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Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.08.21 09:17:00 -
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Tech Ohm Eaven wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:BARDAS wrote:What are these patch notes that people speak of? Do you by chance mean the arcane scribble that magically appears 24 hours before a change takes place thus preventing any meaningful feedback from the community which could potentially prevent problems before they occur? If so yeah I may have heard about those once a while back. Its a shame we don't see them sooner for the aforementioned reason. How are you going to give us meaningful feedback before you even try the changes? Or is your brain so awesome that you can look into the future? And while we are on the subject of feedback, guys, a few one liners and a catch word here and there really doesn't help. If you really care about improving the game, then please structure your feedback in a way that will: 1. List specific issues and the circumstance when it happened. We then put these in a weekly report and discuss them with the dev team on ways to address this. 2. Provide insight on why you think this is happening, if you can. Translation, explain as best as you can on how to reproduce the error/bug you encountered. The patch notes are there to let players know what changes are coming so they can plan their gameplay accordingly, not so that people can theory craft before hand on how things will work before they actually try it. Kind and Honorable Sir Philip Wang. I saw where the notes included a 60% resist for Charbydis so in my humble estimation sometimes it may be best to get notes ahead of time to notice errors in balance before a build drops. Thank you.
Aren't you referring to the "60% HP buff to LAV's" in 1.1 notes?
And yeah, that is a great example honestly.
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Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.08.21 09:52:00 -
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CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:steadyhand amarr wrote:I'm liking the new tone of the commander :-)
But in regards to the patch notes, sometimes a fresh pair of eyes can spot things people close to the project can't. Maths is maths afterall. Or the players can outright tell you how they are going to openly exploit a change.
We are the end customer and in the business word customers are a big part of the development process. The gaming world is no diffrent. Please work with us.
And stop using a live eniorment ti teat changes. It's bad practice full stop. Well, I agree but sometimes people forget that this is something really new, a MMO on a console that is working towards a full connection with another MMO on a different platform. So this is something akin to getting a man on the moon, and there were problems along the way there. Did people troll the NASA space program when things didn't go according to plan? Or did they get back on the horse and help provide solutions? We do listen to player feedback and some of them do make it into the game. It would be a lie to say that is not so. I know that it's taken longer than most of you on the forums would like, but it does take time to workout a solution when one is trodding down a path never traveled. A few of you on the forums have been with us all this time, so I am just asking you guys to keep on providing helpful feedback and a little less hate. Hope that's not too much to ask.
I see your point although I really can't help myself, I have to say. NASA didn't have paying customers.. |
Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.08.21 10:14:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:When we want you to? Now go back to killing clones please. It'll be out soon enough either this week or the next at the latest. :( i cant kill anybody... i accidentally speced into vehicles... lol....im sorry.....so much yes
Maybe you should talk to a good Vehicle specialist like Mary Sedillo? He doesn't seem to have a problem killing anything.
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Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.08.21 10:44:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Another Heavy SOB wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Anmol Singh wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote:When we want you to? Now go back to killing clones please. It'll be out soon enough either this week or the next at the latest. :( i cant kill anybody... i accidentally speced into vehicles... lol....im sorry.....so much yes Maybe you should talk to a good Vehicle specialist like Mary Sedillo? He doesn't seem to have a problem killing anything. youre pretty funny. i do pretty fine in tanks thanks. never heard of this mary sedillo guy, n im one of those good vehicle specialists your talking about from over a year ago in beta...w/e welcome to the forums
Maybe if STB actually fought their own battles instead having AE ring you'd have had your tank destroyed by him.
At a 7.2 K/D I'd say he's pretty damn good, especially considering vehicles can't kill anything.... |
Another Heavy SOB
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Posted - 2013.08.21 23:36:00 -
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Dimmu Borgir II wrote:Kain Spero wrote:CCP Cmdr Wang wrote: How are you going to give us meaningful feedback before you even try the changes? Or is your brain so awesome that you can look into the future? And while we are on the subject of feedback, guys, a few one liners and a catch word here and there really doesn't help. If you really care about improving the game, then please structure your feedback in a way that will:
1. List specific issues and the circumstance when it happened. We then put these in a weekly report and discuss them with the dev team on ways to address this.
2. Provide insight on why you think this is happening, if you can. Translation, explain as best as you can on how to reproduce the error/bug you encountered.
The patch notes are there to let players know what changes are coming so they can plan their gameplay accordingly, not so that people can theory craft before hand on how things will work before they actually try it.
I don't understand this attitude. This really seems like the opposite direction from the progress trying be made from the CPM's open letter to the meeting between CCP and the CPM had to discuss communication. It seems to go back on some of the things CCP ensured they were going to make progress on. I'm not really sure what to take away from this. Dude, take away from this that you're nothing very important to the project, you're just here to liaise with the "complainers" and pass on anything that's useful, no-one here has a better idea of how to get down and dirty in the code and actually help with the game, that's something that the developers can look at from their stats and results, everyone here really over-estimate the value of their input! They just need to fix the code and balance the game day by day, month by month and to be honest, they'll do a great job of that without our input/interference, they're not dummies! Most of the people on this forum, however, are just that.
So we're supposed to believe you're a developer of some computer program somewhere. Yet you've somehow managed to fail any and every English class you've ever taken? Considering that gigantic run on sentence I'm inclined to call bullspit here. |
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