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Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.21 03:59:00 -
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Queue music before you start reading.
There are some things that are overlooked too often when making a game. The concept art and music are one of the few places that have the purity and essence of a game. So lets talk about New Eden, not just the fictional world CCP created a back story for, but the one where thousands of players live out their lives.
Whether they be mining asteroids, exploring wormholes, tracking markets, hunting pirates, fighting wars, building ships. hauling goods, ganking, or simply roaming from place to place looking for bounties. New Eden through EVE has opened up a whole organic world, where trade hubs have formed naturally, and the greatest events are player driven. Yet so much has been left absent from the experience. As of now PI is the only way to monetize on ground resources, and walking through your hanger is the only way to experience the universe on a human scale.
So where does that leave Dusts role? As of now I would be reluctant to call it part of New Eden in any way other than in name. Instead of exploring the stars you live the life of a mercenary. So as a merc we should be able to forge out own path and claim our spot in the universe.Yet, we have no freedom, which is against the very essence of a mercenary. As of now we are hired to fight for random corporations, who all reward us the same for our deeds and we have no choice in the matter. If we choose to fight for a faction, we are treated the same, but we still have a choice of who to fight for, even if loyalty isn't rewarded. I suppose we could start our own corporations and fight for land.... and make more clones... to do more fighting? To what end?
Here is where the dilemma comes in, all the depth, freedom, and scale that make EVE one of the greatest (IMO the greatest) MMOs of all time is absent. It isn't even in EVE with regards to DUST. A large scale war was fought in null sec, one of the largest in New Eden history and not a single shot in it was fired by a merc. This game can't hope to achieve greatness if it isn't ready to fully step into New Eden. I don't know where this game went wrong, but this is not New Eden.
It really makes me sad too, because I was looking forward to doing new things in EVE with relation to DUST, like becoming a pioneer in weapons manufacturing and logistics. The current setup has a non existent eceonomy, pulling it further from New Eden. Mercs are moved without any help or hindrance from ships in the sky, which is not something that should happen in this universe. New Eden is a place of freedom to fail or succeed through any means.
With that said I understand this game has a roadmap, but it needs to keep it's focus on becoming a part of New Eden. That was the selling point, that is what makes this game different, and that is what will make it last.
We need joint forums, joint dev teams, and joint player representation, so we can get these two worlds together as one New Eden. I support this game for CCP and their future vision, all I ask is that you don't forget who got you here, and listen to the citizens of New Eden. |
Jebediah Mayhew
Krusual Covert Operators Minmatar Republic
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Posted - 2013.08.21 04:08:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:Queue music before you start reading. There are some things that are overlooked too often when making a game. The concept art and music are one of the few places that have the purity and essence of a game. So lets talk about New Eden, not just the fictional world CCP created a back story for, but the one where thousands of players live out their lives. Whether they be mining asteroids, exploring wormholes, tracking markets, hunting pirates, fighting wars, building ships. hauling goods, ganking, or simply roaming from place to place looking for bounties. New Eden through EVE has opened up a whole organic world, where trade hubs have formed naturally, and the greatest events are player driven. Yet so much has been left absent from the experience. As of now PI is the only way to monetize on ground resources, and walking through your hanger is the only way to experience the universe on a human scale. So where does that leave Dusts role? As of now I would be reluctant to call it part of New Eden in any way other than in name. Instead of exploring the stars you live the life of a mercenary. So as a merc we should be able to forge out own path and claim our spot in the universe.Yet, we have no freedom, which is against the very essence of a mercenary. As of now we are hired to fight for random corporations, who all reward us the same for our deeds and we have no choice in the matter. If we choose to fight for a faction, we are treated the same, but we still have a choice of who to fight for, even if loyalty isn't rewarded. I suppose we could start our own corporations and fight for land.... and make more clones... to do more fighting? To what end? Here is where the dilemma comes in, all the depth, freedom, and scale that make EVE one of the greatest (IMO the greatest) MMOs of all time is absent. It isn't even in EVE with regards to DUST. A large scale war was fought in null sec, one of the largest in New Eden history and not a single shot in it was fired by a merc. This game can't hope to achieve greatness if it isn't ready to fully step into New Eden. I don't know where this game went wrong, but this is not New Eden. It really makes me sad too, because I was looking forward to doing new things in EVE with relation to DUST, like becoming a pioneer in weapons manufacturing and logistics. The current setup has a non existent eceonomy, pulling it further from New Eden. Mercs are moved without any help or hindrance from ships in the sky, which is not something that should happen in this universe. New Eden is a place of freedom to fail or succeed through any means. With that said I understand this game has a roadmap, but it needs to keep it's focus on becoming a part of New Eden. That was the selling point, that is what makes this game different, and that is what will make it last. We need joint forums, joint dev teams, and joint player representation, so we can get these two worlds together as one New Eden. I support this game for CCP and their future vision, all I ask is that you don't forget who got you here, and listen to the citizens of New Eden.
