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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:07:00 -
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For everyone complaining about Forge Gun splash damage, think about this.
Forge guns fire massive shells that weigh approximately 1Kg and travel at 7000 m/s (15,600 mph). That shell has 9 times the kinetic energy of a 7.5 tonne truck travelling at 60 mph...
The shock wave created from that impacting the ground would be more than enough to damage anyone standing close enough to it. |
Void Echo
Ancient Exiles
932
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:09:00 -
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doesn't a shock wave push you back, not damage you though? |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations
Covert Intervention
5830
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:10:00 -
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To be perfectly honest I'm starting to think the splash radius is perfectly fine, maybe lower splash damage just a hair, and make the actual projectile smaller so that way it's harder to land direct hits on mobile targets.
Void Echo wrote:doesn't a shock wave push you back, not damage you though?
As a compromise to splash damage I've suggested a knockback effect, as it seems to provide a reasonable middle ground. I don't know how necessary / easy to program that would be though. |
MarasdF Loron
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
55
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:12:00 -
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Then explain Railguns. |
Amarrian Desperado
Tal-Romon Legion
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:13:00 -
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spallation |
Void Echo
Ancient Exiles
932
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:14:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Then explain Railguns.
rails are bigger and more powerful, of course there going to kill anything within 2 meters of the hitpoint. also, its ectrically charged, so im guessing that the electric current is what kills you if get hit by its splash damage. |
MarasdF Loron
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
55
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:15:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Then explain Railguns. rails are bigger and more powerful, of course there going to kill anything within 2 meters of the hitpoint. also, its ectrically charged, so im guessing that the electric current is what kills you if get hit by its splash damage.
Sorry, I should have been more precise. I didn't actually mean the splash, which is fine, but more like the speed. |
Void Echo
Ancient Exiles
932
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:15:00 -
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Amarrian Desperado wrote:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spallation
find raiser link lol |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor
Gallente Federation
690
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:16:00 -
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What's the scientific justification for a laserbeam only being hot after it's travelled 60m?
Let's be real, or rather, let's not. This isn't hard sci-fi whatever that even means. It's gameplay and established thematics first, realism a very distant second. |
Void Echo
Ancient Exiles
932
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:16:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Void Echo wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Then explain Railguns. rails are bigger and more powerful, of course there going to kill anything within 2 meters of the hitpoint. also, its ectrically charged, so im guessing that the electric current is what kills you if get hit by its splash damage. Sorry, I should have been more precise. I didn't actually mean the splash, which is fine, but more like the speed.
look at rail guns in real life, they have prototypes that travel vast distances in a short time, its electrically charged and NOT fired by gun powder, combustion ignition has les power than electrical ignition. |
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Melchiah ARANeAE
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
15
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:22:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:What's the scientific justification for a laserbeam only being hot after it's travelled 60m?
Let's be real, or rather, let's not. This isn't hard sci-fi whatever that even means. It's gameplay and established thematics first, realism a very distant second.
Yeah, the laser rifle if crap. I'd admit that. |
MarasdF Loron
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
55
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:25:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Void Echo wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Then explain Railguns. rails are bigger and more powerful, of course there going to kill anything within 2 meters of the hitpoint. also, its ectrically charged, so im guessing that the electric current is what kills you if get hit by its splash damage. Sorry, I should have been more precise. I didn't actually mean the splash, which is fine, but more like the speed. look at rail guns in real life, they have prototypes that travel vast distances in a short time, its electrically charged and NOT fired by gun powder, combustion ignition has les power than electrical ignition.
Indeed, Railgun ammunition speed is MUCH faster than normal firearm bullet speed... and what is it like in this game? 200mph travel speed for Railgun ammo, am I rite? |
Void Echo
Ancient Exiles
935
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:30:00 -
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MarasdF Loron wrote:Void Echo wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Void Echo wrote:MarasdF Loron wrote:Then explain Railguns. rails are bigger and more powerful, of course there going to kill anything within 2 meters of the hitpoint. also, its ectrically charged, so im guessing that the electric current is what kills you if get hit by its splash damage. Sorry, I should have been more precise. I didn't actually mean the splash, which is fine, but more like the speed. look at rail guns in real life, they have prototypes that travel vast distances in a short time, its electrically charged and NOT fired by gun powder, combustion ignition has les power than electrical ignition. Indeed, Railgun ammunition speed is MUCH faster than normal firearm bullet speed... and what is it like in this game? 200mph travel speed for Railgun ammo, am I rite?
the map area is very small, only like half a mile probably, so yeah... |
Oso Peresoso
RisingSuns
620
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:34:00 -
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Melchiah ARANeAE wrote:
Forge guns fire massive shells that weigh approximately 1Kg and travel at 7000 m/s (15,600 mph).
I think the shells weighing 1Kg is a bit absurd, supersoldier-heavy or not.
7k m/s is in the flavor text, but does the projectile actually travel that fast in-game? It seems a about half that. |
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