I think the isk argument is a silly one as well.. after all a Monet can fetch in the hundreds of millions of dollars, and it can't tank a pocket knife.

I really do not like this idea of moaning about a generic portion of the player base "top 30 kills and No death's", when any good player can achieve such stats, and that merely jumping into a tank will not suddenly allow such a performance. My tanker alt sits at around 4mil SP and has once gone 35/x, and that was in a domination with only a single focus point, and only because the pub blueberries rallied and protected my tank, we reversed a loss (i got angry at the LLAV spam and dropped my SR :P).

Taking out a "decent tanker" doesn't take much. If two full squads changed to AV gear to take out a tank, then they probably shouldn't be surprised at losing objectives. Mind if i ask why it took 15 minutes to take the tank out? Surely you don't want us to believe you were hitting the tank for 15 minutes with AV weapons? That would be "beyond belief".


>.< i don't know how CCP can fix the situation, but i am trying to argue both sides where i feel its necessary. This toon started off as an AV, and i have a mild HAV pilot alt. I want both play styles to be viable. What i don't agree with is the amount of hyperbole and utter outright lies that people are touting as truths in order to satisfy whatever directive drives them to such callous and ultimately childish behaviour, which lessens the breadth of the game, as well as the possible play styles and thus limits player interaction with the game.... maybe some of us should go look at the first games we had with computers...

"you can move this paddle up and down the screen and bounce this dot back and forth!!!"

"move side to side shooting blobs as they slowly move towards you!!!"

immersive interaction is the massive drawcard that games have nowadays. Limiting a games possible breadth because of prejudice should be a cardinal gamer crime, punishable by the removal of ones thumbs :P.

I just had an awesome idea.

Increase the costs of dropsuits 10 fold.

Proto suits at 1mil isk
Adv suits at 500k
Standard at 250k

And let's scale weapons proportionately.

Look I don't mind getting my tank pushed back in battle but in no way do I think we are OP. That is insane. Yeah you see a tank go 30 and 0, best game the dude has probably had all night. AND there probably isn't going to be another for him. With the amount of Av and power there is just no way.

Not to mention my couple of PC games. Tanks were rendered useless by 2 guys with forge guns and 2 swarmers. Not even a full squad to make 3 tanks useless.

I think a lot of this comes from people seeing a tank not die. Yeah that is 4 to 5 matches I have to play without making a loss to pay for that thing. Sorry but yeah, my **** costs way more and to even operate it, I have to play it safe.

Clearly you don't pay attention when the tank goes 10-0 or 3-0. That omg it wont die tank, yeah proto swarms and one proto forge gunner. Melts tanks into gooo.

No, I don't have to be invincible, but I would like it if my tank was able to simply survive the whole match because some matches, I'm rendered completely useless and just sit up in the hill rail sniping. Come play at tanks with us tankers, lose 10 or so tanks and tell me it isn't expensive, or it requires no skill to go 20 -0. I dare you...

Tanks are already halfway to invincible. Yesterday my friend and I were playing a match and there were a couple of Gunnlogis. My friend put proxy mines on the bridge at Alpha. One of the tanks ran over his mines, then he threw three prototype av grenades at it, AND hit it with CBR7 swarms and that all barely left a dent in it.