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Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 471	Posted - 2013.08.25 17:57:00 - [1] - Quote The win-loss ratio should be 25%, because with the rampant, infectious stupidity of blue dots, the odds I'll win my matches are literally 1 in 10. Just lost a domination because as soon as we took A first, the enemy team swooped in and stole it, and my team offered literally no resistance, and didn't try to push for it at all.
Reav Hannari Red Rock Outriders 1032	Posted - 2013.08.25 17:59:00 - [2] - Quote Nice of them to set the requirements at less than 50%. You could literally flip a coin for a week and win. I can't wait until the events team has actual tools built into the game. Making up stuff without the ability to actually do much must be a complete pain.
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 191	Posted - 2013.08.25 18:03:00 - [3] - Quote What I find odd is the requirement to earn 100 WP to count the win/loss If you took the challenge seriously then you wouldn't want to hack or kill 2 ppl before deciding whether to quit or not.. Strange direction to go to promote 'team play' especially since we can't chose who/how useful 2/3'ds of our force will be
Csikszent Mihalyi DUST University Ivy League 79	Posted - 2013.08.25 18:07:00 - [4] - Quote You do realise that the other team has blue dots too? Your chance to be seeded into a team with a squad in it are only marginally lower than to be seeded against a team with a squad in it. If you literally win 1 in 10, you are either extremely unlucky or an extreme liability to your team. If you really care about the rewards, just withdraw from battles where the squads are stacked against you.
Csikszent Mihalyi DUST University Ivy League 79	Posted - 2013.08.25 18:09:00 - [5] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: What I find odd is the requirement to earn 100 WP to count the win/loss If you took the challenge seriously then you wouldn't want to hack or kill 2 ppl before deciding whether to quit or not.. Strange direction to go to promote 'team play' especially since we can't chose who/how useful 2/3'ds of our force will be It doesn't really matter. You can easily bail out of losing battles to win the challenge, it will just take more time. The real purpose of the challenge of course is to get more people playing.
Iron Wolf Saber Den of Swords 7742	Posted - 2013.08.25 18:12:00 - [6] - Quote Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: What I find odd is the requirement to earn 100 WP to count the win/loss If you took the challenge seriously then you wouldn't want to hack or kill 2 ppl before deciding whether to quit or not.. Strange direction to go to promote 'team play' especially since we can't chose who/how useful 2/3'ds of our force will be It doesn't really matter. You can easily bail out of losing battles to win the challenge, it will just take more time. The real purpose of the challenge of course is to get more people playing. I would wish people would stop spreading the word that not getting 100 wp doesn't count against total battles. All fights are counted against you unless you win and get 100 wp.
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 471	Posted - 2013.08.25 18:13:00 - [7] - Quote Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: If you really care about the rewards, just withdraw from battles where the squads are stacked against you. Not applicable though, because what looks like randoms on the other team could be some decent squads, and even if they only have one squad of 4, your team could literally be so bad that they can't do anything at all, and they don't have the brains to think "oh, maybe we should form squads."
Spkr4theDead International-Fleet 471	Posted - 2013.08.25 18:14:00 - [8] - Quote Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: You do realise that the other team has blue dots too? Your chance to be seeded into a team with a squad in it are only marginally lower than to be seeded against a team with a squad in it. If you literally win 1 in 10, you are either extremely unlucky or an extreme liability to your team. If you really care about the rewards, just withdraw from battles where the squads are stacked against you. I could rail snipe, which isn't a liability. Unlucky though, yes, I agree with that wholeheartedly.
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 191	Posted - 2013.08.25 18:16:00 - [9] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: What I find odd is the requirement to earn 100 WP to count the win/loss If you took the challenge seriously then you wouldn't want to hack or kill 2 ppl before deciding whether to quit or not.. Strange direction to go to promote 'team play' especially since we can't chose who/how useful 2/3'ds of our force will be It doesn't really matter. You can easily bail out of losing battles to win the challenge, it will just take more time. The real purpose of the challenge of course is to get more people playing. I would wish people would stop spreading the word that not getting 100 wp doesn't count against total battles. All fights are counted against you unless you win and get 100 wp. My apaolgies Great Iron Wolf Saber, I'm just a humble grunt and don't really care about the awards. I just wanna fight.
