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Calroon DeVil
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:21:00 -
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You already have a loyal fanbase of ~5.000 people logging in regular, more or less. Once again you approach one of the many issues the wrong way.
Are you really unable to improve and learn, months into the game? I'm getting scared here. 1.4 is a huge bust it seems (again).
That Dev blog makes my eyes bleed >_> |
jingle wingle
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
19
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:23:00 -
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CCP gives out bonus SP, and you manage to find something to whine about.
Extraordinarily mind-boggling persistence in playing the victim there. |
Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:24:00 -
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Everything about this game is a bust, but at least their bribing them to clock in...I mean "Play" rather than punishing them for not doing it.
And I would say...About 4500 dedicated players, less if you count the AFKers.
This game is as dead as Planetside 2. |
ContraBanJoe
Planetary Response Organization Test Friends Please Ignore
233
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:26:00 -
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Who are you all, and what have you done with my cat? |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1152
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:26:00 -
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Calroon DeVil wrote:You already have a loyal fanbase of ~5.000 people logging in regular, more or less. Once again you approach one of the many issues the wrong way.
Are you really unable to improve and learn, months into the game? I'm getting scared here. 1.4 is a huge bust it seems (again).
That Dev blog makes my eyes bleed >_>
OMG just **** off and go away, nothing is 1.4 is move in the wrong direction you just trolling and proably didnt even read it please get off our forums your not welcome here. |
Denak Kalamari
Intaki Liberation Front Intaki Prosperity Initiative
367
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:29:00 -
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Leave it to the DUST 514 general discussion to find something negative about daily login rewards. |
Calroon DeVil
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:29:00 -
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You feel like waiting 10 years again before Dust turns into something playable, like EVE needed? Then yea, that daily login bonus SP will be huge down the road. Good that it is there, but it's wasted dev time in terms of fixing the core game that is so behind anything 2013.
Aiming overhauled the what, 5th time? Great. Matchmaking yet again. Balancing while not even all suits are in is hilarious within itself.
Uh but wait, I'm going to stop here. The CPM kicking their ass a couple days back should keep them busy enough. |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
509
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:30:00 -
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Yet another person in desperate need of being hit repeatedly in face with a maths textbook...
An average of 3-4K concurrent users implies an actual active player base of anywhere from 60-100k, not a raging success, but not a total failure or 'dead' game either.
Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. |
Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:34:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Yet another person in desperate need of being hit repeatedly in face with a maths textbook...
An average of 3-4K concurrent users implies an actual active player base of anywhere from 60-100k, not a raging success, but not a total failure or 'dead' game either.
Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played.
Your logic would be an argument for why PS2 isn't dead as well. Great, then I'll just use your logic to refute that point next I hear it. (I still hate PS2)
And the fact that they have to bribe people to come to wor--Er...Play their game is hilarious, especially a game they can't balance or fix all--Or any--Of the bugs for. Wow...I wonder what the Icelandic word for garbage is...Dust? |
jingle wingle
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:34:00 -
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Calroon DeVil wrote:You feel like waiting 10 years again before Dust turns into something playable, like EVE needed? Then yea, that daily login bonus SP will be huge down the road. Good that it is there, but it's wasted dev time in terms of fixing the core game that is so behind anything 2013.
Aiming overhauled the what, 5th time? Great. Matchmaking yet again. Balancing while not even all suits are in is hilarious within itself.
Uh but wait, I'm going to stop here. The CPM kicking their ass a couple days back should keep them busy enough. You're actually literally re-tarded. |
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Panther Alpha
DarkWingsss
922
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:35:00 -
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Obviously you haven't read the full blog.. or to be precise you haven't look at the "Pictures" carefully. Still... we should all wait to see the release notes, that blog doesn't give any "specifics".
So... when can we see the Release Notes CCP ? |
Calroon DeVil
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:35:00 -
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Play more often how? Login Logout ??? Profit
Yea Dust 514 is not a raging success, we all know that. Same reason they weren't allowed to visit gamescom 2013. ETA soonGäó 2023. Can't blame them. Who'd want to do marketing on this.
