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Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.27 05:47:00 -
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i stand corrected ... now lets talk about rail gun damage multipliers vs blaster damage multipliers :)
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Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.27 06:01:00 -
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yes yes yes Rusty.. but lets clear up whether Rail guns need actual RAILS, to be classified as a rail gun!
I like to be positive about the DEVs and the game as much as needed, but lets be frank...(puts on fake moustache)... the Forge Gun doesnt have the physical attributes to accurately fire a rail projectile. It lacks epeen inducing Length.
If indeed the FG does possess rails that is. If it doesnt, then it is a Blaster. Which would match the item description. Rail guns afaik dont build a magnetic charge as the rail operate off of a current.
Sure the charge up is to generate the Electrical charge to power the rail, but in no way does that translate into the forward armature locks into position, stabilizing the magnetic fieldlink
sounds like a blaster to meeeee |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.27 06:05:00 -
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Rusty Shallows wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Billi Gene wrote:i stand corrected ... now lets talk about rail gun damage multipliers vs blaster damage multipliers :)
That Is beyond my scope of specialty! Sounds interesting, Billi Gene should start up a thread.
>.< i don't start threads.. i troll them under the guise of benevolence....
damn the gig is up :(
ergo.. EvE= short range higher damage multiplier... long range lower damage multiplier, short and long range weaps in same category use the same ammo.... |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.27 07:02:00 -
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Oswald Rehnquist wrote:Billi Gene wrote:yes yes yes Rusty.. but lets clear up whether Rail guns need actual RAILS, to be classified as a rail gun! I like to be positive about the DEVs and the game as much as needed, but lets be frank...(puts on fake moustache)... the Forge Gun doesnt have the physical attributes to accurately fire a rail projectile. It lacks epeen inducing Length. If indeed the FG does possess rails that is. If it doesnt, then it is a Blaster. Which would match the item description. Rail guns afaik dont build a magnetic charge as the rail operate off of a current. Sure the charge up is to generate the Electrical charge to power the rail, but in no way does that translate into the forward armature locks into position, stabilizing the magnetic fieldlinksounds like a blaster to meeeee Not a blaster, in the slightest, This is not the most difficult concept to grasp, the question is entirely based on the nature of the ammunition Blasters and Rails are hybrid weapons, now why are they both hybrid. 1) Blasters are hybrid because they have physical hallow shells which contain plasma, thus they primarily do thermal damage 2) Rails (which Eve also conflates with coil guns) are weapons that shoot solid slugs at really high speeds, hence rail weapons primarily do kinetic damage The Forge gun shoots solid shells based on the descritpiont, Also the devs shouldn't have to do double work because you guys can't do a little bit of researching, they already addressed the issue of classifying weapons based on weapon systems, just read the dev blogs http://dust514.com/news/blog/2013/07/weapon-ranges-in-uprising-1.2-and-beyond/Edit: I wanted to include this "The power supply must be able to deliver large currents, sustained and controlled over a useful amount of time. The most important gauge of power supply effectiveness is the energy it can deliver. As of December 2010, the greatest known energy used to propel a projectile from a railgun was 33 megajoules.[10] The most common forms of power supplies used in railguns are capacitors and compulsators which are slowly charged from other continuous energy sources. The rails need to withstand enormous repulsive forces during shooting, and these forces will tend to push them apart and away from the projectile. As rail/projectile clearances increase, arcing develops, which causes rapid vaporization and extensive damage to the rail surfaces and the insulator surfaces. This limited some early research railguns to one shot per service interval. The inductance and resistance of the rails and power supply limit the efficiency of a railgun design. Currently different rail shapes and railgun configurations are being tested, most notably by the United States Navy, the Institute for Advanced Technology, and BAE Systems."
yes yes the DEVs (bless their lil hearts!) have classified the FG as a rail gun, but its description describes a process alien to rail gun technology.
1 blasters are hybrid because their ammunition is a metal casing around a plasma core 1.2 then again railguns use the same ammo... so the difference in names must be ... Something Else: Antimatter Charge Small: 7hp kinetic damage, 5hp thermal damage Consists of two components: a shell of titanium and a core of antimatter atoms suspended in plasma state. Railguns launch the shell directly, while particle blasters pump the plasma into a cyclotron and process the plasma into a bolt that is then fired.
-50% optimal range
Iridium Charge Small: 4 kinetic damage 3 thermal Consists of two components: a shell of titanium and a core of iridium atoms suspended in plasma state. Railguns launch the shell directly, while particle blasters pump the plasma into a cyclotron and process the plasma into a bolt that is then fired.
20% increased optimal range. 24% reduced capacitor need.
among many others, all hybrid ammo does varying ratio's of kinetic and thermal damage.
Light Ion Blaster 1 Particle blasters operate on a similar principle as the railgun except they fire a magnetically contained ball of subatomic particles. No other turret class can match the sheer destructive power of particle blasters, but due to the rapid dispersion of the containment field, it also has the worst range of all turrets.
Requires hybrid charge types: Antimatter, Iridium, Iron, Lead, Plutonium, Thorium, Tungsten, Uranium.
150mm Railgun 1 This is a standard long-range railgun designed for frigates. Railguns use magnetic rails to fire solid chunks of matter at hypersonic speed. The accurate range of railguns is very good, but due to technical limitations it cannot use onboard guidance. This results in a fairly rapid drop in accuracy at extreme ranges.
Requires hybrid charge types: Antimatter, Iridium, Iron, Lead, Plutonium, Thorium, Tungsten, Uranium.
dun mind me too much, at this point i am poking fun at the devs for messing up either the FG's description or its physical attributes. ie: railguns... use rails to couple an armature, then pass a current thru this assembly to create a magnetic field which forces the armature along the rails propelling the payload. The length of the rails is an indicator of the acceleration needed to propel the projectile the desired distance. (hence my poking fun at the size of the FG if it is indeed a railgun)
If the FG is as its ingame description implies, then it is actually a really really scary nasty Blaster. (and in EvE blasters as short range weapons in the smallest size, range from 500m optimal out to 1500falloff ...sound slightly familiar?) |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.27 07:12:00 -
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both these threads been really fun :)... love your work everyone :) |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:31:00 -
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CCP Wolfman wrote:its rail.
lol |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.27 13:39:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:CCP Wolfman wrote:its rail. Then why does a proto Assault FG do more damage than a proto railgun that worth 850k more isk and weighs 10 tons more? It also fires faster because railgun has fire delay... now dont tell me some **** about how the railgun has unlimited ammo... i know that...
cause its gangsta to hip fire.......
:)
[/end_joke] |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.28 08:33:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:A whole post on a question created because someone is too lazy to read.
Read lore. It applies to these questions you all seem to feel a need to ask.
Better yet, don't argue with the people who CAN read. Because they try to give you the answer, but since it doesn't fit in that tiny little box you call a thought, it means the big, poopyhead, meanie literate person was lying to you!
if you'd stop blowing up our mining fleets we'd never think to turn our miners into weapons........ |
Billi Gene
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.28 10:24:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:Billi Gene wrote: if you'd stop blowing up our mining fleets we'd never think to turn our miners into weapons........
Get over it. Those hulks were an eyesore and needed to go.
and i still have 18 payments left on them.... |
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