DUST Search - A serious question to all drivers and pilots

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Exmaple Core wrote:

KING CHECKMATE wrote:

Heathen Bastard wrote:

Honestly? they were fun to use pre-uprising. not OP, but not weak either, they were just about right. so after realizing the playing a scout was not going to pan out I petitioned for the respec that was being offered, then specced into tanks. I have been regretting it ever since, thanks to the massive nerfs they received.

AHAHAHAHHA NOT OP.

There were people going 45-0 in those things and they csouldn't get those same scores as infantry.

NOT OP. PLEEEEEEEEEAse,,,,

OP i'll tell you why:
Tanks, To get easy kills
Dropships, to show some skill

There.

They werent really OP, i averaged 30/3 as infaintry in chrome per game. There was no teamwork in adv or proto AV in chrome, it just dident happen. That was a tankers dream, no competent AV working together, the irony was they needed to work together to take down adv tanks. They jus dident do it, it was great. But lets be honest checkmate, tanks should stop being soloed by individuals when were getting out of standard hulls. Adv tanks should require more than one person

Yeah YOU averaged 30-3, meaning if you were a tanker you would have gone 45+ to 0.
Im saying this dudes going over 40 per game were worthless with a gun proving the Tank was a Lot better than Infantry , there by , broken.

Another point made by you, yeah before you didnt have people playing as a team with AV. Now i play commando and pack a ADV swarm launcher and go around with a buddy with a Forge gun. We see a tank I shoot first then he shoots a second or two later ,so the FG hits and intermediately the swarms. Then he shoots once more ant take out the tank if it doesn't have more than 5000 EHP , and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, then we have the tanker in THESE forums asking for a nerf on FG, just because he cant understand he was getting shot by organized duo of AV ers....

''ut lets be honest checkmate, tanks should stop being soloed by individuals when were getting out of standard hulls. Adv tanks should require more than one person''

I agree with this to a certain degree.
Look. If a TANK is in a place where he is NOT supposed to be, like deep in a city and he gets blown up by a Forge gunner that threw him 2-3 ADV-PROTO nades and then r4ped him with a Assault forge gun i agree with the forge gunner. He should have the capacity to destroy the tank,because if the team sacrifices a lot of infantry into AV then the rest of the enemy team will win because they have better Anti-infantry equipment.

I do agree that at med-long range (150+ mts) A tank shouldnt be able to die by a single Proto specialist.
But who does?
Im telling you, im a sucky tanker and i never get killed by a single AV infantry , or 2 or 3 (unless i risk it into a city where AV nades and Swarms will make short of me)
I play sneaky and never get out of my comfort zone.

Im telling you. i DO NOT think tanks are UP, maybe a little, but the buffs people ask in these forums are just way too much.
Im telling you this because i DO have MLT tanks on my main (AV specialist), and a 10 mill sp tanker on my alt.

