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Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3205
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Posted - 2013.08.21 22:45:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TsxKYNwrKA
Starfire Revo is a pretty good player.
I challenge anyone to watch this video and say that the Plasma Cannon isn't stupidly underpowered.
I mean, at one point he fires it at an LLAV and only takes 1/4 shield off it.
While it's standing still with no active mods running. |
Henchmen21
Planet Express LLC
128
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Posted - 2013.08.21 22:58:00 -
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Somebody got me good with it earlier, saw him step out, went to return fire as his round landed right at my feet. was one well aimed shot not just random spam. Well played who ever that was, well played indeed. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
430
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Posted - 2013.08.21 22:59:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TsxKYNwrKA
Starfire Revo is a pretty good player.
I challenge anyone to watch this video and say that the Plasma Cannon isn't stupidly underpowered.
I mean, at one point he fires it at an LLAV and only takes 1/4 shield off it.
While it's standing still with no active mods running. Look up the vehicle skills and modules. You'll see why it's difficult to destroy a Logi LAV quickly. |
Zahle Undt
Bullet Cluster
249
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:01:00 -
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I think its a consensus that the plasma cannon is UP. I have only tried it a couple times myself but it really needed a faster projectile and either A. No charge up or B. 3 to 4 rounds of ammo before reload before I would even begin to consider it a viable weapon |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3208
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:15:00 -
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Zahle Undt wrote:I think its a consensus that the plasma cannon is UP. I have only tried it a couple times myself but it really needed a faster projectile and either A. No charge up or B. 3 to 4 rounds of ammo before reload before I would even begin to consider it a viable weapon I mean, he can't even hit that tank at range because it sees the shot and just moves out of the way. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
430
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:20:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TsxKYNwrKA
Starfire Revo is a pretty good player.
I challenge anyone to watch this video and say that the Plasma Cannon isn't stupidly underpowered.
I mean, at one point he fires it at an LLAV and only takes 1/4 shield off it.
While it's standing still with no active mods running. Why couldn't you say where it was? I sat through 16 minutes of pretty bad playing and a whole team unable to take out an armor tank for a couple of minutes.
The Charybdis probably had 4 passive resistance modules. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1231
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:22:00 -
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It definitely needs a higher velocity.
and maybe more of an incentive on getting higher tiers.
As is, there's no good reason to spend that much on a proto cannon when all it does is less than 100 more damage.
Although, I think as a Light AV weapon (Which it is) it needs to be the Gallentes version (Shield AV) of the Caldari swarm launcher (Armor AV), which it is.
Think about how bad a wiyrikomi swarm launcher hurts armor tanks and even shield tanks. Then look at this pathetic plasma cannon I stupidly wasted a mil SP on that can barely hit a tank let alone hurt a shield tank that it was designed to do more damage against. |
Mobius Wyvern
Guardian Solutions DARKSTAR ARMY
3208
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:25:00 -
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Spkr4theDead wrote:Mobius Wyvern wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TsxKYNwrKA
Starfire Revo is a pretty good player.
I challenge anyone to watch this video and say that the Plasma Cannon isn't stupidly underpowered.
I mean, at one point he fires it at an LLAV and only takes 1/4 shield off it.
While it's standing still with no active mods running. Why couldn't you say where it was? I sat through 16 minutes of pretty bad playing and a whole team unable to take out an armor tank for a couple of minutes. The Charybdis probably had 4 passive resistance modules. That stupid-ass link was supposed to have the timestamp in it.
Lemme try that again. |
Spkr4theDead
International-Fleet
430
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:25:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Zahle Undt wrote:I think its a consensus that the plasma cannon is UP. I have only tried it a couple times myself but it really needed a faster projectile and either A. No charge up or B. 3 to 4 rounds of ammo before reload before I would even begin to consider it a viable weapon I mean, he can't even hit that tank at range because it sees the shot and just moves out of the way. I don't know what you were watching, but every shot at a tank sailed high. |
Severance Pay
Krullefor Organization Minmatar Republic
884
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:01:00 -
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If you can't rock this gun and totally wreck face with it the way I do, then you are not worthy. Put the gun down. Do not pick it ups lest you disgrace the true PLC gunners. I beg of you sir, please gtfo and get gud. |
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Bright Cloud
Namtar Elite Gallente Federation
21
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:10:00 -
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Have to agree the plasma canon is at the moment the worst AV weapon in the game. projectile has slow velocity, needs realoading after each shot, pitifull damage and terrible accuracy. To be honest increase the clip size of the plasma canon up to 2 shots. Not 3 or 4 just 2 and up the damage a bit on it cause at the moment a militia swarm launcher does 1200HP damage per volley (natural resistance not calculated) while the plasma canon does like 1100HP per hit. But then we have a new problem with it: at the moment it does similar splash damage like a forgegun on a similar blast radius. So what would happend if we actually increase the clip to 2 shots? You could spam it and kill most suits with 1 clip of it in a short amount of time. And it could become another "I WIN FLAYLOCK". |
calvin b
Molon Labe. League of Infamy
337
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:13:00 -
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Yes the gun is horrible but to have equipped on another terrible idea called the commandont is asking to be kicked in the nuts |
Zero Harpuia
WarRavens League of Infamy
670
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:14:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:If you can't rock this gun and totally wreck face with it the way I do, then you are not worthy. Put the gun down. Do not pick it ups lest you disgrace the true PLC gunners. I beg of you sir, please gtfo and get gud.
