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Baal Roo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:02:00 -
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Valkyrie looks awesome and is a game that's actually going to be able to utilize modern hardware and do new and hopefully exciting stuff. If it really was a "one or the other" I'd choose that they put resources in Valkyrie at this point. |
Baal Roo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:11:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Star Citizen looks cool...but the entire time they describe the game, I think to myself "Eve already does all that". The only exception are that fights are more like TIE fighter and Wing Commander. And even in that respect EVE is catching up.
In short: They seem to wanna do exactly what EVE already does or soon will do...the only difference is, EVE already has thousands of players that make the universe "come alive"...while Star Citizens doesn't have a single user so far.
What will Star Citizen offer that EVE won't when it's released?
*crickets*
Fact is, over the years I've heard tons of "omg, game xyz will be released in a month...it'll destroy EVE...I'm gone". Those people then leave EVE for a few months just to return after a while. Happened so many times, I lost count. I belong in that camp myself, tested tooooons of MMOs over the years including SWTOR. Always ended up coming back to EVE because the "world" just feels more alive with real politics and real consequences.
PS: I hope Star Citizen won't just be a dumbed down version of EVE (in terms of complexity) with Wing Commander fights...would be a massive let down. Part of EVE's attraction is a certain complexity.
Star citizen is primarily a game about having intense dogfights in space. Eve is primarily a game about meta-diplomacy and spreadsheets.
Star citizen is being developed to support the Oculus Rift, which gets ridiculously rave reviews from basically every single reviewer that puts the thing on.
I personally would greatly prefer Star Citizen be a "dumbed down" version of EVE. I don't care about 90% of the things people who play EVE care about, which is why I don't play EVE. I want to fly a spaceship and shoot other guys flying spaceships... and that's something EVE does not offer. Now that CCP is offering a game in which I will be able to fly a spaceship and shoot other guys flying spaceships AND it's being developed for the Rift, I'm interested. |
Baal Roo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:28:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Baal Roo wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:Star Citizen looks cool...but the entire time they describe the game, I think to myself "Eve already does all that". The only exception are that fights are more like TIE fighter and Wing Commander. And even in that respect EVE is catching up.
In short: They seem to wanna do exactly what EVE already does or soon will do...the only difference is, EVE already has thousands of players that make the universe "come alive"...while Star Citizens doesn't have a single user so far.
What will Star Citizen offer that EVE won't when it's released?
*crickets*
Fact is, over the years I've heard tons of "omg, game xyz will be released in a month...it'll destroy EVE...I'm gone". Those people then leave EVE for a few months just to return after a while. Happened so many times, I lost count. I belong in that camp myself, tested tooooons of MMOs over the years including SWTOR. Always ended up coming back to EVE because the "world" just feels more alive with real politics and real consequences.
PS: I hope Star Citizen won't just be a dumbed down version of EVE (in terms of complexity) with Wing Commander fights...would be a massive let down. Part of EVE's attraction is a certain complexity. Star citizen is primarily a game about having intense dogfights in space. Eve is primarily a game about meta-diplomacy and spreadsheets. Star citizen is being developed to support the Oculus Rift, which gets ridiculously rave reviews from basically every single reviewer that puts the thing on. I personally would greatly prefer Star Citizen be a "dumbed down" version of EVE. I don't care about 90% of the things people who play EVE care about, which is why I don't play EVE. I want to fly a spaceship and shoot other guys flying spaceships... and that's something EVE does not offer. Now that CCP is offering a game in which I will be able to fly a spaceship and shoot other guys flying spaceships AND it's being developed for the Rift, I'm interested. You do realise EVE will support the Oculus Rift too...right? And it will have dog fights too! So you get both, complexity of EVE and the more arcade style fun of dogfights. Oh, and a huge existing userbase. I think you misunderstood me, I said I hope Star Citizen won't become a dumbed down version of Eve...which is exactly what you hope it'll turn out to be it seems.
Eve: Valkeryie is being built for the Rift. I don't see any reason to expect Valkyrie to be any more connected to Eve Online than Dust 514 is.
And yes, I thought I was pretty clear: I want Star Citizen to be a "dumbed down" version of Eve, that instead focuses on actually flying ships and shooting at other people flying ships... and if very much looks like the devs for Star Citizen have the same idea in mind. It most certainly will not have the depth of economy that Eve Online has, and it clearly isn't striving to do so. |
Baal Roo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:31:00 -
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The Robot Devil wrote:Baal Roo wrote:Star citizen is primarily a game about having intense dogfights in space. Eve is primarily a game about meta-diplomacy and spreadsheets.
Star citizen is being developed to support the Oculus Rift, which gets ridiculously rave reviews from basically every single reviewer that puts the thing on.
I personally would greatly prefer Star Citizen be a "dumbed down" version of EVE. I don't care about 90% of the things people who play EVE care about, which is why I don't play EVE. I want to fly a spaceship and shoot other guys flying spaceships... and that's something EVE does not offer. Now that CCP is offering a game in which I will be able to fly a spaceship and shoot other guys flying spaceships AND it's being developed for the Rift, I'm interested. You can shoot ships and do nothing else. How can you say that EVE isn't about shooting ships. The list of thing I have heard is now complete.
Don't play dumb, it's unbecoming of you.
This is like comparing X-Com and Call of Duty "because they're both games about military guys shooting at stuff." |
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