all your ammo like a noob... place your shots, make them count. |
Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1172
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Posted - 2013.08.27 18:11:00 -
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Seymor Krelborn wrote:Nguruthos IX wrote:When cooldowns are off seems dangerous and tedious.
All this talk about "Not sitting still" (Despite every DS role requiring some level of stillness / stability) goes out the window when they say
Okay well now that you're depleted, go park on the ground over there and get owned in a second. just don't spam all your ammo like a noob... place your shots, make them count. cool downs too... pop em like a pro
Right. I'm not really a noob, I have a good idea what I'm talking about and I have pretty good aim. But thanks, obviously spamming at nothing is bad idea.
These turrets had better pack a punch to be worth the limited shots
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martinofski
Rebelles A Quebec Orion Empire
311
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Posted - 2013.08.27 18:34:00 -
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I am expecting DS will be so bad, people will use them without turrets then.
We can speculate on the quantity of ammunitions, but this ammunition limit really is a better idea for ground vehicles than dropships.
Aiming with a tank is much easier than with a ADS. Making more bullets useful. Same with the LAV turret. I will wait and see, but I am pretty sure they will have to make something regarding DS after 1.5.
I just hope Wolfman didn't say everything, mainly regarding Dropships.
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Nguruthos IX
Red and Silver Hand Amarr Empire
1176
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Posted - 2013.08.27 18:40:00 -
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Bojo The Mighty wrote:apparently armor repairers will be passive now. Who woulda known? Yeah, I'm very curious about how this is all going to pan out. |
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