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Dagger-Two
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:13:00 -
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The forge gun is a magnetic accelerator (railgun) weapon, re-purposed from its original form as a mining tool.
The Caldari, however, do not ONLY use railgun and missile weapons (though this is certainly their flavor in EVE). In space they also use blasters (a hybrid weapon, like a railgun, but firing a bolt of subatomic particles instead of a slug), and on the ground Caldari forces make use of plasma weaponry extensively.
Similarly, the Gallente use Railgun and missile weapons both in space and on the ground. Amarrians use missiles on some of their spacecraft and a lot of their own plasma based weaponry on the ground. Minmatar have adapted a lot of Rail and Plasma based weapons (in DUST we have the Mass Driver, a railgun-based grenade launcer) to suit their needs.
Not to mention pretty much EVERY races armed forces use conventional bullet-shooting weapons (Even the Amarrians!) because they are the most prolific, easiest to produce and maintain, and arguable most brutally reliable.
The weapons we see in DUST, and their racial specificity, are NOT an accurate portrayal of weaponry in the EVE universe. Its safe to say that every race has produces its own version of every type of weapon, be it laser, plasma, projectile, missile, or railgun. |
Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:30:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:For example plasma weapons don't exists space side.
Umm.....Blasters.
Blasters are used in space. They fire plasma.
I can PROVE they fire plasma by the description in hybrid ammunition:
"Antimatter Charge S
Antimatter Charge S Consists of two components: a shell of titanium and a core of antimatter atoms suspended in plasma state. Railguns launch the shell directly, while particle blasters pump the plasma into a cyclotron and process the plasma into a bolt that is then fired."
You were saying? |
Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:31:00 -
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For a guy in the CPM...you know surprisingly little about EVE lore. |
Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:46:00 -
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Dagger-Two wrote:The forge gun is a magnetic accelerator (railgun) weapon, re-purposed from its original form as a mining tool.
The Caldari, however, do not ONLY use railgun and missile weapons (though this is certainly their flavor in EVE). In space they also use blasters (a hybrid weapon, like a railgun, but firing a bolt of subatomic particles instead of a slug), and on the ground Caldari forces make use of plasma weaponry extensively.
Similarly, the Gallente use Railgun and missile weapons both in space and on the ground. Amarrians use missiles on some of their spacecraft and a lot of their own plasma based weaponry on the ground. Minmatar have adapted a lot of Rail and Plasma based weapons (in DUST we have the Mass Driver, a railgun-based grenade launcer) to suit their needs.
Not to mention pretty much EVERY races armed forces use conventional bullet-shooting weapons (Even the Amarrians!) because they are the most prolific, easiest to produce and maintain, and arguable most brutally reliable.
The weapons we see in DUST, and their racial specificity, are NOT an accurate portrayal of weaponry in the EVE universe. Its safe to say that every race has produces its own version of every type of weapon, be it laser, plasma, projectile, missile, or railgun.
Quoting myself because people need some goddamn E(VE)ducation |
Dagger-Two
Villore Joint Task Force Villore Accords
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Posted - 2013.08.27 04:48:00 -
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Then you get a like! |
Dagger-Two
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Posted - 2013.08.27 23:47:00 -
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Ok, E(VE)ducation pt. 2
(Ignoring the forge gun for a moment, although in the images it DOES seem to have rails, 2 of them mounted vertically)
Blasters and Railguns in EVE use the same ammunition and use a similar propulsion system, and are therefore referred to as 'Hybrid' weapons. This is a concept which only partly applies in DUST, because Railguns and Plasma weapons in DUST fire vastly different ammunition.
The reason Hybrid weapons/munitions exist in EVE is likely the modular turret design that is favored on ships throughout New Eden. Railguns using this configuration would be hard pressed to achieve truly devestating((see below)) effects from solid projectiles due to limited rail length (though better conducting rails and higher transit voltages could compensate) and possibly due to the effectiveness of shielding against purely kinetic weapons. As such, firing a payload rather than a solid slug could drastically increase damage potential while keeping power requirements for the weapons reasonable. This is the case with railguns in EVE (many of which ARE true railguns) which fire plasma canisters.
Now, in DUST, the only similarity between the two weapons is that they use electromagnetic force to propel their shots.
In DUST, as an anti-infantry setting, railguns can be devestating through the use of small, penetrating solid slugs fired at very high velocities. No payload is necessary, and in fact, would probably make the weapon less effective due to much higher mass and greater size of the projectile.
Plasma weaponry in dust varies a little bit. The plasma rifle loads solid lead slugs that have a special fuse on them. When the slug is chambered, the fuse turns the solid lead into plasma (solid-state conversion mentioned in the weapon description) which is then processed into a bolt by the weapons cyclotron before being expelled out the 'barrel' by the weapons own magnetic propulsion system. The plasma cannon, however, seems to utilize a very small plasma canister from which it takes pre-packaged plasma and processes it into a bolt like a blaster in EVE. Not sure about the blaster turrets, but I would venture a guess that they both function more like the rifle than the P.C.
((When i say devestating, I of course mean in terms of ship-on-ship combat. Eve weaponry is supremely destructive, but the near vacuum of space mitigates a lot of damage from any weapon that relies on any sort of non-directed energy. Plasma cools rapidly and disperses, shockwaves are nearly non-existent, etc.
So while antimatter weaponry is attractive in space, where the only matter it is reacting with is it's intended target, in-atmosphere it would be far too volatile, with 1 microgram of the stuff theorhetically annihilating with the energy of 30-40kg of TNT. That's one MICROGRAM. A small antimatter charge fired at a planet from a frigate in orbit? You've just ruined an entire city's day. )) |
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