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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 17:49:00 -
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here are some steps to counter them.
for Vehicles:
Step 1- locate the forge sniper. Step 2- get to some point of the map where he cant get you. (impossible i know) Step 3- make sure your the only one in that area. Step 4- recall your vehicle. Step 5- leave the game and go to a game that's actually playable.
for Infantry:
Step 1- locate the forge sniper Step 2- have the squad leader place a defend order on one of the people in your squad. Step 3- get an orbital. Step 4- use the orbital on the cowards at the top of the buildings. (this will also destroy all equipment on the buildings.)
that should help you guys. |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:00:00 -
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i guess that since everything has gotten nerfed to hell, all that's left that's actually doing its job is the forge, yet i have to say that the proto assault version needs a fire rate nerf, it fires too fast for that much damage. |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:09:00 -
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noted, added it to the list |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:19:00 -
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THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:what about tank snipers hiding in their red zone up on the mountains?
cant go there , lucky if you get close , OS cant kill tanks , if they get hit even once they retread behind hill to repair and they rinse and repeat
on that, i can vouch for tank drivers.
that is the result of being nerfed every single build this game has ever had, we aren't going to charge directly into battle and let you kill us in seconds, we are going to stay where we can actually survive and do our job. that's you infantry's fault for nerfing tanks so much that our worth is nearly 0.
you told us to adapt or die when we were getting killed in the middle of the battle field, and when we adapted and went to the redline, you complain that we are cowards and need to go down to the battle field and let you kill us in 5 seconds, there is no pleasing you. |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:24:00 -
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Breakin Stuff wrote:more forge tears. Don't mind me while I collect.
tears?
this is just me giving simple steps to avoid you and actually make the game a little fun again. |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:25:00 -
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the proto assault forge is the only forge that needs redone stats, it does too much damage for such a fast rate of fire |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:40:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Funny how sniping isn't an opt- oh right, you guys get to hide behind terrible draw distance...
let the snipers do their job, the forge gun is a bit of a grey area here.. i don't even know how to compare it to real life **** |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:47:00 -
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Cosgar wrote:Void Echo wrote:Cosgar wrote:Funny how sniping isn't an opt- oh right, you guys get to hide behind terrible draw distance... let the snipers do their job, the forge gun is a bit of a grey area here.. i don't even know how to compare it to real life **** Real life has better model rendering...
real life:
better graphics complete core mechanics complete environment 0 lag takes 18 years for you get through the tutorial the only difficulty is impossibly hard. |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:49:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Oh, so the OP pretends vehicle users can't benefit from orbitals....and obviously never thought about counter sniping.
I suggest he takes his own advice and leaves the game...this game doesn't need more people who aren't clever enough to come up with counter tactics.
it is counter tactics, and in case you didn't know, tanks cant see anyone on top of buildings, oh wait i didn't notice that you don't drive tanks, stop acting like you know them.
also stop trolling, im giving an actual way to avoid forge snipers, all your doing is trolling. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 18:55:00 -
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the only way to find a forge is by paying attention to the direction in which the shot is going, if you can do that, youl find the forge |
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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:17:00 -
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Bettie Boop 2100190003 wrote:Cosgar wrote:Void Echo wrote:Cosgar wrote:Funny how sniping isn't an opt- oh right, you guys get to hide behind terrible draw distance... let the snipers do their job, the forge gun is a bit of a grey area here.. i don't even know how to compare it to real life **** Real life has better model rendering... Unfortunately most gamers have eye sight that only registers objects in the 1-3 meter range.
gamers on here that is. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:36:00 -
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R'adeh Hunt wrote:Void Echo wrote:R'adeh Hunt wrote:Oh, so the OP pretends vehicle users can't benefit from orbitals....and obviously never thought about counter sniping.