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echo47 Sebiestor Field Sappers Minmatar Republic 42	Posted - 2013.08.23 02:57:00 - [1] - Quote What is it or was it about tanks or dropships that made you want to spec into them? As someone who occasionaly plays in an AV fit from start to finish, I would liketo have a better understanding of why you all feel the tools for me to fullfil my role should be nerfed. My AV grenades and proto swam launcher are sometimes the only thing keeping vehicle users alert and not allowing them to play in god mode all match. I refuse to be that guy that shoots an assault rifle a tank or lav then comes to the forum and ask for nerf. So, I like many others, not being as mobile as we all were in chromosome, skilled into AV. I died a lot while learning to handle tanks and LAV's so I could enjoy the game without being run over, or constantly forced to retreat due to a tank being on the field and I am still learning. So what is the origin of your passion for tanks or lav's?
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 575	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:01:00 - [2] - Quote Honestly? they were fun to use pre-uprising. not OP, but not weak either, they were just about right. so after realizing the playing a scout was not going to pan out I petitioned for the respec that was being offered, then specced into tanks. I have been regretting it ever since, thanks to the massive nerfs they received.
X-eon Molon Labe. League of Infamy 26	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:02:00 - [3] - Quote The ability to provide full support with a LLAV to both infantry and Vehicles. Spider repping tanks has helped me in more matches than I can remember to victory. The tank going 20+/0 and me going 0/0-4/0
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 885	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:02:00 - [4] - Quote echo47 wrote: What is it or was it about tanks or dropships that made you want to spec into them? As someone who occasionaly plays in an AV fit from start to finish, I would liketo have a better understanding of why you all feel the tools for me to fullfil my role should be nerfed. My AV grenades and proto swam launcher are sometimes the only thing keeping vehicle users alert and not allowing them to play in god mode all match. I refuse to be that guy that shoots an assault rifle a tank or lav then comes to the forum and ask for nerf. So, I like many others, not being as mobile as we all were in chromosome, skilled into AV. I died a lot while learning to handle tanks and LAV's so I could enjoy the game without being run over, or constantly forced to retreat due to a tank being on the field and I am still learning. So what is the origin of your passion for tanks or lav's? These things suck, and they suck hard. Their not fun and their more of a chore, if anything. Sadly it is a necessary chore, because they do indeed suck but their not quite completely worthless. very close to it but sadly their jus, just "strong" enough to kill infantry and they cant kill you back. They stop ppl from taking your objectives and claim enemy objectives in PC if you can work with your team to remove the AV. They do work, they barely work but they do, so they are in demand. The only reason i speced into tanks, and i suspect others as well, was because my team needed a tank driver for PC. I was also under the guise that tanks could be decent still, having the ability to respec into them just after chromosome... when tanks were good
Serimos Haeraven Deep Space Republic Top Men. 427	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:02:00 - [5] - Quote Knowing that I could probably start to learn to really fly those dropships and do insane stunts while also being able to help my team is what made me go spec into dropships a pretty long while ago back in Chromosome. Even though all I could do was fly logi's since there were no assault dropships yet, it taught me how to play for the team really well and I was already extremely good at flying immediately when the assault was released. I enjoy being the underdog as a dropships pilot even though we are still treated pretty harshly by CCP. But that's what made me want to be a dropship pilot, imagining taking down countless amounts of other pilots in dogfights, hauling ass flying only 2 feet above the ground, and dodging forge guns while they whizz by me are all reasons why I wanted to be a pilot, and in my experiences flying I can say that I have been able to fulfill all of that and more, it has been insanely fun being a proto logi and assault dropship pilot.
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 885	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:02:00 - [6] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly? they were fun to use pre-uprising. not OP, but not weak either, they were just about right. so after realizing the playing a scout was not going to pan out I petitioned for the respec that was being offered, then specced into tanks. I have been regretting it ever since, thanks to the massive nerfs they received. you & me both bby
Flix Keptick Red Star. EoN. 43	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:04:00 - [7] - Quote I got in tanks because they offer a different gaming experience, its almost like playing a different game (gameplay wise).
TheAmazing FlyingPig Crux Special Tasks Group Gallente Federation 2882	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:07:00 - [8] - Quote I love my tank because its mere presence on the battlefield influences the fits and tactics used on the other team. For every swarm and forge that gets drawn to take me down, that's one less anti-infantry weapon being fielded, making everyone else's job easier.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 613	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:13:00 - [9] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly? they were fun to use pre-uprising. not OP, but not weak either, they were just about right. so after realizing the playing a scout was not going to pan out I petitioned for the respec that was being offered, then specced into tanks. I have been regretting it ever since, thanks to the massive nerfs they received. AHAHAHAHHA NOT OP. There were people going 45-0 in those things and they csouldn't get those same scores as infantry. NOT OP. PLEEEEEEEEEAse,,,, OP i'll tell you why: Tanks, To get easy kills Dropships, to show some skill There.
grunt party Carbon 7 CRONOS. 18	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:18:00 - [10] - Quote its because we don't have proto vehicles yet, yet you have proto av a little bit unfair

KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 614	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:21:00 - [11] - Quote grunt party wrote: its because we don't have proto vehicles yet, yet you have proto av a little bit unfair dont worry, even With Proto AV, some vehicles are indestructible. A well placed tank with 7000+ EHP is almost impossible to bring down if he has cover. Of course , what you tankers want is to be able to get in a city, eat some prox mines, a couple of FGuns , Some Swarm launchers and still be able to bail. Get out of here. Positioning IS -+ of the battle for tanks, as for it is for Swarm launchers and Forge guns.... LLAVs are fast enough so they will never get hit twice by ANY AV weapon, unless you stink at this game. I would say PROTO tanks are not EVEN NEEDED, and i insist if they DO come,they should cost a LOT more,same as Proto AV and PROTO dropsuits cost. About 10 mill a proto tank? yeah have fun with that. Dude i go 25-0 in a MLT tank i dont know whats the whining, or either people just QQ for the Lulz or they are just bad tank drivers...
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 885	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:28:00 - [12] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly? they were fun to use pre-uprising. not OP, but not weak either, they were just about right. so after realizing the playing a scout was not going to pan out I petitioned for the respec that was being offered, then specced into tanks. I have been regretting it ever since, thanks to the massive nerfs they received. AHAHAHAHHA NOT OP. There were people going 45-0 in those things and they csouldn't get those same scores as infantry. NOT OP. PLEEEEEEEEEAse,,,, OP i'll tell you why: Tanks, To get easy kills Dropships, to show some skill There. They werent really OP, i averaged 30/3 as infaintry in chrome per game. There was no teamwork in adv or proto AV in chrome, it just dident happen. That was a tankers dream, no competent AV working together, the irony was they needed to work together to take down adv tanks. They jus dident do it, it was great. But lets be honest checkmate, tanks should stop being soloed by individuals when were getting out of standard hulls. Adv tanks should require more than one person
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 501	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:32:00 - [13] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: grunt party wrote: its because we don't have proto vehicles yet, yet you have proto av a little bit unfair dont worry, even With Proto AV, some vehicles are indestructible. A well placed tank with 7000+ EHP is almost impossible to bring down if he has cover. Of course , what you tankers want is to be able to get in a city, eat some prox mines, a couple of FGuns , Some Swarm launchers and still be able to bail. Get out of here. Positioning IS -+ of the battle for tanks, as for it is for Swarm launchers and Forge guns.... LLAVs are fast enough so they will never get hit twice by ANY AV weapon, unless you stink at this game. I would say PROTO tanks are not EVEN NEEDED, and i insist if they DO come,they should cost a LOT more,same as Proto AV and PROTO dropsuits cost. About 10 mill a proto tank? yeah have fun with that. Dude i go 25-0 in a MLT tank i dont know whats the whining, or either people just QQ for the Lulz or they are just bad tank drivers... Actually, we want to take more than just 4 shots before dying with 7k eHP with a Heavy rep and light rep wth max vehicle skills. But you wouldn't understand that since you don't have both AV and vehicles at PROTO yet. And for the last comment about a mlt HAV going 25/0, there had to be absolutely 0 AV on the field, or a ****** mlt FG or swarmer here and there. Be quiet.
Heathen Bastard Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 575	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:33:00 - [14] - Quote before, soloing a tank took some solid work, a bit of luck, and being smart enough to get the drop on them. now? lock lolinvisible swarms/drop nanohive and spam massively OP AV nades and they can't run unless they're a railtank in a mountain. Dead tank, braindead AV.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 501	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:34:00 - [15] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly? they were fun to use pre-uprising. not OP, but not weak either, they were just about right. so after realizing the playing a scout was not going to pan out I petitioned for the respec that was being offered, then specced into tanks. I have been regretting it ever since, thanks to the massive nerfs they received. AHAHAHAHHA NOT OP. There were people going 45-0 in those things and they csouldn't get those same scores as infantry. NOT OP. PLEEEEEEEEEAse,,,, OP i'll tell you why: Tanks, To get easy kills Dropships, to show some skill There. I've seen people go higher than that with just a scrambler pistol in a scout suit. Hell, I've done that. Blam! found a way to nerf skill, making the good pilots suffer. I used to make a profit being a pilot every game; now, that's almost impossible.
Xender17 Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 485	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:35:00 - [16] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly? they were fun to use pre-uprising. not OP, but not weak either, they were just about right. so after realizing the playing a scout was not going to pan out I petitioned for the respec that was being offered, then specced into tanks. I have been regretting it ever since, thanks to the massive nerfs they received. AHAHAHAHHA NOT OP. There were people going 45-0 in those things and they csouldn't get those same scores as infantry. NOT OP. PLEEEEEEEEEAse,,,, OP i'll tell you why: Tanks, To get easy kills Dropships, to show some skill There. I've only gone of 30 kills twice and i'm sure most tankers haven't gone above 35. People always talk about tanks going above 40 kills all the time. They almost never do. There would have to be no AV in an entire match and no idiots that think a HAV wouldn't be in streets. If it were Ambush the HAV would need a sucky team. If it were Skirmish/Dom the AVers would have to be idiots not to pull out AV. We gain NO isk bonus for being in HAVs. If a team of proto AV went against a team of the best HAVs possible who do you think would win. There is max of 6-7(?) HAVs aloud in a match. Versus 16 proto AV. Who da hell do you think would win? Back to topic. I chose HAVs because I've always like the heaviest classes in games. (I also have always loved vehicles in games) (Though I also probably like stealth more ) I chose the Gunnlogi in particular because of its supposed speed advantage... (lies) I <3 shields 2
