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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:43:00 -
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If I spec into Minmatar Logistics, do I get the armor repair and hacking bonus while wearing the Logistics M-1 Dren suit? Just started test driving the logi role and liking it. Wondering whether I should consider this BPO item when I decide which Logistics path to skill into. |
Anmol Singh
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:44:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:If I spec into Minmatar Logistics, do I get the armor repair and hacking bonus while wearing the Logistics M-1 Dren suit? Just started test driving the logi role and liking it. Wondering whether I should consider this BPO item when I decide which Logistics path to skill into.
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:46:00 -
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Anmol Singh wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:If I spec into Minmatar Logistics, do I get the armor repair and hacking bonus while wearing the Logistics M-1 Dren suit? Just started test driving the logi role and liking it. Wondering whether I should consider this BPO item when I decide which Logistics path to skill into. no
No I should consider this, or no I don't get the bonus? realize now that I should have written my post better. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
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Posted - 2013.08.22 12:57:00 -
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You will get the bonuses. Spec into the M-1 suit and check it out. You will see at level 1 your dren suit will get 1 HP per sec. |
Nocturnal Soul
Immortal Retribution
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Posted - 2013.08.22 13:31:00 -
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The militia minmatar suit gets the bonus so you really dont need to spec into it |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.22 13:54:00 -
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bacon |
Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 15:54:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:You will get the bonuses. Spec into the M-1 suit and check it out. You will see at level 1 your dren suit will get 1 HP per sec.
that would be awesome. It'd make farming ISK and sp easier. Still need to look at the different logi fits and see which one fits my style. I like the hacking bonus on the M-1, but the suit itself is quite weak compared to the CalLogi. I've read that the M-1 is more suited for a solitary hacker/bomber role rather than a medic/support role. The hacker bomber role sounds interesting, but I would still want to use my logi suit for medic/support in ambushes.
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Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 15:59:00 -
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Nocturnal Soul wrote:The militia minmatar suit gets the bonus so you really dont need to spec into it
Militia suits are usually weaker than their basic counter part and I would ultimately level up M-1 to advanced or higher giving me at least +3 repair and 15% faster hacking on a BPO fit. Farming isk and sp would be noticably easier. on skirmish and A-OMS matches, I would use the freed up Low Power slot for a hacker module. With a basic hacker module, level 3 M-1, level 3 system hacking, I would have 40% faster hacking on a BPO suit.
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Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:00:00 -
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Maple syrup |
Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:03:00 -
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Fire of Prometheus wrote:
I don't get it. |
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Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:06:00 -
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In Canada, you commonly find these in meal offered at "Sugar Shacks" |
Mirataf
WARRIORS 1NC
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:06:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote: I don't get it.
/shrugs shoulders
Pancakes |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:10:00 -
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Bacon Pancake! |
Fire of Prometheus
DUST University Ivy League
159
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:12:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:Fire of Prometheus wrote: I don't get it. Bacon+maple syrup=true Canadian meal |
Zero Harpuia
WarRavens League of Infamy
673
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:13:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:You will get the bonuses. Spec into the M-1 suit and check it out. You will see at level 1 your dren suit will get 1 HP per sec. that would be awesome. It'd make farming ISK and sp easier. Still need to look at the different logi fits and see which one fits my style. I like the hacking bonus on the M-1, but the suit itself is quite weak compared to the CalLogi. I've read that the M-1 is more suited for a solitary hacker/bomber role rather than a medic/support role. The hacker bomber role sounds interesting, but I would still want to use my logi suit for medic/support in ambushes.
The Minmatar Logi is meant for nothing but healing. It has wnough slots for a full suite of repair tools, and the hacking bonus is for you to hack while your teammates cover you.
The CalLogi is meant to be a frontline healer or reviver, but people just abuse his shield bonuses for an Assault suit/use them as Assault cuz they protoed them during the 25% shield bonus times. Don't blame them completely, its CCPs fault too, but goddammit they give Logis a bad name.
Gallente is for the bombs, with the reduction on equipment resources and the huge slot number they can afford to carry Uplinks, Remotes, Proxies, and Scanners.
Amarr is supposed to be for frontline healer as it can restore its pwn armor at a decent rate. Would be nice if it had a bit more of that armor, but c'est la vie.