It's amazing how people go from 1.1 to 1.2 to 1.3 to 1.4 and always keep going, waiting for the "miracle patch". Same deal with us pointing out the obviously wrong. See how that works out for any of us? |
Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
280
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:36:00 -
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Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Yet another person in desperate need of being hit repeatedly in face with a maths textbook...
An average of 3-4K concurrent users implies an actual active player base of anywhere from 60-100k, not a raging success, but not a total failure or 'dead' game either.
Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. Your logic would be an argument for why PS2 isn't dead as well. Great, then I'll just use your logic to refute that point next I hear it. (I still hate PS2) And the fact that they have to bribe people to come to wor--Er...Play their game is hilarious, especially a game they can't balance or fix all--Or any--Of the bugs for. Wow...I wonder what the Icelandic word for garbage is...Dust?
I just want to point out, since you're one of these people who want to 'cross pollinate' our community with PS2 drivel... Planetside 2 has had this XP bonus style thing since launch for premium accounts. The longer you pay a subscription, the more bonuses you get.
At least here you're rewarded just for playing, instead of paying.
Edit: Quoted the wrong person but whatever, you're all smart people and can work it out. :) |
hooc order
Deep Space Republic Top Men.
867
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:36:00 -
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Quote:That Dev blog makes my eyes bleed >_>
To be honest i had the same problem and skipped over that bit about bonus SP.
Are we still getting passive SP at the same rate without logging in?
If anyone could answer that question in plain English that does not make my eyes bleed that would be great. |
jingle wingle
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
20
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:38:00 -
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Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Yet another person in desperate need of being hit repeatedly in face with a maths textbook...
An average of 3-4K concurrent users implies an actual active player base of anywhere from 60-100k, not a raging success, but not a total failure or 'dead' game either.
Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. Your logic would be an argument for why PS2 isn't dead as well. Great, then I'll just use your logic to refute that point next I hear it. (I still hate PS2) And the fact that they have to bribe people to come to wor--Er...Play their game is hilarious, especially a game they can't balance or fix all--Or any--Of the bugs for. Wow...I wonder what the Icelandic word for garbage is...Dust? This is why we can't have nice things. |
Calroon DeVil
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
114
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:38:00 -
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Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Wow...I wonder what the Icelandic word for garbage is...Dust? Owww man, that was a low-blow - but I had to smile nontheless. |
Calroon DeVil
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:39:00 -
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hooc order wrote:Quote:That Dev blog makes my eyes bleed >_> To be honest i had the same problem and skipped over that bit about bonus SP. Are we still getting passive SP at the same rate without logging in? If anyone could answer that question in plain English that does not make my eyes bleed that would be great. Nothing about passive SP will change, so yea. This is additional SP.
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Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:39:00 -
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Vallud Eadesso wrote:Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Yet another person in desperate need of being hit repeatedly in face with a maths textbook...
An average of 3-4K concurrent users implies an actual active player base of anywhere from 60-100k, not a raging success, but not a total failure or 'dead' game either.
Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. Your logic would be an argument for why PS2 isn't dead as well. Great, then I'll just use your logic to refute that point next I hear it. (I still hate PS2) And the fact that they have to bribe people to come to wor--Er...Play their game is hilarious, especially a game they can't balance or fix all--Or any--Of the bugs for. Wow...I wonder what the Icelandic word for garbage is...Dust? I just want to point out, since you're one of these people who want to 'cross pollinate' our community with PS2 drivel... Planetside 2 has had this XP bonus style thing since launch for premium accounts. The longer you pay a subscription, the more bonuses you get. At least here you're rewarded just for playing, instead of paying. Edit: Quoted the wrong person but whatever, you're all smart people and can work it out. :)
*Looks at the part of my post, clarifying that I hate Planetside.* *Looks at my earlier post claiming Planetside is dead.* *Looks at my history of posts denouncing Planetside.*
Uh...Huh...