Dante Vento Firefly Shipping co. 19	Posted - 2013.08.25 19:16:00 - [10] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: What I find odd is the requirement to earn 100 WP to count the win/loss If you took the challenge seriously then you wouldn't want to hack or kill 2 ppl before deciding whether to quit or not.. Strange direction to go to promote 'team play' especially since we can't chose who/how useful 2/3'ds of our force will be It doesn't really matter. You can easily bail out of losing battles to win the challenge, it will just take more time. The real purpose of the challenge of course is to get more people playing. I would wish people would stop spreading the word that not getting 100 wp doesn't count against total battles. All fights are counted against you unless you win and get 100 wp. Link please. It wasn't stated in the Dev Blog and I've only ever seen you say it, so can you please share a link to where that is said?

RKKR The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine 332	Posted - 2013.08.25 19:25:00 - [11] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: What I find odd is the requirement to earn 100 WP to count the win/loss If you took the challenge seriously then you wouldn't want to hack or kill 2 ppl before deciding whether to quit or not.. Strange direction to go to promote 'team play' especially since we can't chose who/how useful 2/3'ds of our force will be It doesn't really matter. You can easily bail out of losing battles to win the challenge, it will just take more time. The real purpose of the challenge of course is to get more people playing. I would wish people would stop spreading the word that not getting 100 wp doesn't count against total battles. All fights are counted against you unless you win and get 100 wp. Really?. We need a blue tag please.
Aleksander Black Immortal Retribution 36	Posted - 2013.08.25 19:40:00 - [12] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: What I find odd is the requirement to earn 100 WP to count the win/loss If you took the challenge seriously then you wouldn't want to hack or kill 2 ppl before deciding whether to quit or not.. Strange direction to go to promote 'team play' especially since we can't chose who/how useful 2/3'ds of our force will be It doesn't really matter. You can easily bail out of losing battles to win the challenge, it will just take more time. The real purpose of the challenge of course is to get more people playing. I would wish people would stop spreading the word that not getting 100 wp doesn't count against total battles. All fights are counted against you unless you win and get 100 wp. This... should have been made clearer earlier. If this is true, which I do not doubt, I'm sure now that I've played all those matches for nothing. And this sucks. **, so much lost time. ... With the event people really started pushing for the win. Since I've played most of my matches alone it didn't take long for me to stack so many losses, despite making everything that I could, that I couldn't afford to lose anymore. So I resorted to waiting until making sure I was in the winning side before making 100 WP, from reading the rules I got the impression that his would work. Turns out it doesnt, and I've played well after my cap for *** nothing. Over... what 60 matches, 70? ... But ok, I got it. I'm a bad liability in my team and I deserve nothing. Ok, I'm cool. I'm pissed off, but I'm cool. I think. . I'm either not giving a about this event next week, which isn't very wise because the other team will likely give a and I'll have another week having my ass handed to me in which case I'd rather not play and lose my first cap in a good time than not really having fun with those ***** blueberries or I'm just hitting the field with a full squad and top gear I can use. I'm still deciding, 50/50, but man am I pissed.
Shadow Of-Chaos Club Midnight 35	Posted - 2013.08.25 19:50:00 - [13] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: What I find odd is the requirement to earn 100 WP to count the win/loss If you took the challenge seriously then you wouldn't want to hack or kill 2 ppl before deciding whether to quit or not.. Strange direction to go to promote 'team play' especially since we can't chose who/how useful 2/3'ds of our force will be It doesn't really matter. You can easily bail out of losing battles to win the challenge, it will just take more time. The real purpose of the challenge of course is to get more people playing. I would wish people would stop spreading the word that not getting 100 wp doesn't count against total battles. All fights are counted against you unless you win and get 100 wp. oh hai IWS, still spreading those bullshit lies? https://forums.dust514.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=103936&p=3 i believe this will answer your questions.
Tank Missile Intara Direct Action Caldari State 0	Posted - 2013.08.25 20:03:00 - [14] - Quote Hey there Spkr! I'm that guy you were running over with your tank behind the redline. And I was on your team. Not that I really care, the pockets of my main are more than deep enough to fund this character, but the reason I decided to throw this out on your thread is because: I don't think you are allowed to talk about bluedot stupidity when you, yourself, act twice as stupid.
