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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:02:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote::( dude on opposite team took out 3 tanks today... me and my brilliantly fit gunnlogi, and 2 madrugars... This dude also along with that got 21 killes and 0 death. He was Ishyukone Assault Forge gunner. Damn that thing is OP, i tried to get revenge but he took me out easily. he took me out in 4 shots and my slow ass shield tank was to slow to get away. please people and stop using the OP. At least use the ADV Assault version which is less OP but still OP. Man i hate people like this going 21 n 0 using a fking FG!!!
NO
Learn to use your tank
The Forge gunner was OBVIOUSLY ,well placed, protected and with teamwork supporting him repping his armor vs snipers and providing him Ammo.
FGs are not OP. Tankers are whiners |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:06:00 -
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Arcturis Vanguard wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:8213 wrote:Think of it as an expensive learning experience. When you have a PRO Forge Gunner on the other team, stay away from him, and STOP bringing tanks onto the field so he can get fed. I just dont get why the hell every tanker has to run from this god dam beech, he likes fking insta kills our tanks... yes its a very very very ******* expensive tank.. 800k isk, 8mil hard earned sp and i get killed by a guy who spent 1mil sp into his FG and 50k isk on his proto FG takes me down in 8 seconds. we dont even stand a chance, i want to atleast have a chance to get away. First of all I'm going tell you to STFU about sp. When I invested into my AV heavy, spent over 10m SP. FULL PROFICENCY. Why don't you take your ignorant aSS and go add up all the sp with multipliers and do the math to build a basic proto heavy and follow the tree. Add in handheld weaponry (damage mods) and all base skills. Also the suit he used costs more then your 50k statement, which continues to show your ignorance. People like you keeps this game completely unbalanced. When are people going to learn that there are NO prototype vehicles in this build? If CCP is going to keep different tiers, balance need to be done AGAINST equal tiers, otherwise when prototype tanks are released, they will be OP to weapons equal to its tier. The forge gun should not be rebalance until CCP collects live data of prototype vs prototype. Also it sounds like this guy single handedly outsmarted all three of you tankers and they are probably all built pretty bad. I've been up against proper build shields that can take 4 shots without being popped. Also you have a sweet spot. Did you show it?
I did an ALT as a tanker just to see what the big fuzz is about. Im a cowardly tanker, but i go 20 games with 20+ and zero deaths easily.
The ONLY thing i'll give tankers is the fact that you REALLY cant tell where the shots are coming from,there by making too difficult the action of taking cover.
Besides that, thank LLAVs for so many FGunners.
Forge guns have NEVER been modified,and suddenly everybody specs into vehicles and as soon as Specialized AVs appear , Grenades swarms and FG are OP. HTFU with that cra*....
+1 to the mad forge gunner up here |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:07:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote::( dude on opposite team took out 3 tanks today... me and my brilliantly fit gunnlogi, and 2 madrugars... This dude also along with that got 21 killes and 0 death. He was Ishyukone Assault Forge gunner. Damn that thing is OP, i tried to get revenge but he took me out easily. he took me out in 4 shots and my slow ass shield tank was to slow to get away. please people and stop using the OP. At least use the ADV Assault version which is less OP but still OP. Man i hate people like this going 21 n 0 using a fking FG!!! NO
Learn to use your tank
The Forge gunner was OBVIOUSLY ,well placed, protected and with teamwork supporting him repping his armor vs snipers and providing him Ammo.
FGs are not OP. Tankers are whiners FG comes with plenty of Ammo to take down 3-4 tank and it does a lot of fking damage. Also, i assure you, he was alone on a tower.
No its doesnt i use an ASSAULT FORGE GUN with 2 CX DAMAGE MODS and ive shot tanks 4 times in a row and barely take their shields down.
DONT LIE BRO, you are talking with a guy who plays both AV and as a tanker. (10mill tanker 13mill AV) Unless you are a sucky tanker or are using MLT tanks, there is no way a FG will destroy you in less than 3 shots. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:16:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote::( dude on opposite team took out 3 tanks today... me and my brilliantly fit gunnlogi, and 2 madrugars... This dude also along with that got 21 killes and 0 death. He was Ishyukone Assault Forge gunner. Damn that thing is OP, i tried to get revenge but he took me out easily. he took me out in 4 shots and my slow ass shield tank was to slow to get away. please people and stop using the OP. At least use the ADV Assault version which is less OP but still OP. Man i hate people like this going 21 n 0 using a fking FG!!! NO
Learn to use your tank
The Forge gunner was OBVIOUSLY ,well placed, protected and with teamwork supporting him repping his armor vs snipers and providing him Ammo.