Also, never EVER play a Logi alone, you will get your sad arse killed by an Assault/CalLogi moron. |
Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
25
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Posted - 2013.08.22 16:41:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:You will get the bonuses. Spec into the M-1 suit and check it out. You will see at level 1 your dren suit will get 1 HP per sec. that would be awesome. It'd make farming ISK and sp easier. Still need to look at the different logi fits and see which one fits my style. I like the hacking bonus on the M-1, but the suit itself is quite weak compared to the CalLogi. I've read that the M-1 is more suited for a solitary hacker/bomber role rather than a medic/support role. The hacker bomber role sounds interesting, but I would still want to use my logi suit for medic/support in ambushes. The Minmatar Logi is meant for nothing but healing. It has wnough slots for a full suite of repair tools, and the hacking bonus is for you to hack while your teammates cover you. The CalLogi is meant to be a frontline healer or reviver, but people just abuse his shield bonuses for an Assault suit/use them as Assault cuz they protoed them during the 25% shield bonus times. Don't blame them completely, its CCPs fault too, but goddammit they give Logis a bad name. Gallente is for the bombs, with the reduction on equipment resources and the huge slot number they can afford to carry Uplinks, Remotes, Proxies, and Scanners. Amarr is supposed to be for frontline healer as it can restore its pwn armor at a decent rate. Would be nice if it had a bit more of that armor, but c'est la vie. Also, never EVER play a Logi alone, you will get your sad arse killed by an Assault/CalLogi moron.
Good tips. Thanks.
I've been using my AR with the M-1 suit. Seems like a scrambler rifle would be better if I am supposed to stay out of fights.
So far, I have found that I can use my AR effectively (1-2 KDR) with a strong team while still providing support. I like the logi role so far and am enjoying the BPO suit, but after spending my first 3 months in the game doing an assault character, I am not sure I want to move to a role that is supposed to stay out of action all the time.
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Zero Harpuia
WarRavens League of Infamy
673
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Posted - 2013.08.22 17:17:00 -
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Thang Bausch wrote:Zero Harpuia wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:You will get the bonuses. Spec into the M-1 suit and check it out. You will see at level 1 your dren suit will get 1 HP per sec. that would be awesome. It'd make farming ISK and sp easier. Still need to look at the different logi fits and see which one fits my style. I like the hacking bonus on the M-1, but the suit itself is quite weak compared to the CalLogi. I've read that the M-1 is more suited for a solitary hacker/bomber role rather than a medic/support role. The hacker bomber role sounds interesting, but I would still want to use my logi suit for medic/support in ambushes. The Minmatar Logi is meant for nothing but healing. It has wnough slots for a full suite of repair tools, and the hacking bonus is for you to hack while your teammates cover you. The CalLogi is meant to be a frontline healer or reviver, but people just abuse his shield bonuses for an Assault suit/use them as Assault cuz they protoed them during the 25% shield bonus times. Don't blame them completely, its CCPs fault too, but goddammit they give Logis a bad name. Gallente is for the bombs, with the reduction on equipment resources and the huge slot number they can afford to carry Uplinks, Remotes, Proxies, and Scanners. Amarr is supposed to be for frontline healer as it can restore its pwn armor at a decent rate. Would be nice if it had a bit more of that armor, but c'est la vie. Also, never EVER play a Logi alone, you will get your sad arse killed by an Assault/CalLogi moron. Good tips. Thanks. I've been using my AR with the M-1 suit. Seems like a scrambler rifle would be better if I am supposed to stay out of fights. So far, I have found that I can use my AR effectively (1-2 KDR) with a strong team while still providing support. I like the logi role so far and am enjoying the BPO suit, but after spending my first 3 months in the game doing an assault character, I am not sure I want to move to a role that is supposed to stay out of action all the time.
The Scrambler is good for shield stripping for a HMG buddy or for those pesky Caldari, but it actually has less range than the AR. Still a good choice for Logi. Other good choices were the AR for its multirolling, the Mass Driver(and I used it when it was broken, imagine now that it's fixed!) and maybe the SMG as a weaker AR if you need the fitting space. If you CAN, the Scrambler Pistol is also acceptable if you can get headshots to do the same Scrambler Rifle job with less fitting requirements. Shotgun, Sniper Rifle, and Laser Rifle are not recommended due to you being to slow for the former even in MinmaLogi and the latter two keeping you too far from your patients. |
Cody Sietz
Bullet Cluster
753
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Posted - 2013.08.22 19:31:00 -
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Scrambler is great for staying out of the battle while still providing cover fire. I'd also suggest a TAC AR.
I'm using a Amarr logi with a scrambler rifle as well and i agree that going from a assault is way different. I don't think I will specing I to a logi suit anytime soon. The play style is not fo r me.