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Vallud Eadesso
Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
281
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:41:00 -
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Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Vallud Eadesso wrote:Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Yet another person in desperate need of being hit repeatedly in face with a maths textbook...
An average of 3-4K concurrent users implies an actual active player base of anywhere from 60-100k, not a raging success, but not a total failure or 'dead' game either.
Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. Your logic would be an argument for why PS2 isn't dead as well. Great, then I'll just use your logic to refute that point next I hear it. (I still hate PS2) And the fact that they have to bribe people to come to wor--Er...Play their game is hilarious, especially a game they can't balance or fix all--Or any--Of the bugs for. Wow...I wonder what the Icelandic word for garbage is...Dust? I just want to point out, since you're one of these people who want to 'cross pollinate' our community with PS2 drivel... Planetside 2 has had this XP bonus style thing since launch for premium accounts. The longer you pay a subscription, the more bonuses you get. At least here you're rewarded just for playing, instead of paying. Edit: Quoted the wrong person but whatever, you're all smart people and can work it out. :) *Looks at the part of my post, clarifying that I hate Planetside.* *Looks at my earlier post claiming Planetside is dead.* *Looks at my history of posts denouncing Planetside.* Uh...Huh...
Read the edit: Misquoted you :P I got over eager in my nerd rage and hit quote on the wrong post, and then got far too lazy to fix it. |
Raymundo Kagestad V
Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation
22
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Posted - 2013.08.23 09:44:00 -
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jingle wingle wrote:Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Yet another person in desperate need of being hit repeatedly in face with a maths textbook...
An average of 3-4K concurrent users implies an actual active player base of anywhere from 60-100k, not a raging success, but not a total failure or 'dead' game either.
Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. Your logic would be an argument for why PS2 isn't dead as well. Great, then I'll just use your logic to refute that point next I hear it. (I still hate PS2) And the fact that they have to bribe people to come to wor--Er...Play their game is hilarious, especially a game they can't balance or fix all--Or any--Of the bugs for. Wow...I wonder what the Icelandic word for garbage is...Dust? This is why we can't have nice things.
Nice things? You mean like decent aiming, all the suits, a real connection to EVE, more game modes (Cookie cutter or not), the "MMO" part of MMOFPSRPG, a lack of memory leaks, FPS drops, lag, broken balance, or...You know maybe some matchmaking, commander mode, PVE, Skirmish 1.0, all the vehicles, vehicle balance and once again: all the dropsuits. |
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Calroon DeVil
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2013.08.23 10:08:00 -
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HTFU CCP. Pull the game, redo it. SE | FFXIV showed you how it's done.
Grow a pair. |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
232
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Posted - 2013.08.23 10:09:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played.
Umm no? The daily bonus will get people to log in then log out like a job.
All that programming effort could have been used to develop some form of bonus that COMES FROM PLAYING THE GAME. Example: In game achievements: +100 SP for hacking 5 objectives in a match, +100 SP for each 3-killstreak, hell, anything but more passive stupidity. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
193
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Posted - 2013.08.23 10:12:00 -
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not really |
Calroon DeVil
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
116
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Posted - 2013.08.23 10:17:00 -
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Yea really. Browser games use the same mechanic in conjunction with their shops. **shocker** |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
509
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Posted - 2013.08.23 10:45:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. Umm no? The daily bonus will get people to log in then log out like a job. All that programming effort could have been used to develop some form of bonus that COMES FROM PLAYING THE GAME. Example: In game achievements: +100 SP for hacking 5 objectives in a match, +100 SP for each 3-killstreak, hell, anything but more passive stupidity. Yes some people will just log in and out, but others will play a few matches, sort of a 'well while I'm here...' thing.
And every time achievements and the like have been brought up they have been shot down with the exact same argument. FORCING PEOPLE TO PLAY THE GAME CERTAIN WAYS IS BAD M'KAY. |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
119
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Posted - 2013.08.23 10:58:00 -
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Raymundo Kagestad V wrote:Everything about this game is a bust, but at least their bribing them to clock in...I mean "Play" rather than punishing them for not doing it.