I fully support this, it's really my reason for being here. But I would say that I believe that CCP is working on this right now. It will not happen automatically, and it shouldn't take forever, but I think they are in fact working on it. |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.21 04:34:00 -
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Spoken like a true citizen of New Eden. |
Meeko Fent
Seituoda Taskforce Command Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.21 05:02:00 -
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Hmm.
Intriguing.
Freedom is good.
So is joint development corporations.
Make it so.
I will be the first to purchase a copy of the Sagaris HAV specs.
( I'm way to in persona) |
Synbot
Expert Intervention Caldari State
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Posted - 2013.08.21 05:28:00 -
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I highly support this. I hope that the true DUST dream, which is exactly what you stated, will not be forgotten. |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
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Posted - 2013.08.21 14:01:00 -
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I hate making posts like this because it really needs to be for both EVE and DUST, and without a joint forum I can never know if it's going to the right people. |
lithkul devant
Legions of Infinite Dominion
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Posted - 2013.08.21 16:15:00 -
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Tallen Ellecon wrote:I hate making posts like this because it really needs to be for both EVE and DUST, and without a joint forum I can never know if it's going to the right people.
Well I think you are really right about this...as mercs we heard nothing about the large scale EVE battles, we aren't getting video feeds, we are not getting news like they do which is ridiculous. As a merc you would be scowering the news for opportunities to strike it right or find someone to hire you for battles. We fight currently but we have no purpose, we have no bearing on anything at all, even if all the mercs in the game came together and wanted to do something, we would be stuck with having to do nothing. In short things that should be added are.
-news feeds to Dust coming from Eve -More of an ability to comunicate with Eve players -The ability to actually be of some use in New Eden -a forum that is Eve and Dust combined together |
Tallen Ellecon
KILL-EM-QUICK RISE of LEGION
670
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Posted - 2013.09.04 05:53:00 -
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I'd like to add that 1.4 saw a lot of additional material that contributes to the connection. The new battle finder setup goes a long way in the form of immersion. New maps and lighting bring the diversity of New Eden.
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Vyzion Eyri
The Southern Legion The Umbra Combine
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Posted - 2013.09.04 07:40:00 -
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Totally agree with the OP's premise.
However, the magnitude of the task is incredible. If we took one step every monthly update I'd be satisfied. For example, as mentioned above, the new battle finder layout.
Next month, perhaps when you jump from the MCC the planetary information scrolls across the bottom left of your screen, above HP bars.
Then after that, maybe there could be a 'number of ships in system' somewhere on the HUD.
Just little things first, as the core of the game is solidified. Then we can get to the big connections, like taking PC out of Molden Heath. |
Robert JD Niewiadomski
NULLIMPEX INC
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Posted - 2013.09.04 08:04:00 -
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Displaying permanently region, system, planet name, district name and sec level in top left corner of the screen will make this connection even more explicit. We have this while in MQ or on War Barge. Should be displayed in the battle as well. There is some place above scanner view. Or scanner could be slightly lowered.
Tallen, have you considered re-posting OP in DUST section of EVE Forum? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=topics&f=3172
If you have any trouble to do it i will gladly assist |
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