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Sinboto Simmons wrote:

Smooth Assassin wrote:

Sinboto Simmons wrote:

Smooth Assassin wrote:

So i've been wondering i have extra speed than the other classes but i feel the same speed even though i get 0.4 movement speed and 0.3 sprint speed bonus its not enough and i terribly weak with both my armor and shield

now you know how scout's feel lol

I know but they got alot of speed and proto gets a fair amount of shield with complex

Best thing I can suggest is getting a good light weapon/ sidearm combo due to the minny assault's racial bonus stack shields put armor in the lows to get the max tank, also the minny assault gets 1.0 armor rep on it's base stats so use that to make your armor rep as good as you can.

I have 390 shield and 167 armor and i die like a possum, cos i'm too poor to afford proto mimatar

I use a GEK assault rifle and as a sidearm, a core flaylock pistol

I have 3 complex shield extenders and 1 basic ferroscale armor and 1 basic cpu extender

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Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 43	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:55:00 - [1] - Quote So i've been wondering i have extra speed than the other classes but i feel the same speed even though i get 0.4 movement speed and 0.3 sprint speed bonus its not enough and i terribly weak with both my armor and shield
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1009	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:57:00 - [2] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: So i've been wondering i have extra speed than the other classes but i feel the same speed even though i get 0.4 movement speed and 0.3 sprint speed bonus its not enough and i terribly weak with both my armor and shield now you know how scout's feel lol
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 43	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:58:00 - [3] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: So i've been wondering i have extra speed than the other classes but i feel the same speed even though i get 0.4 movement speed and 0.3 sprint speed bonus its not enough and i terribly weak with both my armor and shield now you know how scout's feel lol I know but they got alot of speed and proto gets a fair amount of shield with complex
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1009	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:02:00 - [4] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: So i've been wondering i have extra speed than the other classes but i feel the same speed even though i get 0.4 movement speed and 0.3 sprint speed bonus its not enough and i terribly weak with both my armor and shield now you know how scout's feel lol I know but they got alot of speed and proto gets a fair amount of shield with complex Best thing I can suggest is getting a good light weapon/ sidearm combo due to the minny assault's racial bonus stack shields put armor in the lows to get the max tank, also the minny assault gets 1.0 armor rep on it's base stats so use that to make your armor rep as good as you can.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 43	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:07:00 - [5] - Quote Sinboto Simmons wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: So i've been wondering i have extra speed than the other classes but i feel the same speed even though i get 0.4 movement speed and 0.3 sprint speed bonus its not enough and i terribly weak with both my armor and shield now you know how scout's feel lol I know but they got alot of speed and proto gets a fair amount of shield with complex Best thing I can suggest is getting a good light weapon/ sidearm combo due to the minny assault's racial bonus stack shields put armor in the lows to get the max tank, also the minny assault gets 1.0 armor rep on it's base stats so use that to make your armor rep as good as you can. I have 390 shield and 167 armor and i die like a possum, cos i'm too poor to afford proto mimatar I use a GEK assault rifle and as a sidearm, a core flaylock pistol I have 3 complex shield extenders and 1 basic ferroscale armor and 1 basic cpu extender
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 180	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:10:00 - [6] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: I have 390 shield and 167 armor and i die like a possum, cos i'm too poor to afford proto mimatar I use a GEK assault rifle and as a sidearm, a core flaylock pistol I have 3 complex shield extenders and 1 basic ferroscale armor and 1 basic cpu extender Don't be afraid of Plates over Ferroscale - you will still be faster than any other medium class out there. Also that much reliance on shields and I'm surprised at no Regulator to help keep them up
Beren Hurin The Vanguardians 1133	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:15:00 - [7] - Quote They also have a bigger stamina pool/run time. This amounts to about a 25% bigger sprinting difference vs. caldari/gallente assaults. Stamina matters for what seems to hypothetically be the minmatar play style, which is Hack/Smash/Slash/Dash. Their speed lets them get in range, then they equip weapons that they can do quick damage with while they stay selective with their engagements. But their stamina pool means that they can sprint to and from objectives very quickly and efficiently.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 718	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:22:00 - [8] - Quote Minmatar in EVE are hit and run with weaker tanks than all other races. It's all about the speed and damage. To put this in perspective: While the Amarr Logi is an Assault/Logi. The Minmatar Assault is the closest thing to an Assault/Scout you're going to get.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3077	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:23:00 - [9] - Quote I'm not feeling particularly weak- use your speed to your advantage.
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 122	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:25:00 - [10] - Quote How many shield extenders do you have? Shields have 'weight' and slow you down - this goes for vehicles and dropsuits. Try running same suit with 0 shield extenders, you will notice a difference. Why do shields have weight? ask CCP but don't be surprised if you get a ban for daring to ask that question....