Are you using it as an AV weapon or as a supershotgun? One method is right and rather UP, the other is not as intended.
In other news, shut up and take your buff scrub :p
...'scrub' is the right word right? Never got this 'gamer slang' crap. |
Greasepalms
Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN.
176
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:19:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Have to agree the plasma canon is at the moment the worst AV weapon in the game. projectile has slow velocity, needs realoading after each shot, pitifull damage and terrible accuracy. To be honest increase the clip size of the plasma canon up to 2 shots. Not 3 or 4 just 2 and up the damage a bit on it cause at the moment a militia swarm launcher does 1200HP damage per volley (natural resistance not calculated) while the plasma canon does like 1100HP per hit. But then we have a new problem with it: at the moment it does similar splash damage like a forgegun on a similar blast radius. So what would happend if we actually increase the clip to 2 shots? You could spam it and kill most suits with 1 clip of it in a short amount of time. And it could become another "I WIN FLAYLOCK".
I believe for it to become viable for AV, both the projectile speed and direct damage need to be buffed. This will not necessarily turn it into a MD 2.0 for anti-infantry since projectile speed wouldn't make much of a difference in close quarters and with the current direct damage it is a 1HK as it is (and should).
No need to buff anti-infantry capabilities, we have enough explosion and blast going on already. |
Sgt Kirk
SyNergy Gaming EoN.
1231
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Posted - 2013.08.22 01:25:00 -
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Bright Cloud wrote:Have to agree the plasma canon is at the moment the worst AV weapon in the game. projectile has slow velocity, needs realoading after each shot, pitifull damage and terrible accuracy. To be honest increase the clip size of the plasma canon up to 2 shots. Not 3 or 4 just 2 and up the damage a bit on it cause at the moment a militia swarm launcher does 1200HP damage per volley (natural resistance not calculated) while the plasma canon does like 1100HP per hit. But then we have a new problem with it: at the moment it does similar splash damage like a forgegun on a similar blast radius. So what would happend if we actually increase the clip to 2 shots? You could spam it and kill most suits with 1 clip of it in a short amount of time. And it could become another "I WIN FLAYLOCK". Just keep it it to one charge per capsule. No need to increase it. |
XxGhazbaranxX
Bannana Boat Corp
293
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Posted - 2013.08.22 01:47:00 -
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Look. I am a gall logi with a plasma cannon. I used to run MD but fell in love with the PC. It took me about 200 suits to actually learn the mechanics correctly. Now I have proto version and spec three. It's the weapon I use ( mainly at strd or adv level since proto fittings req are a bt harsh and the price is unwarranted unless i'm in a proto suit) and I can tell you there is nothing underpowered about the weapon except the rapid reload skill which should be a 10% decrease per level in reload time instead of a measly three for a one shot weapon. The projectile speed makes the player need skill but even with the slow projectile you can kill anything if you know how to lead your target.
If you think the weapon is underpowered it's because you haven't given it a chance. a weapon that powerful needs the drawbacks in place to keep it balanced.
Logi lav's are a problem for even forge gunners but the problem is not their survivability, but the way they are used ( murder taxi's)
If CCP dumbs this weapon down we will have big problems.
MY WEAPON MUST NOT BE MADE INTO A SCRUB WEAPON FOR NOOBs.
If anyone want to use it then they better HTFU because it's a long road to mastery but a glorious destination. Any true pc user knows it's power and doesn't come on the forums for a fix because they fear CCP will break the weapon. |
DeadlyAztec11
Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo
1955
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Posted - 2013.08.22 02:08:00 -
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The Plasma Cannon is fine. The only thing that makes it UP is that proto and standard don't have enough of a difference. Same issue with the Breach SMG.
The standard versions are fine, but advanced and proto need to be improved. |
XxGhazbaranxX
Bannana Boat Corp
294
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Posted - 2013.08.22 02:14:00 -
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Severance Pay wrote:If you can't rock this gun and totally wreck face with it the way I do, then you are not worthy. Put the gun down. Do not pick it ups lest you disgrace the true PLC gunners. I beg of you sir, please gtfo and get gud.
well said |
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