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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 03:28:00 -
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...the Forge Gun is in fact a hand held Rail gun? |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
557
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Posted - 2013.08.27 03:55:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Cadari weaponry is usually either of two things. Rail based technology or Missile Based Technology
The Forge gun is Rail Based Tech. actually, the forge is a repurposed mining laser...... edit: just read ingame info, it is a repurposed mining railgun Where did you read this? |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:19:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Sgt Kirk wrote:Cadari weaponry is usually either of two things. Rail based technology or Missile Based Technology
The Forge gun is Rail Based Tech. actually, the forge is a repurposed mining laser...... edit: just read ingame info, it is a repurposed mining railgun Where did you read this? show info every single item has it.......press triangle
I knew about that. It does not say in the description that it is a "repurposed mining railgun". It does describe itself as functioning like a railgun.
I am only splitting hairs because people have been arguing with me on this fact.
I say it is a railgun, they say it is not.
I am lookin for completely irrefutable proof that it is in fact a railgun in the form of a DEV saying "Yes the FG is a railgun." |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:22:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:For example plasma weapons don't exists space side. Well that was certainly helpful |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:24:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:For example plasma weapons don't exists space side. you shut you hore mouth You would save face if you admit now that you were wrong and that the FG is indeed a railgun. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:35:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:ladwar wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:For example plasma weapons don't exists space side. you shut you hore mouth You would save face if you admit now that you were wrong and that the FG is indeed a railgun. *yawn* oh your still talking right w/e door is that way it has a X on it. your if your to lazy just hit alt+F4. someone refill my popcorn! You're being awfully childish where this debate is concerned. Something I would not have expected considering the other friendly rhetoric I have had with you here on the forums.
Quite disappointing really. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:41:00 -
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ladwar wrote:quite begging for attention. no one cares. What are you really afraid of here?
You set out to prove a point, but failed.
I proved you wrong. It's okay!
You can admit that you were wrong. Nobody will like you less for it. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
558
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:47:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:Dagger-Two wrote:The forge gun is a magnetic accelerator (railgun) weapon, re-purposed from its original form as a mining tool.
The Caldari, however, do not ONLY use railgun and missile weapons (though this is certainly their flavor in EVE). In space they also use blasters (a hybrid weapon, like a railgun, but firing a bolt of subatomic particles instead of a slug), and on the ground Caldari forces make use of plasma weaponry extensively.
Similarly, the Gallente use Railgun and missile weapons both in space and on the ground. Amarrians use missiles on some of their spacecraft and a lot of their own plasma based weaponry on the ground. Minmatar have adapted a lot of Rail and Plasma based weapons (in DUST we have the Mass Driver, a railgun-based grenade launcer) to suit their needs.
Not to mention pretty much EVERY races armed forces use conventional bullet-shooting weapons (Even the Amarrians!) because they are the most prolific, easiest to produce and maintain, and arguable most brutally reliable.
The weapons we see in DUST, and their racial specificity, are NOT an accurate portrayal of weaponry in the EVE universe. Its safe to say that every race has produces its own version of every type of weapon, be it laser, plasma, projectile, missile, or railgun. Quoting myself because people need some goddamn E(VE)ducation I know this, but it seems others do not. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 05:39:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:I am only splitting hairs because people have been arguing with me on this fact.
I say it is a railgun, they say it is not.
I am lookin for completely irrefutable proof that it is in fact a railgun in the form of a DEV saying "Yes the FG is a railgun." Dev Post that proves you are right JaraiyaHave them scroll to the bottom. you know the difference from a post and a blog. btw they generalized by how the damage counted unless you want to tell me that missiles work just like grenades and mercs just throw them out of their hands. all it proves is that its counted as same type of damage. Because it is a railgun! Of course it deals the same type of damage! |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 05:48:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:i stand corrected ... now lets talk about rail gun damage multipliers vs blaster damage multipliers :)
That Is beyond my scope of specialty! |
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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 06:11:00 -
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Billi Gene wrote:yes yes yes Rusty.. but lets clear up whether Rail guns need actual RAILS, to be classified as a rail gun! I like to be positive about the DEVs and the game as much as needed, but lets be frank...(puts on fake moustache)... the Forge Gun doesnt have the physical attributes to accurately fire a rail projectile. It lacks epeen inducing Length. If indeed the FG does possess rails that is. If it doesnt, then it is a Blaster. Which would match the item description. Rail guns afaik dont build a magnetic charge as the rail operate off of a current. Sure the charge up is to generate the Electrical charge to power the rail, but in no way does that translate into the forward armature locks into position, stabilizing the magnetic fieldlinksounds like a blaster to meeeee
Except for the fact that the Blaster is a Plasma weapon. In the dev blog it clearly states that the Plasma Heavy Weapon is TBA. That dictates that the FG is in fact a Railgun Heavy Weapon. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 06:15:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:ladwar wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:I am only splitting hairs because people have been arguing with me on this fact.