I suggest he takes his own advice and leaves the game...this game doesn't need more people who aren't clever enough to come up with counter tactics. it is counter tactics, and in case you didn't know, tanks cant see anyone on top of buildings, oh wait i didn't notice that you don't drive tanks, stop acting like you know them. also stop trolling, im giving an actual way to avoid forge snipers, all your doing is trolling. You whining about tanks not being able to kill certain foot soldiers is like me whining about bot being able to kill tanks with a scrambler pistol scout Forge guns are a COUNTER to tanks...just like tanks are a COUNTER to non-AV foot soldiers. You expect to simply stomp EVERYONE in a tank unopposed...which is beyond clownish. You aren't giving a way to avoid forge snipers, you're simply here to whine and demand an unjustified nerf. If a forge sniper can hit you, other players in your team can hit him too.
please quote where have i ever complained about not being able to kill certain infantry players.
id also like to remind you that there is a difference between complaining and giving facts, it seems you dont |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:38:00 -
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Operative 1171 Aajli wrote:Void Echo wrote:here are some steps to counter them.
for Vehicles:
Step 1- locate the forge sniper. Step 2- get to some point of the map where he cant get you. (impossible i know) Step 3- make sure your the only one in that area. Step 4- recall your vehicle. Step 5- leave the game and go to a game that's actually playable.
for Infantry:
Step 1- locate the forge sniper Step 2- have the squad leader place a defend order on one of the people in your squad. Step 3- get an orbital. Step 4- use the orbital on the cowards at the top of the buildings. (this will also destroy all equipment on the buildings.)
OR
Step 1- leave the game
that should help you guys. OR Accept that snipers are a valuable part of the game. OR Befriend the forge gunner. Get him to tell you his home address. Go find him in RL and kick his butt. THEN Leave the game... But satisfied.
A for effort but post is a 1/10 |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:40:00 -
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to all the trolls here, i havent once complained about the forges in this thread besides the ONLY post about the prototype forge..
you guys that are trolling are pathetic, forge sniping is not a valuable tactic, and thus i gave you victims 2 way to deal with you, and now your going on a rant telling everyone that they are meant to let you kill them without any possible way of countering you. |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 19:46:00 -
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1. no im not, tanks can kill any infantry soldier, the only ones we cant kill are you who hide on top of buildings where NOBODY can get to you, including infantry.
2. forges are not soley anti vehicle weapons, in the description, they say "anti-material" basically explaining that they can destroy everything like the tanks.
3. in my history of being on the forums, i have NEVER said i want to be invincible to weaponry nor have i ever wanted to be OP, your definition of OP is the opposite class to your being balanced against you so they actually stand a chance against you.
4. yes i am giving a way to avoid you, there is only one post in this thread about wanting a change, the 1st post of this thread indicated nothing of wanting a nerf. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:00:00 -
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to the trolls, GTFO my thread |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 20:33:00 -
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^ anyone else? |
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Posted - 2013.08.21 21:06:00 -
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this isn't a nerf av thread. |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:06:00 -
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THUNDERGROOVE wrote:Void Echo wrote: Step 2- get to some point of the map where he cant get you. (impossible i know)
lol'd range is only 300, even less if you take into account they are 100 meters in the air, most times. Just a bitter tank driver, I tell ya
iv been hunted by forge snipers and i can tell you by personal experience that the only way they couldn't hit me was if i was behind cover, even across the map, i had to be behind cover to get away from their power. |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:07:00 -
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Sgt Kirk wrote:Void Echo wrote:THE TRAINSPOTTER wrote:what about tank snipers hiding in their red zone up on the mountains?