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 501	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:37:00 - [17] - Quote Heathen Bastard wrote: before, soloing a tank took some solid work, a bit of luck, and being smart enough to get the drop on them. now? lock lolinvisible swarms/drop nanohive and spam massively OP AV nades and they can't run unless they're a railtank in a mountain. Dead tank, braindead AV. Basically this. When someone was able to solo me, I said gg bro. I know a couple of guys who were able to, but they had a hard time doing it, and took all their skill, then some luck. I had to try and stay alive as well. It was a blast. Now? It's so easy to solo vehicles it's sad.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 501	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:39:00 - [18] - Quote Xender17 wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly? they were fun to use pre-uprising. not OP, but not weak either, they were just about right. so after realizing the playing a scout was not going to pan out I petitioned for the respec that was being offered, then specced into tanks. I have been regretting it ever since, thanks to the massive nerfs they received. AHAHAHAHHA NOT OP. There were people going 45-0 in those things and they csouldn't get those same scores as infantry. NOT OP. PLEEEEEEEEEAse,,,, OP i'll tell you why: Tanks, To get easy kills Dropships, to show some skill There. I've only gone of 30 kills twice and i'm sure most tankers haven't gone above 35. People always talk about tanks going above 40 kills all the time. They almost never do. There would have to be no AV in an entire match and no idiots that think a HAV wouldn't be in streets. If it were Ambush the HAV would need a sucky team. If it were Skirmish/Dom the AVers would have to be idots not to pull out AV. We gain NO isk bonus for being in HAVs. If a team of proto AV went against a team of the best HAVs possible who do you think would win. There is max of 6-7(?) HAVs aloud in a match. Versus 16 proto AV. Who da hell do you think would win? Back to topic. I chose HAVs because I've always like the heaviest classes in games. (I also have always loved vehicles in games) (Though I also probably like stealth more ) I chose the Gunnlogi in particular because of its supposed speed advantage... (lies) I <3 shields 2 If you played EVE, or knows the lore, you would know the Gunnlogi's were supposed to be slower. Anyways, If you like stealth, wait for the Kubera and Chakram to return.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 501	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:42:00 - [19] - Quote I chose to be a pilot, because I like being that guy who just rips through **** in heavy armor, burning through cities, hillsides, forests, etc. Going as fast as possible, and dishing out tons of damage, or if need be, parking it behind my boys letting them move up by giving them covering fire.
KING CHECKMATE Bragian Order Amarr Empire 614	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:46:00 - [20] - Quote Exmaple Core wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly? they were fun to use pre-uprising. not OP, but not weak either, they were just about right. so after realizing the playing a scout was not going to pan out I petitioned for the respec that was being offered, then specced into tanks. I have been regretting it ever since, thanks to the massive nerfs they received. AHAHAHAHHA NOT OP. There were people going 45-0 in those things and they csouldn't get those same scores as infantry. NOT OP. PLEEEEEEEEEAse,,,, OP i'll tell you why: Tanks, To get easy kills Dropships, to show some skill There. They werent really OP, i averaged 30/3 as infaintry in chrome per game. There was no teamwork in adv or proto AV in chrome, it just dident happen. That was a tankers dream, no competent AV working together, the irony was they needed to work together to take down adv tanks. They jus dident do it, it was great. But lets be honest checkmate, tanks should stop being soloed by individuals when were getting out of standard hulls. Adv tanks should require more than one person Yeah YOU averaged 30-3, meaning if you were a tanker you would have gone 45+ to 0. Im saying this dudes going over 40 per game were worthless with a gun proving the Tank was a Lot better than Infantry , there by , broken. Another point made by you, yeah before you didnt have people playing as a team with AV. Now i play commando and pack a ADV swarm launcher and go around with a buddy with a Forge gun. We see a tank I shoot first then he shoots a second or two later ,so the FG hits and intermediately the swarms. Then he shoots once more ant take out the tank if it doesn't have more than 5000 EHP , and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, then we have the tanker in THESE forums asking for a nerf on FG, just because he cant understand he was getting shot by organized duo of AV ers.... ''ut lets be honest checkmate, tanks should stop being soloed by individuals when were getting out of standard hulls. Adv tanks should require more than one person'' I agree with this to a certain degree. Look. If a TANK is in a place where he is NOT supposed to be, like deep in a city and he gets blown up by a Forge gunner that threw him 2-3 ADV-PROTO nades and then r4ped him with a Assault forge gun i agree with the forge gunner. He should have the capacity to destroy the tank,because if the team sacrifices a lot of infantry into AV then the rest of the enemy team will win because they have better Anti-infantry equipment. I do agree that at med-long range (150+ mts) A tank shouldnt be able to die by a single Proto specialist. But who does? Im telling you, im a sucky tanker and i never get killed by a single AV infantry , or 2 or 3 (unless i risk it into a city where AV nades and Swarms will make short of me) I play sneaky and never get out of my comfort zone. Im telling you. i DO NOT think tanks are UP, maybe a little, but the buffs people ask in these forums are just way too much. Im telling you this because i DO have MLT tanks on my main (AV specialist), and a 10 mill sp tanker on my alt.

