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SILVERBACK 02
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
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Posted - 2013.08.22 17:49:00 -
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SKILL RESPEC FOR
updates-;
1.5
2.0
2.5
3.0
I'm making a guesstimation here that we will be complete at 3.0 and anything after will be EXPANSION PACKS
so a mandatory skill respec every quarterly would be great thank you, until that set date where aurum for respec becomes a feature.
there is no possible reason i can think of why we cant have them, if you would like to explain.. or give me one yes thats right all you need to do is find ONE single viable, justifiable reason why elite players and new players cant have a skill respec feel free to share it.
regards
-silverback |
Absolute Idiom II
No Free Pass
478
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Posted - 2013.08.22 18:14:00 -
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I can't think of a reason that you'd request:
a) MULTIPLE respecs
b) respecs based on version releases and not when certain criteria are met.
I can only see a justification for a full optional respec once ALL suits and weapon lines are fully released. And then no more. Ever. |
Smooth Assassin
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
47
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Posted - 2013.08.22 18:17:00 -
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Don't be hating bro |
DRaven DeMort
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
41
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Posted - 2013.08.22 18:45:00 -
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No more respec! you wanted the flavor of the patch live with it  |
Vespasian Andendare
Subsonic Synthesis
Alpha Wolf Pack
130
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Posted - 2013.08.22 20:14:00 -
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DRaven DeMort wrote:No more respec! you wanted the flavor of the patch live with it The only reasonable argument I can make for a respec is once every dropsuit, weapon, etc. is released in the game. Then, everyone would be able to see the whole package, see what appeals to them, and spec into that accordingly. Anything short of this, though, and I don't think it makes sense.
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Lynn Beck
Granite Mercenary Division
121
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Posted - 2013.08.22 20:34:00 -
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^this. In addition to militia variants of every weapon. I want a mlt flaylock, along with lazor riffle. |
DRaven DeMort
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2013.08.22 21:05:00 -
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Vespasian Andendare wrote:DRaven DeMort wrote:No more respec! you wanted the flavor of the patch live with it The only reasonable argument I can make for a respec is once every dropsuit, weapon, etc. is released in the game. Then, everyone would be able to see the whole package, see what appeals to them, and spec into that accordingly. Anything short of this, though, and I don't think it makes sense.
I think they call that option militia gear, so that you can try out the different types of armor suits, weapon systems, and vehicle classes; giving you the opportunity to try everything out before you spend any skill points on something you might not really like.
This was done to help people spec into something they might enjoy playing as, and or doing. Instead people have, by experience on the battlefield, or word of mouth spec-ed into what I like to call the flavor of the patch. Flay-locks, Mass-drivers, some Rifles, Caldari Loggi suits, and Forge-guns to give some examples.
So now with fixes for these issues on the horizon we are starting to hear the cries of those try-hards who have by fault of their own spec-ed into O.P weapons begging for a respec.
You guys knew that these weapons/suits were O.P and decided to spec into them anyways because they were O.P and it gave you an advantage! Now the prospect that you wasted all that S.P spec-ing into something that you really donGÇÖt like doing, but only liked because it got you up on the leaderboard with lots of S.P scares you.
Well no re-spec is coming so HTFU and live with your mistakes, red-liners too be be weary your days are numbered.
DRaven out! |
Niuvo
The Phoenix Federation
382
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Posted - 2013.08.22 21:08:00 -
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Once everything is out, a respec will be fine. After that, what ever new comes up, you'll have to skill into. That's how I see it. |
DRaven DeMort
Kinsho Swords
Caldari State
42
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Posted - 2013.08.22 21:52:00 -
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Niuvo wrote:Once everything is out, a respec will be fine. After that, what ever new comes up, you'll have to skill into. That's how I see it.
HTFU and live with your mistake. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
611
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Posted - 2013.08.22 22:01:00 -
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SILVERBACK 02 wrote:SKILL RESPEC FOR
updates-;
1.5
2.0
2.5
3.0
I'm making a guesstimation here that we will be complete at 3.0 and anything after will be EXPANSION PACKS
so a mandatory skill respec every quarterly would be great thank you, until that set date where aurum for respec becomes a feature.
there is no possible reason i can think of why we cant have them, if you would like to explain.. or give me one yes thats right all you need to do is find ONE single viable, justifiable reason why elite players and new players cant have a skill respec feel free to share it.
regards
-silverback
+1
We need Respecs if this game is to survive.
The longer it takes, the less players CCP will have to work with in the future. |
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CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
173
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Posted - 2013.08.23 00:58:00 -
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why dont we give u a reset instead!
where u lose everything u have had in sp! |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
496
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:03:00 -
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Mediums don't need a respec. Only light and heavy frames need one, as well as vehicles, because of racial ****. Maybe even specific weapons as well. (racial pistols, racial rifles, etc.) |
KalOfTheRathi
Black Phoenix Mercenaries
579
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:12:00 -
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Not gonna happen.