cant go there , lucky if you get close , OS cant kill tanks , if they get hit even once they retread behind hill to repair and they rinse and repeat on that, i can vouch for tank drivers. that is the result of being nerfed every single build this game has ever had, we aren't going to charge directly into battle and let you kill us in seconds, we are going to stay where we can actually survive and do our job. that's you infantry's fault for nerfing tanks so much that our worth is nearly 0. you told us to adapt or die when we were getting killed in the middle of the battle field, and when we adapted and went to the redline, you complain that we are cowards and need to go down to the battle field and let you kill us in 5 seconds, there is no pleasing you. Rail tankers never (hardly) ever did go into battle. A large majority of people who redline rail tanked a year ago are gone or nowhere near as active but the red line cowardice never did go away. Although it was a little bit harder back then since the maps required you to move a little bit out of your safety area to get a view of the map. I do agree that tanks have been nerfed too much but people are always going to hide in the redline and be pansys until there is a consequence for it. Further more, A Railgun tanks shouldn't charge directly within battle, that's pretty stupid in my opinion. They should keep a distance (however redlining is over the top). The fighting style of the shield tank is more tactical than the armor tank and people fail to realise that. You can't use a Caldari shield tank as a brawler all out combat tank because they weren't built for that. The Caldari prefer to take a tactical approach and attack from range. (Take note of the Rail Turret and Missile turret) Believe it or not, Caldari Missile launcher tanks can easily kill a Gallente armor tank as long as people actually think about engagements and not charge straight into a hornets nest.
true, there have always been redline tankers, but now more so than ever because of how ****** tanks are and people don't want to lose their investments, weve been nerfed to near uselessness and infantry wonder why we are redlining.. |
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Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:09:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:ladwar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:The Forge Gun is fine just the way it is! Don't believe me just ask CCP. Better yet go try it for yourself! If you really think sniping with the FG is easy go do it! I'm gonna tell you right now you are in for a big surprise. it was a surprise of easy it was... counter sniper snipers because of abusing rendering and all the infantry get mad at me w/ hate mail. LOL stop it or prove it! You know, I hear about all of this "rendering sucks" and all this other crap everyone says on the forums. It doesn't stop snipers from tagging me in every single match I play from every possible location one could fathom and well out of FG range I might add. I have had redline rail tanks snipe me as I was trying to take out a DS. I have been hit by snipers from deep in enemy redline while I am on the other side of the map. **** I get on a tower and get sniped with damn Duvalle AR's from half the map away! There is nothing "easy" about getting in the largest, slowest suit in the game, and using a gun that takes as long or longer to charge as it does for a standard AR to take me out! There is nothing "easy" about hitting a target from 100m with a gun that can not even ADS! There is nothing "easy" about scoring direct hits with with the Assault Forge Gun. Unless, of course, the enemy is a 'tard and just stands perfectly still for the 2.5 seconds it takes to charge. In which case thank you scrub. EDIT: I have never not even once got a FG kill using splash damage! Every single infantry kill I have gotten was a direct hit! I use the Assault FG and I do not sit in a tower like a coward!
there is also nothing easy about killing you if your on top of a building, nor is there anything easy about avoiding you in order to survive. |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:19:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:I forgot they removed sniper rifles from the game lol, snipers can't do **** to the fatty. It's either another FG fatty or an orbital. A hidden redline rail tank could also work. And 100% agreed with OP. -XOXO Then why do I get taken out by snipers all the time? Get a kaalakiota or some other tactical sniper rifle and see how fast you drop the biggest, slowest dropsuit in the game-especially if said fatty is on an open rooftop! Step 1 go to adjacent rooftop! Step 2 fire 2 - 3 consecutive rounds into fatty's head! Step 3 resume normal gameplay!
funny how snipers are now on the front line and forges are now on buildings....
its like theyv switched roles lol.. but seriously forges aren't meant to be sniped with. |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:21:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Void Echo wrote: there is also nothing easy about killing you if your on top of a building, nor is there anything easy about avoiding you in order to survive.
You aren't avoiding me, because I don't get on rooftops. I will say though that if you are standing still you will die from a FG. If you keep moving you will not. FG has 16 rounds total at advanced level. If I can't one shot you, I'm going to find another target. I'm not going to sit there and waste all my ammo trying-and failing to kill you with LOL FG splash damage.
oh contrare, i was moving and i was still killed by one of you..
i wasn't staying still, i was moving my ass to the nearest cover to avoid the fire power, yet i was still killed while i was moving...
by your logic that's impossible right? |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:24:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Void Echo wrote:
iv been hunted by forge snipers and i can tell you by personal experience that the only way they couldn't hit me was if i was behind cover, even across the map, i had to be behind cover to get away from their power.