FGs are not OP. Tankers are whiners FG comes with plenty of Ammo to take down 3-4 tank and it does a lot of fking damage. Also, i assure you, he was alone on a tower. No its doesnt i use an ASSAULT FORGE GUN with 2 CX DAMAGE MODS and ive shot tanks 4 times in a row and still survive. PLUS, if you take 4 shots in a row you are obviously doing something WRONG DONT LIE BRO, you are talking with a guy who plays both AV and as a tanker. (10mill tanker 13mill AV) Unless you are a sucky tanker or are using MLT tanks, there is no way a FG will destroy you in less than 3 shots. Done lie bro... i have 40% passive resistance... 5535 armor and heavy clarity ward shield booster with 26% recharge from skill bonuses. I got 4 shotted. Its true.
Lies. If after the 1st shot you activate any kind of regenerator the FG wont be able to kill you. The FG does an approx of 6000 DM with 4 shots so : -You are laying wrong since you are obviously going suicidal to places where there is no cover, no one gets hit 4 times in a row with good positioning. -You wait too long to activate your regenerators -Your tank is a little weak for your lack of skill to be quite honest. Mine has 1000 shield 6500 Armor and i can take 4 ASsault FG in a row,if it was the case.
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:21:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Goric Rumis wrote:I'm just happy someone was protecting his team from getting decimated by three tanks. 1 man soloed 3 well fitted 800k isk tanks. and took out 18 people while at it.. seems balanced.
Well' ive taken out Proto suits in 25-2 games with a MLT AR.
Pretty balanced to me too....
ITS CALLED SKILL. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:23:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:
It 4 shotteed my tank... you are a fking armor tanker- your repper is godly, my booster is a piece of ****.
Also he was doing 1800+ damage a shot and he took about 8 seconds... how far can i travel in 8 seconds in a slow shield tank about 1/8th the map... n even if i was in cover... he was above me and in the map i was in their was no cover from targets above you... yes he was smart to get above me but then he took me out in 8 seconds so ... thats pretty OP... dealing over 6700 damage in 8 seconds...
You were in a place where you weren't supposed to be, easy.
Tanks flank, say hi,kill , GT*O....
One does NOT get in a city and prays CCP will Nerf FG so you can do what you want.
BTW if this situation was YESTERDAY,it might have been me,between Prox mines and My Assault/breach Forge gun i went 28-0, took out 3 tanks and 4 LAVs.
Keep getting inside cities bros....This is Infantry area,no vehicles allowed. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:26:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote::( dude on opposite team took out 3 tanks today... me and my brilliantly fit gunnlogi, and 2 madrugars... This dude also along with that got 21 killes and 0 death. He was Ishyukone Assault Forge gunner. Damn that thing is OP, i tried to get revenge but he took me out easily. he took me out in 4 shots and my slow ass shield tank was to slow to get away. please people and stop using the OP. At least use the ADV Assault version which is less OP but still OP. Man i hate people like this going 21 n 0 using a fking FG!!! NO
Learn to use your tank
The Forge gunner was OBVIOUSLY ,well placed, protected and with teamwork supporting him repping his armor vs snipers and providing him Ammo.
FGs are not OP. Tankers are whiners FG comes with plenty of Ammo to take down 3-4 tank and it does a lot of fking damage. Also, i assure you, he was alone on a tower. No its doesnt i use an ASSAULT FORGE GUN with 2 CX DAMAGE MODS and ive shot tanks 4 times in a row and still survive. PLUS, if you take 4 shots in a row you are obviously doing something WRONG DONT LIE BRO, you are talking with a guy who plays both AV and as a tanker. (10mill tanker 13mill AV) Unless you are a sucky tanker or are using MLT tanks, there is no way a FG will destroy you in less than 3 shots. If you were really a tanker, you would know how it feels to go up against Proto ishyukone assault FG
No im not a ''REAL tanker'' As i despise vehicles. I used one of my Alts that's been accumulating SP for a LONG a** time to see what the fuzz is about. NOthing. The only thing i feel is : 1st- Tanks are way too expensive. Price reduction needed. 2nd-Need to know where The Forge gunner is shooting from.
Besides that, i dont rampage inside cities so i barely get killed, always on mountains or near cover so i can back out fast enough,you know,cuz even in real lief a tank can be destroyed by a single AV RPG,so yeah.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:30:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:king Checkmate
man, you are not a tanker and dont lie about it... you dont understand... I suggest you get your OP ass outta hear, i know the prime reason your here, to defend your OP weapon from getting balanced, thank you for your contribution to this OP weapon, i hope you feel good when nobody plays this game because jerks like you take the easy mode.
1st of all. My main weapon, in EVERY LOADAOUT, is my Ishikune SMG.
Im just tired of seeing games getting f*** up by whiners. Happened with MAG and i wont stand by while Vehicle lovers Turn the balance to their favor just because the want it easy.
1-I dont mind if vehicle users leave the game. G*FO 2-The jerks that want it easy mode is Vehicle users that want no weapon to be able to counter them.