And I would say...About 4500 dedicated players, less if you don't count the AFKers.
This game is as dead as Planetside 2. I thought PS2 was fine, and doing ever better with the new continent and battle islands, i still cant wait to play it |
KGB Sleep
Ikomari-Onu Enforcement Caldari State
77
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:03:00 -
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Calroon DeVil wrote:You already have a loyal fanbase of ~5.000 people logging in regular, more or less. Once again you approach one of the many issues the wrong way.
Are you really unable to improve and learn, months into the game? I'm getting scared here. 1.4 is a huge bust it seems (again).
That Dev blog makes my eyes bleed >_>
What? This is an awesome feature. Plenty of ppl will play more. i don't usually play during the first half of the week but i'll play at least one game every day because of it.
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Coleman Gray
GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention
516
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:04:00 -
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Lol, why is 1.4 a bust? you not even seen it yet the Dev Blog is just pointing out some new editions lol |
steadyhand amarr
Imperfects Negative-Feedback
1155
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:08:00 -
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well if 1.4. has done anything it has shown who trolls are and made my blocking shortlist and lot easier to build.
remember select their name hide post for nomore IQ damaging idot posts :) |
demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
120
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:08:00 -
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Calroon DeVil wrote:You feel like waiting 10 years again before Dust turns into something playable, like EVE needed? Then yea, that daily login bonus SP will be huge down the road. Good that it is there, but it's wasted dev time in terms of fixing the core game that is so behind anything 2013.
Aiming overhauled the what, 5th time? Great. Matchmaking yet again. Balancing while not even all suits are in is hilarious within itself.
Uh but wait, I'm going to stop here. The CPM kicking their ass a couple days back should keep them busy enough. Whats the point in having new content if it wont work properly? "**** yea new minmatar heavy!!! - ??? i cant hit anything!! - IM TURNING TO ******* SLOW" thats pretty much exactly what would happen As far as i see it this game is still in alpha until ALL the bugs and glitches are fixed, and it will be in beta until every racial varient is released - this doesnt mean up to proto level but all standard tier gear should be released for EVERY racial suit/weapon before a few get proto tier Really they should just put the game back into closed beta ( or even alpha ) so the current population can actually help and then just release dust as a proper PS4 game |
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demonkiller 12
Seraphim Auxiliaries
120
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:11:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Yet another person in desperate need of being hit repeatedly in face with a maths textbook...
An average of 3-4K concurrent users implies an actual active player base of anywhere from 60-100k, not a raging success, but not a total failure or 'dead' game either.
Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. I dont think the active player base is even over 20k players, on another note im going to loging each of my alts each day for that sweet weekly bonus of 31,500 SP |
GRIM GEAR
The Enclave Syndicate Dark Taboo
9
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:22:00 -
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I'm not to sure about new players though I can guarantee you will get more sp |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:27:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. Umm no? The daily bonus will get people to log in then log out like a job. All that programming effort could have been used to develop some form of bonus that COMES FROM PLAYING THE GAME. Example: In game achievements: +100 SP for hacking 5 objectives in a match, +100 SP for each 3-killstreak, hell, anything but more passive stupidity. Yes some people will just log in and out, but others will play a few matches, sort of a 'well while I'm here...' thing. And every time achievements and the like have been brought up they have been shot down with the exact same argument. FORCING PEOPLE TO PLAY THE GAME CERTAIN WAYS IS BAD M'KAY.
F'ing seriously? As in forcing them to not AFK is a bad thing? That is just insane.
Achievements are a tried and true, tested psychological mechanism in like just about every modern game. Just because some EVEtard cries about it isn't a reason to not use them. |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
511
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:43:00 -
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demonkiller 12 wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Yet another person in desperate need of being hit repeatedly in face with a maths textbook...