Alan-Ibn-Xuan Al-Alasabe Planetary Response Organisation 412	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:55:00 - [21] - Quote I went with vehicles because first person shooters bore me. I went with dropships because I like playing the support role.
Vulpes Dolosus Neanderthal Nation 37	Posted - 2013.08.23 03:59:00 - [22] - Quote I like flying and driving around (not too much into tanks) and I feel that I can support my squad/team with this niche.
Void Echo Echo Galactic Industries 976	Posted - 2013.08.23 04:05:00 - [23] - Quote because its different from the boring old shooting ** that all fps have, if I want another game that I only have an ar in, il just go back to COD or some **.
Exmaple Core Ancient Exiles 888	Posted - 2013.08.23 04:24:00 - [24] - Quote KING CHECKMATE wrote: Exmaple Core wrote: KING CHECKMATE wrote: Heathen Bastard wrote: Honestly? they were fun to use pre-uprising. not OP, but not weak either, they were just about right. so after realizing the playing a scout was not going to pan out I petitioned for the respec that was being offered, then specced into tanks. I have been regretting it ever since, thanks to the massive nerfs they received. AHAHAHAHHA NOT OP. There were people going 45-0 in those things and they csouldn't get those same scores as infantry. NOT OP. PLEEEEEEEEEAse,,,, OP i'll tell you why: Tanks, To get easy kills Dropships, to show some skill There. They werent really OP, i averaged 30/3 as infaintry in chrome per game. There was no teamwork in adv or proto AV in chrome, it just dident happen. That was a tankers dream, no competent AV working together, the irony was they needed to work together to take down adv tanks. They jus dident do it, it was great. But lets be honest checkmate, tanks should stop being soloed by individuals when were getting out of standard hulls. Adv tanks should require more than one person Yeah YOU averaged 30-3, meaning if you were a tanker you would have gone 45+ to 0. Im saying this dudes going over 40 per game were worthless with a gun proving the Tank was a Lot better than Infantry , there by , broken. Another point made by you, yeah before you didnt have people playing as a team with AV. Now i play commando and pack a ADV swarm launcher and go around with a buddy with a Forge gun. We see a tank I shoot first then he shoots a second or two later ,so the FG hits and intermediately the swarms. Then he shoots once more ant take out the tank if it doesn't have more than 5000 EHP , and BELIEVE IT OR NOT, then we have the tanker in THESE forums asking for a nerf on FG, just because he cant understand he was getting shot by organized duo of AV ers.... ''ut lets be honest checkmate, tanks should stop being soloed by individuals when were getting out of standard hulls. Adv tanks should require more than one person'' I agree with this to a certain degree. Look. If a TANK is in a place where he is NOT supposed to be, like deep in a city and he gets blown up by a Forge gunner that threw him 2-3 ADV-PROTO nades and then r4ped him with a Assault forge gun i agree with the forge gunner. He should have the capacity to destroy the tank,because if the team sacrifices a lot of infantry into AV then the rest of the enemy team will win because they have better Anti-infantry equipment. I do agree that at med-long range (150+ mts) A tank shouldnt be able to die by a single Proto specialist. But who does? Im telling you, im a sucky tanker and i never get killed by a single AV infantry , or 2 or 3 (unless i risk it into a city where AV nades and Swarms will make short of me) I play sneaky and never get out of my comfort zone. Im telling you. i DO NOT think tanks are UP, maybe a little, but the buffs people ask in these forums are just way too much. Im telling you this because i DO have MLT tanks on my main (AV specialist), and a 10 mill sp tanker on my alt. I respect your claims as an AV player, you really understand tankers need to play tactical to survive and to travel in AV teams to get the job done. But at the same time your a MLT tanker, you have to work with the smarter tanks pilots here on the forums so things can get done. Mostly only the veteran tankers are left because tanks are jus poop this build, more than just alittle. Their garbage, the risk/reward isent worth it anymore, theres not way to make profit if your a full speced tanker in pubs.
IMMORTAL WAR HERO Ill Omens 7	Posted - 2013.08.23 04:27:00 - [25] - Quote I got 47 killstreak in ambush 3 kills not mine that's why u use tanks.....buuuut it needs to not be a fail fit


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