You made it to that cover though didn't you! Would you have if you were being spammed with Mass Driver splash damage? NO! It takes skill to get direct hits with a FG from that far away. Void Echo wrote: true, there have always been redline tankers, but now more so than ever because of how ****** tanks are and people don't want to lose their investments, weve been nerfed to near uselessness and infantry wonder why we are redlining..
Wasn't really complaining about it, but now that you mention it, there is no counter for redline shield tanks is there?
1. its a mix of results, i will die sometimes and i will survive other times...
2. yes there is a counter, actually there are multiple counters, the ones i commonly know about are as follows:
orbital strikes. dropship gunners (they can go inside the redline as long as they are not near the ground) suicide AVers. |
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Echo Galactic Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:25:00 -
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Big miku wrote:Takes one sniper to ruin the Roof top Forge guns fun. Don't headshots have a 5x multiplier? How hard is it to hit a heavies head? Not hard cause I've been doing it all day.
actually, it took one forge gunner on the rooftop to ruin the sniper's fun, that's why your seeing all these forge threads pop up.. |
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Echo Galactic Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:26:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Void Echo wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Void Echo wrote: there is also nothing easy about killing you if your on top of a building, nor is there anything easy about avoiding you in order to survive.
You aren't avoiding me, because I don't get on rooftops. I will say though that if you are standing still you will die from a FG. If you keep moving you will not. FG has 16 rounds total at advanced level. If I can't one shot you, I'm going to find another target. I'm not going to sit there and waste all my ammo trying-and failing to kill you with LOL FG splash damage. oh contrare, i was moving and i was still killed by one of you.. i wasn't staying still, i was moving my ass to the nearest cover to avoid the fire power, yet i was still killed while i was moving... by your logic that's impossible right? Not impossible, but give that guy credit especially if he was using an assault FG! Those autofire when fully charged just like the turrets. You cannot ADS with a FG. Trust me it takes a hell of a lot of skill to hit a moving target with an assault FG at any range!
no i will not give him credit because the prototype assault forge is not something to be proud of imho, its right next to AV grenades on my list of OP weapons. but at the moment, AV grenades are the priority..
but still, this is NOT a nerf AV thread. |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:30:00 -
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Master Jaraiya wrote:Void Echo wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Void Echo wrote:
iv been hunted by forge snipers and i can tell you by personal experience that the only way they couldn't hit me was if i was behind cover, even across the map, i had to be behind cover to get away from their power.
You made it to that cover though didn't you! Would you have if you were being spammed with Mass Driver splash damage? NO! It takes skill to get direct hits with a FG from that far away. Void Echo wrote: true, there have always been redline tankers, but now more so than ever because of how ****** tanks are and people don't want to lose their investments, weve been nerfed to near uselessness and infantry wonder why we are redlining..
Wasn't really complaining about it, but now that you mention it, there is no counter for redline shield tanks is there? 1. its a mix of results, i will die sometimes and i will survive other times... 2. yes there is a counter, actually there are multiple counters, the ones i commonly know about are as follows: orbital strikes. dropship gunners (they can go inside the redline as long as they are not near the ground) suicide AVers. You must be doing it wrong. I have rarely kill any halfway decent tank with an orbital strike. They always hit reppers and irk out. I stopped wasting orbitals on tanks months ago.
im actually a tanker lol, im not infantry...
and yes orbitals do work if you time it right.
and i haven't been doing anything wrong besides trying to go after a militia tank while a forge was guarding in a logi lav... |
Void Echo
Echo Galactic Industries
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:40:00 -
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listen guys.. this thread is not meant for argument..
it is merely a public message for how to avoid forge snipers and be able to enjoy the game a little. |
Void Echo
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Posted - 2013.08.22 01:03:00 -
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the plasma cannon looks like an anti-infantry weapon... at least that's what iv seen |
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