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Tech Ohm Eaven
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Posted - 2013.08.21 09:12:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:BARDAS wrote:What are these patch notes that people speak of? Do you by chance mean the arcane scribble that magically appears 24 hours before a change takes place thus preventing any meaningful feedback from the community which could potentially prevent problems before they occur? If so yeah I may have heard about those once a while back. Its a shame we don't see them sooner for the aforementioned reason. How are you going to give us meaningful feedback before you even try the changes? Or is your brain so awesome that you can look into the future? And while we are on the subject of feedback, guys, a few one liners and a catch word here and there really doesn't help. If you really care about improving the game, then please structure your feedback in a way that will: 1. List specific issues and the circumstance when it happened. We then put these in a weekly report and discuss them with the dev team on ways to address this. 2. Provide insight on why you think this is happening, if you can. Translation, explain as best as you can on how to reproduce the error/bug you encountered. The patch notes are there to let players know what changes are coming so they can plan their gameplay accordingly, not so that people can theory craft before hand on how things will work before they actually try it.
Kind and Honorable Sir Philip Wang.
I saw where the notes included a 60% resist for Charbydis so in my humble estimation sometimes it may be best to get notes ahead of time to notice errors in balance before a build drops.
Thank you. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
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Posted - 2013.08.21 09:48:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm liking the new tone of the commander :-)
But in regards to the patch notes, sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can spot things people close to the project can't. Maths is maths afterall. Or the players can outright tell you how they are going to openly exploit a change.
We are the end customer and in the business word customers are a big part of the development process. The gaming world is no diffrent. Please work with us.
And stop using a live eniorment ti teat changes. It's bad practice full stop. Well, I agree but sometimes people forget that this is something really new, a MMO on a console that is working towards a full connection with another MMO on a different platform. So this is something akin to getting a man on the moon, and there were problems along the way there. Did people troll the NASA space program when things didn't go according to plan? Or did they get back on the horse and help provide solutions? We do listen to player feedback and some of them do make it into the game. It would be a lie to say that is not so. I know that it's taken longer than most of you on the forums would like, but it does take time to workout a solution when one is trodding down a path never traveled. A few of you on the forums have been with us all this time, so I am just asking you guys to keep on providing helpful feedback and a little less hate. Hope that's not too much to ask.
Then BEFORE the next Event post a thread asking the playerbase what Event rewards we want.
Doing it this way shows the playerbase that actual feedback about the game is being evaluated .
I.e. list three Event rewards that you want and what format to get them i.e. revives, heals, kills , etc. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
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Posted - 2013.08.21 12:57:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm liking the new tone of the commander :-)
But in regards to the patch notes, sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can spot things people close to the project can't. Maths is maths afterall. Or the players can outright tell you how they are going to openly exploit a change.
We are the end customer and in the business word customers are a big part of the development process. The gaming world is no diffrent. Please work with us.
And stop using a live eniorment ti teat changes. It's bad practice full stop. Well, I agree but sometimes people forget that this is something really new, a MMO on a console that is working towards a full connection with another MMO on a different platform. So this is something akin to getting a man on the moon, and there were problems along the way there. Did people troll the NASA space program when things didn't go according to plan? Or did they get back on the horse and help provide solutions? We do listen to player feedback and some of them do make it into the game. It would be a lie to say that is not so. I know that it's taken longer than most of you on the forums would like, but it does take time to workout a solution when one is trodding down a path never traveled. A few of you on the forums have been with us all this time, so I am just asking you guys to keep on providing helpful feedback and a little less hate. Hope that's not too much to ask. Then BEFORE the next Event post a thread asking the playerbase what Event rewards we want. Doing it this way shows the playerbase that actual feedback about the game is being evaluated . I.e. list three Event rewards that you want and what format to get them i.e. revives, heals, kills , etc. OK Tech Ohm Eaven, but keep in mind that if you want something new, whether its new items or something that is not already in game, then it will take time for us to develop it.
1- Choice makes for happy customers/consumers.
Event Rewards perhaps maybe better when the consumers can choose what they want i.e.
"Players participating in Event may choose three Event Rewards of the following list:
Three SCOUT Event rewards
OR
Three HEAVY Event rewards
OR
Three ASSAULT Event rewards
OR
Three LOGISTICS Event rewards
OR
Three LAV Event rewards
OR
Three HAV Event rewards
OR
Three HAV Event rewards
This way no matter what specialty the folks are running they get three and ONLY! three Event rewards that fit what they want.
Now we need to figure out what mods/suits/weapons/vehicles/mods from the Marketplace can fit the next Event rewards.
Please can you post a list and we can try a yay! or nay! on a per item basis to try and get an Event rewards list that will make every specialty feel like they are also getting specific rewards?
Thank you Sir Philip Wang. |
Tech Ohm Eaven
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Posted - 2013.08.21 13:12:00 -
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Arkena Wyrnspire wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:
How are you going to give us meaningful feedback before you even try the changes? Or is your brain so awesome that you can look into the future? And while we are on the subject of feedback, guys, a few one liners and a catch word here and there really doesn't help. If you really care about improving the game, then please structure your feedback in a way that will:
The patch notes are there to let players know what changes are coming so they can plan their gameplay accordingly, not so that people can theory craft before hand on how things will work before they actually try it.
I would like to point out that the community saw the new plates being bad immediately. It's hardly going to be 100% accurate feedback, but it's quite easy to tell if something's very wrong just from the patchnotes.
AGREED.
Longtime players can see just from the patchnotes when something is wonky.
I.e. IF a patchnote said " BUFF Forgegun damage to twenty thousand per shot with splash of ten thousand"
Then just from reading that we know, we KNOW!! that things are bad since we know what damage ranges the weapons need to do versus vehicles. |
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