Aleksander Black Immortal Retribution 36	Posted - 2013.08.25 20:03:00 - [15] - Quote Thing is, if the event rules are as described in the Dev Blog then I'm cool. But I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't, this loophole everyone found shouldn't really exist in the first place and I wouldn't mind it. What fucks with me is making me believe that it is possible, thus making me hold my gun till middle of the match or simply accepting defeat without knowing I should be fighting. I believe IWS, I believe I'm screwed, why not? Now I just want someone to ******* edit that DEV BLOG and correct that. And maybe, just maybe, if my items are there in the Wednesday... It's still a headache that could have been avoided. But they won't be, right? Hope for the worst, do not get disappointed when it happens.
Maken Tosch DUST University Ivy League 3740	Posted - 2013.08.25 20:04:00 - [16] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: The win-loss ratio should be 25%, because with the rampant, infectious stupidity of blue dots, the odds I'll win my matches are literally 1 in 10. Just lost a domination because as soon as we took A first, the enemy team swooped in and stole it, and my team offered literally no resistance, and didn't try to push for it at all. On what data do you base this one?
Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 955	Posted - 2013.08.25 22:13:00 - [17] - Quote Iron Wolf Saber wrote: Csikszent Mihalyi wrote: broonfondle majikthies wrote: What I find odd is the requirement to earn 100 WP to count the win/loss If you took the challenge seriously then you wouldn't want to hack or kill 2 ppl before deciding whether to quit or not.. Strange direction to go to promote 'team play' especially since we can't chose who/how useful 2/3'ds of our force will be It doesn't really matter. You can easily bail out of losing battles to win the challenge, it will just take more time. The real purpose of the challenge of course is to get more people playing. I would wish people would stop spreading the word that not getting 100 wp doesn't count against total battles. All fights are counted against you unless you win and get 100 wp. So all battles are counted against you and wins are only counted if you get more than 100 wp? Seems a bit crap, especially if you dare to run solo you can join a match in time for a screen saying defeat.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. League of Infamy 666	Posted - 2013.08.25 22:19:00 - [18] - Quote 100wp is stupidly easy to get. That is only 2 kills, 4 assists, 2 non-letter hacks, or one letter hack. Heck you can get it by resupplying 10 team mates, repping, or any number of ridiculously easy things. Not only is this challenge easy, yep less than 50% wins is easy, but it should be a no brainer for pretty much everyone. If you can't get into a squad, and have a large enough impact on the game to only win half of the time than perhaps you need to rethink your gaming methodology. Heck in school 59.9% is failing. That means that CCP is saying that we will count people who are performing at below a failing standard as successfull. That is ludicrisly simple and you're going to complain about it. Really? Really? Instead of moaning about how you're too poor of a player to fail at a game (remember you're saying that winning half the time is too hard) perhaps you could invest the calories you would are using to type here on the forum and actually play the game. You'll get better if you play but your endless QQ will benefit no one, yourself included.
HYENAKILLER X TEAM SHINOBI 221	Posted - 2013.08.25 22:27:00 - [19] - Quote Its definitely a hard challeng. Ide stck to ambush and find a really good squad.
low genius the sound of freedom Renegade Alliance 358	Posted - 2013.08.25 22:28:00 - [20] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: The win-loss ratio should be 25%, because with the rampant, infectious stupidity of blue dots, the odds I'll win my matches are literally 1 in 10. Just lost a domination because as soon as we took A first, the enemy team swooped in and stole it, and my team offered literally no resistance, and didn't try to push for it at all. you're supposed to not run solo.

Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3147	Posted - 2013.08.25 22:53:00 - [21] - Quote Not just that- people leave the battle when they're losing, so, more often than not, I join a battle that we're already losing.
Csikszent Mihalyi DUST University Ivy League 81	Posted - 2013.08.25 23:46:00 - [22] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Not just that- people leave the battle when they're losing, so, more often than not, I join a battle that we're already losing. Yeah, those are the ones I'm most likely to dodge... That's just stupid.


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