I say it is a railgun, they say it is not.
I am lookin for completely irrefutable proof that it is in fact a railgun in the form of a DEV saying "Yes the FG is a railgun." Dev Post that proves you are right JaraiyaHave them scroll to the bottom. you know the difference from a post and a blog. btw they generalized by how the damage counted unless you want to tell me that missiles work just like grenades and mercs just throw them out of their hands. all it proves is that its counted as same type of damage. The chart is perfectly clear on this. Hybrid - Railgun (long range). So everything listed under ARE Railguns. The Explosive doesn't say anything about missiles, guidance systems, or firing mechanism. It just says Explosive. so you agree that they generalized all the groups as to have less on the chart that's not needed. your not going to tell me the AR should fire like the plasma cannon are you? No, but the AR and the PC are both plasma hybrid weapons. They both fire Plasma.
The FG fires rails! |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
561
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Posted - 2013.08.27 06:19:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote: No, but the AR and the PC are both plasma hybrid weapons. They both fire Plasma.
The FG fires rails!
it shoots rails you say It does!
Furthermore, blasters do not require the weapon to charge. They are fully automatic High RoF anti-infantry weapons.
The FG is a charge up, slow RoF High Damage anti-matter weapon. *coughrailguncough* |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 06:43:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:ladwar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote: No, but the AR and the PC are both plasma hybrid weapons. They both fire Plasma.
The FG fires rails!
it shoots rails you say It does! Furthermore, blasters do not require the weapon to charge. They are fully automatic High RoF anti-infantry weapons. The FG is a charge up, slow RoF High Damage anti-matter weapon. *coughrailguncough* wow... you are so clueless. you don't even know why railguns are called railguns. that is why i don't care argue with you.
It is because they fire solid "rail" shaped projectiles!
EDIT: Actually just give it up. You have lost the argument many times over. Be adult about this and just admit that you were mistaken.
It is entirely juvenile for you to resort to infantile flaming, insulting, and/or name calling simply because you were proven wrong. |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.27 06:55:00 -
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Edited post 49 to more clearly reflect the reason it is called a "railgun" |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
562
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Posted - 2013.08.27 07:25:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Rusty Shallows wrote: The question was, "can a Dev tell us if the Forge Gun is a Railgun?" The chart (posted by a Dev) shows it under a listed title that says Hybrid - Railgun (long range). Everything under that listing is therefor a Railgun as stated by CCP Remnant.
Weapon game play characteristics is a moot point.
plasma- generalization (blasters/ cannons/ shotguns and TBA stuff) projectiles - generalizations (smgs/ HMG/ TBA stuff includes rifles its all) laser- generalizations(pulse and laser pointers or "beam") rail - generalization even thou you say its not (rifles/ forge/ TBA smg/rifle/pistols) explosives- completely generalizations( hand held/ gun launched/ missiles) you going to tell me shotguns/cannons work in the same way blasters? or HMGs work just like SMGs? or remote explosives track targets like missiles? Yes shotguns and Plasma Cannons work the same way blasters work. The only difference between them is the shape, size, and amount of plasma projectiles fired on one pull of the trigger, and the shape of the weapon firing them. Blasters are designed for medium range combat (longer barrel, single round expulsion in rapid succession) while shotguns are designed for very close range combat (multiple plasma pellets fired in a cluster from a very short but large diameter barrel).
HMG's and SMG's work the same. The only difference is the shape, size and amount of projectiles fired. The HMG has a longer barrel, therefore has greater range.
The lasers work similar to eachother. Light particles are magnified and intensified using a crystal.
Railguns work the same way! The only difference being the shape and size of the projectile, and the length of the weapon used to fire them! The longer the "rail" the greater the range!
etc, etc, etc. in ad nauseam |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.28 02:30:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:lets give it a crappy ads..it looks as if it could be givin a sight..
of course i think the forge gunner would prefer the big 0... Give me a Red Dot Sight with Tac AR Zoom and leave the Aim from hip as is! |
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