Cody Sietz Bullet Cluster 751	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:25:00 - [11] - Quote broonfondle majikthies wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: I have 390 shield and 167 armor and i die like a possum, cos i'm too poor to afford proto mimatar I use a GEK assault rifle and as a sidearm, a core flaylock pistol I have 3 complex shield extenders and 1 basic ferroscale armor and 1 basic cpu extender Don't be afraid of Plates over Ferroscale - you will still be faster than any other medium class out there. Also that much reliance on shields and I'm surprised at no Regulator to help keep them up yeah, you can fit a basic plate for only 10 CPU and get 60 HP.
Beren Hurin The Vanguardians 1134	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:26:00 - [12] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: How many shield extenders do you have? Shields have 'weight' and slow you down - this goes for vehicles and dropsuits. Try running same suit with 0 shield extenders, you will notice a difference. Why do shields have weight? ask CCP but don't be surprised if you get a ban for daring to ask that question.... There is no speed penalty. Prove this with a youtube video.
Vespasian Andendare Subsonic Synthesis Alpha Wolf Pack 121	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:38:00 - [13] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: How many shield extenders do you have? Shields have 'weight' and slow you down - this goes for vehicles and dropsuits. Try running same suit with 0 shield extenders, you will notice a difference. Why do shields have weight? ask CCP but don't be surprised if you get a ban for daring to ask that question.... Please don't post anymore. This is pure nonsense and what's more, it's absolutely wrong. Just, get out.
Poplo Furuya Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 690	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:39:00 - [14] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Sinboto Simmons wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: So i've been wondering i have extra speed than the other classes but i feel the same speed even though i get 0.4 movement speed and 0.3 sprint speed bonus its not enough and i terribly weak with both my armor and shield now you know how scout's feel lol I know but they got alot of speed and proto gets a fair amount of shield with complex Best thing I can suggest is getting a good light weapon/ sidearm combo due to the minny assault's racial bonus stack shields put armor in the lows to get the max tank, also the minny assault gets 1.0 armor rep on it's base stats so use that to make your armor rep as good as you can. I have 390 shield and 167 armor and i die like a possum, cos i'm too poor to afford proto mimatar I use a GEK assault rifle and as a sidearm, a core flaylock pistol I have 3 complex shield extenders and 1 basic ferroscale armor and 1 basic cpu extender That amount of tank is fine. Perhaps look to change how you fight rather than changing your suit? Removing one Extender for a Complex Damage might also put engagement TTKs in your favour so long as you don't get blindsided. ...209 shields and 155 armour has always seemed plenty tough on my ADV MinBas. One of these days I need to invest properly in tank.
Cosgar ParagonX 4466	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:43:00 - [15] - Quote Learn to master sprint strafing and you'll notice a difference.
Canari Elphus Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy 333	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:53:00 - [16] - Quote You really really need to spec into Dropsuit Shield Upgrades bud. Min-mater is best mater. I run only advanced fits in pub matches and I have 405 shields and 222 armor and have had a 4 KDR since I spec'd into Minnie Assault (~ 4k kills ago) I run 3 complex shields and 1 basic plate.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 44	Posted - 2013.08.21 18:07:00 - [17] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm not feeling particularly weak- use your speed to your advantage. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPEED WE NEED MORE!!!
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 346	Posted - 2013.08.21 19:43:00 - [18] - Quote Minmatar assault, complex extenders, scrambler pistol & smg combo (proto lvl), whatever plate fits, hive = godly Or you rig it and have something like a slightly slower scout (pretty much as fast as a standard Gallente scout) with more shields. Take advantage of the boni...cough smg cough
Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 402	Posted - 2013.08.21 19:46:00 - [19] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: So i've been wondering i have extra speed than the other classes but i feel the same speed even though i get 0.4 movement speed and 0.3 sprint speed bonus its not enough and i terribly weak with both my armor and shield I run min-assault. At proto I've been averaging about 2-3 deaths around, tops, and I feel like I can usually escape any sticky situation by just running away. You know, unless its a straight pub stomp and I turn a corner and find myself surrounded by 3-4 blackberries.
Cyrius Li-Moody The New Age Outlaws 729	Posted - 2013.08.21 19:47:00 - [20] - Quote Smooth Assassin wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm not feeling particularly weak- use your speed to your advantage. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPEED WE NEED MORE!!! This I can get behind.

Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 403	Posted - 2013.08.21 19:47:00 - [21] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: Try running same suit with 0 shield extenders Dude's trolling for sure.
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 44	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:11:00 - [22] - Quote Beren Hurin wrote: They also have a bigger stamina pool/run time. This amounts to about a 25% bigger sprinting difference vs. caldari/gallente assaults. Stamina matters for what seems to hypothetically be the minmatar play style, which is Hack/Smash/Slash/Dash. Their speed lets them get in range, then they equip weapons that they can do quick damage with while they stay selective with their engagements. But their stamina pool means that they can sprint to and from objectives very quickly and efficiently. I don't find it very effective, i always die trying to run away dodging bullets (AKA plasma rounds)
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 44	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:12:00 - [23] - Quote Happy Violentime wrote: How many shield extenders do you have? Shields have 'weight' and slow you down - this goes for vehicles and dropsuits. Try running same suit with 0 shield extenders, you will notice a difference. Why do shields have weight? ask CCP but don't be surprised if you get a ban for daring to ask that question.... Shut up!
Smooth Assassin Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation 44	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:13:00 - [24] - Quote Canari Elphus wrote: You really really need to spec into Dropsuit Shield Upgrades bud. Min-mater is best mater. I run only advanced fits in pub matches and I have 405 shields and 222 armor and have had a 4 KDR since I spec'd into Minnie Assault (~ 4k kills ago) I run 3 complex shields and 1 basic plate. Guess what i have level 3 natural shield and do you use non-ferroscale extenders?
Aria Gomes DUST CORE DARKSTAR ARMY 24	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:14:00 - [25] - Quote You can get ferroscale armor. No reduction to speed but you get less armor hp. You get 25 instead of 65. Also an enhanced cardiac regulator does wonders. Running with a sidearm makes you faster. Also cardic should be at 3 at least and biotics itself should be 4. You'll be faster. It juat takes time.
Cosgar ParagonX 4492	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:16:00 - [26] - Quote Cyrius Li-Moody wrote: Smooth Assassin wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: I'm not feeling particularly weak- use your speed to your advantage. WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SPEED WE NEED MORE!!! This I can get behind. Strafe speed is already godly, but sadly Caldari assaults are always going to have the spring speed advantage because of their slot layout.
Ranger SnakeBlood OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention 161	Posted - 2013.08.21 20:35:00 - [27] - Quote I would recomend using at least one complex damage mod on adv min assualt suits they cant tank as well as caldari so dont try to go full tank youll aways be second best use you speed to advantage flank get into a good position and gut them rince repeat always be on the look out for advantagous positions your natural speed will aid you in getting the jump on the hostiles. At first i thought the suit was a bit weak but then i realised its the flanker the skirmisher, if it needs a buf and i fear it might after the new patch with armor and strafe speed i think it needs better shield regen and less delay so its better at skirmishing than the cal suit, which would put it in a very good place for guerrilla teams.


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