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xLT Green Damage Core corp. The Superpowers 23	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:28:00 - [1] - Quote What could the combat rifle do that the AR and scrambler rifle can't already. Except damage type there can't be that much of a difference to any AR or scrambler rifle. What's your take
Disturbingly Bored The Strontium Asylum 495	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:30:00 - [2] - Quote xLT Green wrote: What could the combat rifle do that the AR and scrambler rifle can't already. Except damage type there can't be that much of a difference to any AR or scrambler rifle. What's your take Well...damage type. And who knows if it'll have some funky alt fire or not?
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 2030	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:34:00 - [3] - Quote xLT Green wrote: What could the combat rifle do that the AR and scrambler rifle can't already. Except damage type there can't be that much of a difference to any AR or scrambler rifle. What's your take Standard issue combat rifle is supposedly Burst. Tech-wise, it was listed as short-medium range I believe (vs. the Short of the AR). So, you'd have a burst-firing rifle with longer range than an AR (though slightly I guess, considering the Scrambler is supposed to be longer range than the AR AND Combat Rifle tech, and isn't in all cases). The damage type would be like an SMG I guess, strong against armor. Will people have a reason to "switch"? Ehh... because of how the skill system is in this game, I can't imagine leveling a combat rifle to proficiency 5 would be worthwhile for anyone already heavily invested in ARs (most players).
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 692	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:36:00 - [4] - Quote Its the Racial Burst Rifle. Just how the ScR is the Racial Tactical Rifle. And the Rail Rifle is going to be the Racial Breach Rifle. That what the new guns are going to do.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3088	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:36:00 - [5] - Quote Minmatar weapons are beast- and projectile is the best damage type. 95% shield damage, 110% armor damage, longer range than plasma weapons, while not being awkward in CQC like lasers and rails.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1549	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:38:00 - [6] - Quote Rumor has it it will fire differently.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1748	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:38:00 - [7] - Quote Dude... go play COD for a few days. they have like 20 variants of the same exact weapon with minor tweaks to each stat and yet every weapon feels completely different. By the end of it, we will have 16 different rifles (4 variants x 4 races) and I can gaurantee they will all feel a little different. Variety is the spice of life. Not to mention, armor vs shield bonuses is enough on its own to distinguish these weapons from each other.
Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 495	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:38:00 - [8] - Quote Well, it's going to be a high ROF CQ burst Rifle, and will do projectile damage instead of plasma damage.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:40:00 - [9] - Quote Once all racial rifles are introduced the current AR will be put in its correct place as a short range, high ROF weapon to meet gallente standards. CCP have said the current iteration is only place holder until this is implemented.
Hellkeizer The Avutora Complex 31	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:42:00 - [10] - Quote All I can say is, can't wait for the assault variant