Full respecs are actually something that I would hesitate to support.
Okay, on reflection just now, I don't support full respecs.
I do support repects When Any Skill Tree Sub Branch Is Modified.
Those should be automatic or available In Game. Not some lame Ruby script on the server weeks after the event.
The reason for the limitations is the Fit Of The Moment tendency in many FPS games. I have never liked it so I see no reason to support it now. Borderlands supports that but it is not massive multiplayer. Just single player and co-op. It is fine in that context. |
KING CHECKMATE
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
612
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:26:00 -
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Aizen Intiki wrote:Mediums don't need a respec. Only light and heavy frames need one, as well as vehicles, because of racial ****. Maybe even specific weapons as well. (racial pistols, racial rifles, etc.)
Well i play Heavy AND light so that would make me eligible for 2? XD
''Not gonna happen.
Full respecs are actually something that I would hesitate to support.
Okay, on reflection just now, I don't support full respecs.
I do support repects When Any Skill Tree Sub Branch Is Modified.
Those should be automatic or available In Game. Not some lame Ruby script on the server weeks after the event.
The reason for the limitations is the Fit Of The Moment tendency in many FPS games. I have never liked it so I see no reason to support it now. Borderlands supports that but it is not massive multiplayer. Just single player and co-op. It is fine in that context.''
Im tired of this FOTM bullcr*p.
Thats a LAME excuse and you guys should FEEL bad.
Respecs on a RPG type FPS is a MUST.
Who gives a turd if people go for the FOTM ?
This would pinpoint imbalances EASIER and FASTER.
Intead of , ok here we go , now the AMARR logi has 1 more low slot and more PG/CPU, everybody going for AMARR Logi, 4 months later the threads whining about the suit, get nerfed. People leave.
This game wont progress a lot more if they dont get a solid , steady way of Skill specn.....
Or at least, keep giving skill specs , what, once per month? until all content is out, and game is balanced.
At which point they would announce well, this is your last Skill respec choose wisely.
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Thurak1
Psygod9
63
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:48:00 -
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Absolute Idiom II wrote:I can't think of a reason that you'd request:
a) MULTIPLE respecs
b) respecs based on version releases and not when certain criteria are met.
I can only see a justification for a full optional respec once ALL suits and weapon lines are fully released. And then no more. Ever.
Personally I think that at least partial respec's should be given out when major changes are made to a class of weapon.
For exampled if say AR's were moved to be considered a heavy only weapon. |
Thurak1
Psygod9
63
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Posted - 2013.08.23 01:53:00 -
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KING CHECKMATE wrote:Aizen Intiki wrote:Mediums don't need a respec. Only light and heavy frames need one, as well as vehicles, because of racial ****. Maybe even specific weapons as well. (racial pistols, racial rifles, etc.) Well i play Heavy AND light so that would make me eligible for 2? XD
''Not gonna happen. Full respecs are actually something that I would hesitate to support. Okay, on reflection just now, I don't support full respecs. I do support repects When Any Skill Tree Sub Branch Is Modified. Those should be automatic or available In Game. Not some lame Ruby script on the server weeks after the event. The reason for the limitations is the Fit Of The Moment tendency in many FPS games. I have never liked it so I see no reason to support it now. Borderlands supports that but it is not massive multiplayer. Just single player and co-op. It is fine in that context.'' Im tired of this FOTM bullcr*p. Thats a LAME excuse and you guys should FEEL bad. Respecs on a RPG type FPS is a MUST. Who gives a turd if people go for the FOTM ? This would pinpoint imbalances EASIER and FASTER. Intead of , ok here we go , now the AMARR logi has 1 more low slot and more PG/CPU, everybody going for AMARR Logi, 4 months later the threads whining about the suit, get nerfed. People leave. This game wont progress a lot more if they dont get a solid , steady way of Skill specn..... Or at least, keep giving skill specs , what, once per month? until all content is out, and game is balanced. At which point they would announce well, this is your last Skill respec choose wisely.
O please CCP is responsible for FOTM because they do not properly playtest weapons before releasing to players. If i see a weapon that is clearly superior yes i would want to skill into it. Then having it turned into a nerf gun because ccp finally figures out what a OP weapon they released is not MY fault its their unwillingness to have a proper play test server. So if CCP is going to continue to release crap then we can all expect a lot of FOTM crap because they will continue to use the general population as a beta test for weapons.
so in sort until CCP gets their head on straight and has a REAL play test server i fully support re-spec's. |
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