An average of 3-4K concurrent users implies an actual active player base of anywhere from 60-100k, not a raging success, but not a total failure or 'dead' game either.
Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. I dont think the active player base is even over 20k players, on another note im going to loging each of my alts each day for that sweet weekly bonus of 31,500 SP You're suggesting that these 20k players play for 4-5 hours a day, every day, in perfect shifts with no overlap.
No, I'm reasonably certain that isn't the case. |
Ryder Azorria
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
511
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:51:00 -
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Shion Typhon wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Shion Typhon wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. Umm no? The daily bonus will get people to log in then log out like a job. All that programming effort could have been used to develop some form of bonus that COMES FROM PLAYING THE GAME. Example: In game achievements: +100 SP for hacking 5 objectives in a match, +100 SP for each 3-killstreak, hell, anything but more passive stupidity. Yes some people will just log in and out, but others will play a few matches, sort of a 'well while I'm here...' thing. And every time achievements and the like have been brought up they have been shot down with the exact same argument. FORCING PEOPLE TO PLAY THE GAME CERTAIN WAYS IS BAD M'KAY. F'ing seriously? As in forcing them to not AFK is a bad thing? That is just insane. Achievements are a tried and true, tested psychological mechanism in like just about every modern game. Just because some EVEtard cries about it isn't a reason to not use them. Not afking is ofc a good thing, but forcing a sniper (a good one, not a redlining SoB) to cap a bunch of objectives to get his SP, or a dedicated medic to go on a murderous rampage? Not so much.
You can have commendations tied to different play styles, that would actually be pretty useful for ranking players by profession, but don't tie them to SP, or trophies, or anything that's required to 'complete' the game. |
CrotchGrab 360
High-Damage
201
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:52:00 -
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This isn't some solution, it's a small addition.
Why are people going "well this is going to fix DUST isn't it?".
it's a reward. not one which I'll be able to take advantage of as I don't have time to play but come on people, recognise a good thing when it hits you in the face.
Anyway what date will 1.4 be issued? |
Shion Typhon
Intara Direct Action Caldari State
234
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Posted - 2013.08.23 11:55:00 -
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Ryder Azorria wrote:demonkiller 12 wrote:Ryder Azorria wrote:Yet another person in desperate need of being hit repeatedly in face with a maths textbook...
An average of 3-4K concurrent users implies an actual active player base of anywhere from 60-100k, not a raging success, but not a total failure or 'dead' game either.
Also, that daily bonus probably will get people playing more often - even if it is just a couple of matches in a day they wouldn't have played. I dont think the active player base is even over 20k players, on another note im going to loging each of my alts each day for that sweet weekly bonus of 31,500 SP You're suggesting that these 20k players play for 4-5 hours a day, every day, in perfect shifts with no overlap. No, I'm reasonably certain that isn't the case.
For most online games I have seen the multiplier can be as low as 10x or as high as 20-25x. Dust's true active player numbers could be anywhere between 30k and 125k which is quite a spread. Only CCP really know. |
RejectedUsername
The Southern Legion
15
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Posted - 2013.08.23 12:19:00 -
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Calroon DeVil wrote:You already have a loyal fanbase of ~5.000 people logging in regular, more or less. Once again you approach one of the many issues the wrong way.
Are you really unable to improve and learn, months into the game? I'm getting scared here. 1.4 is a huge bust it seems (again).
That Dev blog makes my eyes bleed >_> What don't you like about it? |
jingle wingle
Edimmu Warfighters Gallente Federation
44
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Posted - 2013.08.23 14:50:00 -
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RejectedUsername wrote:Calroon DeVil wrote:You already have a loyal fanbase of ~5.000 people logging in regular, more or less. Once again you approach one of the many issues the wrong way.
Are you really unable to improve and learn, months into the game? I'm getting scared here. 1.4 is a huge bust it seems (again).
That Dev blog makes my eyes bleed >_> What don't you like about it? The WORDS!!! They blind me!!! |
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