I actually think FGs need a BUFF. Nothing should be able to take 3 direct hits from a FG and live... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:36:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:king Checkmate
man, you are not a tanker and dont lie about it... you dont understand... I suggest you get your OP ass outta hear, i know the prime reason your here, to defend your OP weapon from getting balanced, thank you for your contribution to this OP weapon, i hope you feel good when nobody plays this game because jerks like you take the easy mode. 1st of all. My main weapon, in EVERY LOADAOUT, is my Ishikune SMG. Im just tired of seeing games getting f*** up by whiners. Happened with MAG and i wont stand by while Vehicle lovers Turn the balance to their favor just because the want it easy. 1-I dont mind if vehicle users leave the game. G*FO 2-The jerks that want it easy mode is Vehicle users that want no weapon to be able to counter them. I actually think FGs need a BUFF. Nothing should be able to take 3 direct hits from a FG and live... Yep, the typical noob trying to defend his OP weapon...
Yep typical whiner calling noob to the people that own him. What happened CoD servers down or something? |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:47:00 -
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''Dude you just dont get it... you dont get the pain... if you were a tanker and i was the AV guy you would be in my position right now... And i would be in yours. I atleast want to stand a chance but i dont... The reason tanks are hated because people dont spec into Av to put up a fight but when they do they go to a point where they get proto FG and when they get that, its like the FG is the tank with blaster and the tank is just a scout who had beed spotted. In the fight of AV and tanks... The Av is the one harming the tank-the tank doesnt harm AV.''
YOU DONT GET THE PAIN. You dont kno what playing Infantry with NO AV's or MLT avs is when the enemy decides to drop 3 tanks on us and there is NOTHING to do vs those 8000+ EHP Behemoths.They just kill indiscriminately with nothing to stop them. Even while being an AV, if you are not in a GREAT position the tank will pretty much still obliterate you. Yeah even with1200 EHP.
AND NO, maybe i dont ''feel'' your pain,because when im tanking im always behind cover or at bigger distances to actually feel threatened by AV weaponry. The only way i was REALLY scared of using a second tank was when another tanker with Missiles came ll the way to me and i didnt see him and shoot the crap out of me with 4 missile barrages. |
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KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 03:53:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:[quote=Congressman Rex]Cry much? You want to beat a FG? get more than 8 mill sp, first of all, second, try better equip. The ONLY tanks i have not been able to beat is an enforcer tank (when they are properly fit).
Stop crying about being killed with PROTO gear if you cant use proto yourself.
See now I know you're either lying or stupid.
Enforcers are **** and we don't have ******* proto gear. Broke game has Standard Tanks and then offers Prototype counters, what the **** is that?
And even if they are standard it still takes a Lot to take them down. There by, we need MORE POWERFUL AV for when Proto tanks come. |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.26 04:03:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:KING CHECKMATE wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:[quote=Congressman Rex]Cry much? You want to beat a FG? get more than 8 mill sp, first of all, second, try better equip. The ONLY tanks i have not been able to beat is an enforcer tank (when they are properly fit).
Stop crying about being killed with PROTO gear if you cant use proto yourself. See now I know you're either lying or stupid. Enforcers are **** and we don't have ******* proto gear. Broke game has Standard Tanks and then offers Prototype counters, what the **** is that?
And even if they are standard it still takes a Lot to take them down. There by, we need MORE POWERFUL AV for when Proto tanks come. Dude i totally agree about the second part, if we get proto tanks the FG is good but for now its OP against out normal tanks. it takes SD FG about 8-9 shots to kill me thats about 20 seconds, it takes proto Fg about 4 shots , 8 seconds to kill me. Now here we have a 2x improvement from basic to proto. A proto AR does 37.5 dmg and basic does 34. here we have a very small improvement. The improvement from basic to proto in FG is far to great.
I agree,but the problem is the RPICING on the tanks not the DAMAGE. 4 RAILGUN shots to take down a tank seem good to me TBQH. I mean i use to 1shot kill Tanks with a JAvelin in BF3 and no one complained. Why? Because they had USEFUL MODS:
Smoke screens that deflected missile lockons FOR example, etcetc.... |
KING CHECKMATE
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Posted - 2013.08.28 21:50:00 -
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Got in a game:
Tanker 1; NINJAROBOT something brings down a tank. Tanker 2, Frost Byte bring another tank.
Enemy team HAD proto Forge gunners (since i got killed by both a Kaalakiota Forge gun and Ishikune assault froge gun)
Ninjarobot goes 36-0 Frost byte goes 15-0
Im gonna be honest after seeing hese 2 tankers completly dominate that game i feel even stronger about my opinion. Tanks are good , people just rush to death with them.
After that game I HAD to play vs these two tankers and even with my Proto Forge guns i could not kill a single one of them. They hid pretty well and ran behind their friendlies so i could not follow them. We actually got redlined in that game and every time the tank was about -+ EHP he would hide and regen, and there was NOTHING i coult do about it. He got shot 3 times with a Proto Assault FG and then he hid. Im pretty sure i still needed at leas 2-3 shots more to destroy him....
So again, tankers CAN be pretty powerful, with the right caution and right fittings.... |
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