Also, what part are you complaining about? How your gun is effective against bunched up players backed into a corner? Or how it is good at killing players who 5 other guys are stripping the shields off of? Or are you complaining, like you did in the video, that you get hurt when people chuck explosives at you when you and your team are in a close group?

You are in THE ideal scenario to use that weapon. That is a barrel you are shooting into and the stupid red-dots are the fish swimming stupidly around, having babies, and swimming around some more. Except instead of shooting you are dropping sticks of dynamite into the barrel.

MD- the more op version of a flay lock- to bad you hard head mofos dont understand and spec into it like lil beeches cuz you wanna be OP...

I was thinking about letting this go, but now I won't.

I've had the MD as my primary weapon since closed beta. I had it when latency issues caused it to auto-reload when you had half a clip still showing. I had it in chromasome when it started to be good, then I still had it when the occlusion issues started with it and they nerfed the splash range. It was the first weapon I had to proto as a logi before anyone was complaining how OP it was. It wasn't until a month ago that I started speccing into other weapons.

I simply don't know what you guys want the MD to be?

By saying you want a much smaller AoE, you are saying you want a traditionally area denial weapon to be a direct fire that people can fight against as if it were an AR.

By saying you want to have MD users have to aim/hit directly at targets you are saying you want all gunplay to work basically the same.

By NOT criticizing the strategic decision to spawn into a massive death trap against superior numbers you are saying that people should mainly fight in massively boring and non-tactical AR blobs.

You want to be able to strafe-dance with people at 30m in fair 1v1 fights all day. You want all weapons to work the same against armor and shield.

I don't buy the argument that MD wins 1v1 against AR all the time. It SHOULD win against them outside of the optimals, but it should ALSO win against them if they fail to avoid flux grenade damage at closer range. If you can tell me why it shouldn't win in those situations then we can talk.

... Those are the blast radii from Chromosome if you pulled them off the web...

Another thing i've noticed, I know other people in TP have noticed this.

My shield stacked cal logi 502/163 will often taken 900 damage from a core locus and i'll be one shot.

I've heard similar reports from other shield stacked players as well.

Something is seriously wrong with explosives in this game.

i've been hit by a militia locus for 600 damage before too.

Either situation is mathematically impossible as well, same with how I died in 4 shots from that freedom MD.

Yes but there are other things that are hard to quantify as well. For instance if you are in the MD blast radius then when you get hit it causes your aim to jerk upwards. The amount of jerking for you aim is significant enough that it takes about a second (maybe a tad bit less) for your aim to be adjusted back down (its done automatically). During that time you shots will obviously go wide and not hit your target. Like you said the MD fires ~1 round a second lets say. So MD can fire mess with your aim and by the time you aim recovers the MD can fire again...thus continuing to force the weapon off of target. This essentially means that a MD user can effectively take an AR user head to head and will actually not have to worry about being shot back.

LAVs have nothing to do with I posted, unless you mean to say you think there is a similar bug with explosives applying damage multiple times?

Even if I had all armor a Core locus cannot do 900 damage, that's a 50% bonus straight through. Something aint right.

erhaps.....I think its kinda weird because we are in dropsuit can can drop from orbit and land unharmed on the planets surface....it seems odd that a small explosive would cause you to jerk (this is also why getting run over by an LAV does not make sense to me in this game). The biggest problem with balance is really the AOE..I would be willing to wait to see if a change to AOE would be enough to balance this weapon b4 anything else is done.