Aizen Intiki Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 495	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:45:00 - [11] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Once all racial rifles are introduced the current AR will be put in its correct place as a short range, high ROF weapon to meet gallente standards. CCP have said the current iteration is only place holder until this is implemented. I wonder why the Tac. isn't gone yet........
Meeko Fent Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State 692	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:47:00 - [12] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Once all racial rifles are introduced the current AR will be put in its correct place as a short range, high ROF weapon to meet gallente standards. CCP have said the current iteration is only place holder until this is implemented. Really? I like that idea. Shortening the Gals Plasma Rifle Range
Vin Vicious Capital Acquisitions LLC 285	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:51:00 - [13] - Quote Meeko Fent wrote: Its the Racial Burst Rifle. Just how the ScR is the Racial Tactical Rifle. And the Rail Rifle is going to be the Racial Breach Rifle. That what the new guns are going to do. Which makes no sense Pretty sure it's gunna be combat rifle=breach Rail rifle= burst Rails are long range Auto cannons are short
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 0	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:56:00 - [14] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Once all racial rifles are introduced the current AR will be put in its correct place as a short range, high ROF weapon to meet gallente standards. CCP have said the current iteration is only place holder until this is implemented. I wonder why the Tac. isn't gone yet........ Because taking them out one at a time is inefficent terms of code, besides who say they have to remove it? Just modifying to be inline with other plasma weaponry would be sufficent.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1749	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:58:00 - [15] - Quote Vin Vicious wrote: Meeko Fent wrote: Its the Racial Burst Rifle. Just how the ScR is the Racial Tactical Rifle. And the Rail Rifle is going to be the Racial Breach Rifle. That what the new guns are going to do. Which makes no sense Pretty sure it's gunna be combat rifle=breach Rail rifle= burst Rails are long range Auto cannons are short Remnant has already confirmed the rail rifle will act like a breach rifle and combat rifle will act like a burst rifle. However.. the rail rifle will be a long range breach rifle. It seems like of backwards doesn't it? but oh well, whatever. I just want new toys at this point.
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1753	Posted - 2013.08.22 20:59:00 - [16] - Quote Monkey MAC wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Once all racial rifles are introduced the current AR will be put in its correct place as a short range, high ROF weapon to meet gallente standards. CCP have said the current iteration is only place holder until this is implemented. I wonder why the Tac. isn't gone yet........ Because taking them out one at a time is inefficent terms of code, besides who say they have to remove it? Just modifying to be inline with other plasma weaponry would be sufficent. Remnant has already confirmed he wants all 4 variants of all 4 racial weapons. While that is always subject to change, that is the last we've heard on racial variants of the rifles.
CommanderBolt A.N.O.N.Y.M.O.U.S. 197	Posted - 2013.08.22 21:04:00 - [17] - Quote Aizen Intiki wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Once all racial rifles are introduced the current AR will be put in its correct place as a short range, high ROF weapon to meet gallente standards. CCP have said the current iteration is only place holder until this is implemented. I wonder why the Tac. isn't gone yet........ CCP did say that all of the variants will stay in, so the TAC rifle is Gallentes attempt to make something like the scrambler rifle. Gallente rifles as I believe CCP wants them: Standard AR = Gallente TAC AR - Gallentes attempt at scrambler Breach AR - Gallentes attempt at a caldari railrifle Burst AR - Gallentes attempt at a minmatar combat rifle. And as far as I am aware, all of the other races will try to do the same too. Making their own variant of the 4 rifle types. Obviously each race will excel in one type.
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1395	Posted - 2013.08.22 21:05:00 - [18] - Quote xLT Green wrote: What could the combat rifle do that the AR and scrambler rifle can't already. Except damage type there can't be that much of a difference to any AR or scrambler rifle. What's your take The Point of the combat rifle is not to be a new type of gun its just to be a different type of AR.
Mamertine Son R.E.B.E.L.S 218	Posted - 2013.08.22 21:08:00 - [19] - Quote xLT Green wrote: What could the combat rifle do that the AR and scrambler rifle can't already. Except damage type there can't be that much of a difference to any AR or scrambler rifle. What's your take I really don't care, I just want a new gun. If you look at games like CoD, BF, they all have about dozens of different guns that I'm pretty sure only vary in a couple of points of damage/range and for me that's ok bc I'm pretty shallow when it comes to weapon variation. Just give me new stuff to shoot with.
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 1	Posted - 2013.08.22 21:13:00 - [20] - Quote CommanderBolt wrote: Aizen Intiki wrote: Monkey MAC wrote: Once all racial rifles are introduced the current AR will be put in its correct place as a short range, high ROF weapon to meet gallente standards. CCP have said the current iteration is only place holder until this is implemented. I wonder why the Tac. isn't gone yet........ CCP did say that all of the variants will stay in, so the TAC rifle is Gallentes attempt to make something like the scrambler rifle. Gallente rifles as I believe CCP wants them: Standard AR = Gallente TAC AR - Gallentes attempt at scrambler Breach AR - Gallentes attempt at a caldari railrifle Burst AR - Gallentes attempt at a minmatar combat rifle. And as far as I am aware, all of the other races will try to do the same too. Making their own variant of the 4 rifle types. Obviously each race will excel in one type. Indeed, that way Rifles will maintain their flexibility for a fraction of SP required for the niche weapons

Amarrian Desperado Tal-Romon Legion Amarr Empire 39	Posted - 2013.08.22 21:17:00 - [21] - Quote derp post read thread wrong
xLT Green Damage Core corp. The Superpowers 23	Posted - 2013.08.22 21:45:00 - [22] - Quote Ok I see its just a race thing ok that makes sense. O and for the record i have placed COD and I also lost a part of my soul while playing it how can you make the same game over and over. COD is for ratards that hate dust
Monkey MAC killer taxi company General Tso's Alliance 5	Posted - 2013.08.22 21:57:00 - [23] - Quote xLT Green wrote: Ok I see its just a race thing ok that makes sense. O and for the record i have placed COD and I also lost a part of my soul while playing it how can you make the same game over and over. COD is for ratards that hate dust Meh the easiness of an auto shotgun can be satisfying sometimes
Beren Hurin The Vanguardians 1175	Posted - 2013.08.22 22:06:00 - [24] - Quote I could see the combat AR getting a short spool up time, with a medium low dispersion at hip fire and a rather smooth falloff outside of its generous optimal of 40m ish reaching effectively to 100m at 30% or something.


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