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Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:34:00 -
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The Forge Gun is fine just the way it is! Don't believe me just ask CCP.
Better yet go try it for yourself!
If you really think using the FG in any way, shape, or form is easy go do it! I'm gonna tell you right now you are in for a big surprise! |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
532
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:59:00 -
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ladwar wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:The Forge Gun is fine just the way it is! Don't believe me just ask CCP. Better yet go try it for yourself! If you really think sniping with the FG is easy go do it! I'm gonna tell you right now you are in for a big surprise. it was a surprise of easy it was... counter sniper snipers because of abusing rendering and all the infantry get mad at me w/ hate mail.
LOL stop it or prove it!
You know, I hear about all of this "rendering sucks" and all this other crap everyone says on the forums. It doesn't stop snipers from tagging me in every single match I play from every possible location one could fathom and well out of FG range I might add.
I have had redline rail tanks snipe me as I was trying to take out a DS.
I have been hit by snipers from deep in enemy redline while I am on the other side of the map. **** I get on a tower and get sniped with damn Duvalle AR's from half the map away!
There is nothing "easy" about getting in the largest, slowest suit in the game, and using a gun that takes as long or longer to charge as it does for a standard AR to take me out!
There is nothing "easy" about hitting a target from 100m with a gun that can not even ADS!
There is nothing "easy" about scoring direct hits with with the Assault Forge Gun. Unless, of course, the enemy is a 'tard and just stands perfectly still for the 2.5 seconds it takes to charge. In which case thank you scrub.
EDIT: I have never not even once got a FG kill using splash damage! Every single infantry kill I have gotten was a direct hit! I use the Assault FG and I do not sit in a tower like a coward! |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
532
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:09:00 -
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FATPrincess - XOXO wrote:N1ck Comeau wrote:I forgot they removed sniper rifles from the game lol, snipers can't do **** to the fatty. It's either another FG fatty or an orbital. A hidden redline rail tank could also work. And 100% agreed with OP. -XOXO
Then why do I get taken out by snipers all the time? Get a kaalakiota or some other tactical sniper rifle and see how fast you drop the biggest, slowest dropsuit in the game-especially if said fatty is on an open rooftop!
Step 1 go to adjacent rooftop!
Step 2 fire 2 - 3 consecutive rounds into fatty's head!
Step 3 resume normal gameplay! |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
532
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:19:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:
iv been hunted by forge snipers and i can tell you by personal experience that the only way they couldn't hit me was if i was behind cover, even across the map, i had to be behind cover to get away from their power.
You made it to that cover though didn't you! Would you have if you were being spammed with Mass Driver splash damage? NO!
It takes skill to get direct hits with a FG from that far away.
Void Echo wrote: true, there have always been redline tankers, but now more so than ever because of how ****** tanks are and people don't want to lose their investments, weve been nerfed to near uselessness and infantry wonder why we are redlining..
Wasn't really complaining about it, but now that you mention it, there is no counter for redline shield tanks is there? |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
532
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:25:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Void Echo wrote: there is also nothing easy about killing you if your on top of a building, nor is there anything easy about avoiding you in order to survive.
You aren't avoiding me, because I don't get on rooftops. I will say though that if you are standing still you will die from a FG. If you keep moving you will not. FG has 16 rounds total at advanced level. If I can't one shot you, I'm going to find another target. I'm not going to sit there and waste all my ammo trying-and failing to kill you with LOL FG splash damage. oh contrare, i was moving and i was still killed by one of you.. i wasn't staying still, i was moving my ass to the nearest cover to avoid the fire power, yet i was still killed while i was moving... by your logic that's impossible right?
Not impossible, but give that guy credit especially if he was using an assault FG! Those autofire when fully charged just like the turrets. You cannot ADS with a FG. Trust me it takes a hell of a lot of skill to hit a moving target with an assault FG at any range! |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
532
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:29:00 -
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Void Echo wrote:Master Jaraiya wrote:Void Echo wrote:
iv been hunted by forge snipers and i can tell you by personal experience that the only way they couldn't hit me was if i was behind cover, even across the map, i had to be behind cover to get away from their power.
You made it to that cover though didn't you! Would you have if you were being spammed with Mass Driver splash damage? NO! It takes skill to get direct hits with a FG from that far away. Void Echo wrote: true, there have always been redline tankers, but now more so than ever because of how ****** tanks are and people don't want to lose their investments, weve been nerfed to near uselessness and infantry wonder why we are redlining..
Wasn't really complaining about it, but now that you mention it, there is no counter for redline shield tanks is there? 1. its a mix of results, i will die sometimes and i will survive other times... 2. yes there is a counter, actually there are multiple counters, the ones i commonly know about are as follows: orbital strikes. dropship gunners (they can go inside the redline as long as they are not near the ground) suicide AVers.
You must be doing it wrong. I have rarely kill any halfway decent tank with an orbital strike. They always hit reppers and irk out. I stopped wasting orbitals on tanks months ago.
Dropship seems a proper counter if it can stay in the air long enough. Those Viper DS are pretty fast and can easily evade FGs.
LOL Suicide AV |
Master Jaraiya
Ultramarine Corp
532
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Posted - 2013.08.22 00:37:00 -
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Vicious Minotaur wrote:Some general sentiments on FGs:
I use the FG almost exclusively in areas accessible without usage of vehicles, and I have been able to easily take out any FG snipers on top of buildings w/ my DAU. (On an alt)
I've also been on top of some of the tallest buildings, just to see what all the fuss was about, and I immediately quit as I was being constantly harassed by snipers that I could not hit, nor even see. Yeah, those snipers may not have gotten a +50 from me, but they still "won."
For infantry, well, I've been in matches with good FG snipers as I was using my logi alt, and have been able to avoid being slaughtered by utilizing these amazing things called tactics. I can literally count the number of times I have been killed by Forge Guns on one hand, after over 3 months of playing, and having been in numerous matches with the likes of DS 10 and dozens of other good Forge Gun users. Tactics, the best defence against anything.
As for vehicles, well, it is not the fault of Forge Guns that Tanks have been nerfed repeatedly. It is not the fault of Forge Guns that Dropships are awful. Vehicles are definitely in need of some CCP love.
Not even all Dropships are awful. I was in a match yesterday where It took 3 FG shots to get through half i'ts armor. By that time the DS evaded around a tall building, then came around behind me and blasted me. It never once showed up on my tacnet. |
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