May I suggest trying out a Dren Gallente scout with the dren shotgun? It is quite good IMO. |
Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
25
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Posted - 2013.08.24 17:46:00 -
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Cody Sietz wrote:Scrambler is great for staying out of the battle while still providing cover fire. I'd also suggest a TAC AR.
I'm using a Amarr logi with a scrambler rifle as well and i agree that going from a assault is way different. I don't think I will specing I to a logi suit anytime soon. The play style is not fo r me.
May I suggest trying out a Dren Gallente scout with the dren shotgun? It is quite good IMO.
I've been thinking about giving the TAC AR a try. I've speced a fair bit into AR, so unlike the scrambler rifle, i wouldn't need to spec a bunch into it. I'm finding the regular AR isn't that bad. I need to get prototype shields tho so I can buff my shields more. Then I'm going to spec into speed and stamina modules so I can run between hiding spots faster to heal people.
Just bought the elite pack so have not tried all the suits and style yet. Right now I'm loving the logi role so I've been specing all my sp into relevant skills. At some point I am going to give the dren scout/shotgun combo a try, but probably not for a month or so.
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Reav Hannari
Red Rock Outriders
1024
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Posted - 2013.08.24 18:00:00 -
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Since there were conflicting answers on Minmatar Logistics skill and the Dren Logistics suit: I have Minmatar Logistics 5 and my Dren repairs 5 hp/s without a repairer.
I like the Tac AR on my Scout suit where I can switch to an SMG for close quarters. I prefer either an SMG or regular AR on my Logistics suits. |
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Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
712
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Posted - 2013.08.24 18:41:00 -
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Zero Harpuia wrote:Thang Bausch wrote:Cody Sietz wrote:You will get the bonuses. Spec into the M-1 suit and check it out. You will see at level 1 your dren suit will get 1 HP per sec. that would be awesome. It'd make farming ISK and sp easier. Still need to look at the different logi fits and see which one fits my style. I like the hacking bonus on the M-1, but the suit itself is quite weak compared to the CalLogi. I've read that the M-1 is more suited for a solitary hacker/bomber role rather than a medic/support role. The hacker bomber role sounds interesting, but I would still want to use my logi suit for medic/support in ambushes. The Minmatar Logi is meant for nothing but healing. It has wnough slots for a full suite of repair tools, and the hacking bonus is for you to hack while your teammates cover you. The CalLogi is meant to be a frontline healer or reviver, but people just abuse his shield bonuses for an Assault suit/use them as Assault cuz they protoed them during the 25% shield bonus times. Don't blame them completely, its CCPs fault too, but goddammit they give Logis a bad name. Gallente is for the bombs, with the reduction on equipment resources and the huge slot number they can afford to carry Uplinks, Remotes, Proxies, and Scanners. Amarr is supposed to be for frontline healer as it can restore its pwn armor at a decent rate. Would be nice if it had a bit more of that armor, but c'est la vie. Also, never EVER play a Logi alone, you will get your sad arse killed by an Assault/CalLogi moron. Kinda think you mixed up Minmatar and Gallente there.
Minmatar has same number of equipment slots, comparable number of lows, speed and stamina bonus. To me this makes them appear more ideal for running REs, Proxies, Uplinks and Scanner. More high to shield-tank a bit while fielding biotics instead of plates/reppers, get a lot more speed. Can Medi-Logi very well due to being the most versatile Logi but as it's just that I wouldn't pigeonhole it into any one role.
Gallente is able to run a full Proto equipment layout easier, on top of being slower when tanked this makes it the more natural medic. Core Focused Repair, Wiyrkomi Triage/Allotek (R), Proto Needle, 4th slot as wildcard. The rep-hive can reinforce point defence extremely well in some situations while also helping you keep yourself alive. If in a situation where it's handling the repping while the fight is on you can add your own fire into the fray while it's doing some hands-free healing.
Having the slightly chubby Gallente in charge of bombs kinda seems sub-optimal, comparitively... doesn't feel like playing to it's strengths. |
Thang Bausch
Pierrot Le Fou Industries
25
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Posted - 2013.08.26 16:29:00 -
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Reav Hannari wrote:Since there were conflicting answers on Minmatar Logistics skill and the Dren Logistics suit: I have Minmatar Logistics 5 and my Dren repairs 5 hp/s without a repairer.
I like the Tac AR on my Scout suit where I can switch to an SMG for close quarters. I prefer either an SMG or regular AR on my Logistics suits.
I saw my armor repaid increase too, so it's real. I won't know if the hack bonus is there until I have leveled into it enough, but I'm leveling into system hack at the same time, so might be hard to know for sure. |
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