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Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 934	Posted - 2013.08.20 12:14:00 - [1] - Quote This is my crutch. There are many others like it, but this one is mine. My crutch is my best friend. It is my life. I must not master it as I must master my life. Without me, my crutch is fine. Without my crutch, I am useless. I must fire my crutch true. I must not shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will... lock on through cover first My crutch and I know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we spam, the noise of our burst, nor the invisible missiles we fire. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit... around cover and obstacles Before God I swear this creed: my crutch and myself are defenders of easy mode, we are not the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of easy mode. So be it, until there is no skill, Amen.
Repe Susi Rautaleijona Top Men. 582	Posted - 2013.08.20 12:15:00 - [2] - Quote Hasn't this gone too far already? You're one I see in every AV thread, and there's many of them. What's the point starting another one? I smell butthurt teenager.
Nitrobeacon Freek Coalition 51	Posted - 2013.08.20 12:31:00 - [3] - Quote Repe Susi wrote: Hasn't this gone too far already? You're one I see in every AV thread, and there's many of them. What's the point starting another one? I smell butthurt teenager. That's very rude of you assuming such things about someone's identity. Anyway I understand how the swarms can be a little over the top, especially since you can't counter attack them when they are behind cover safely launching salvos, getting close to them to get a better shot is just asking for lai dais.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 417	Posted - 2013.08.20 12:34:00 - [4] - Quote He got killed too many times by skilled Swarmers, that's what!
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 794	Posted - 2013.08.20 12:39:00 - [5] - Quote *think he calling you out man!* really? thought he just venting. *NA dude! He wants you to jump into the EON WAR. And go AGAINST THEM* Don't care enough about pc. But their will be quality tanks and ds there huh? *yeah dude! By the boat load! think of the destruction!* Been meaning to dust off (ha! I said dust) my proto gear, since I don't take it out in pubs. 13mil+ worth of it. *TEKKA GODS END SUIT. (PROTO) AND TEKKA GODS END AV SUIT. (PROTO) We can play around with them now!* Hm...
Zeylon Rho Subdreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 1945	Posted - 2013.08.20 12:43:00 - [6] - Quote There aren't exactly a lot AV options. You have swarm launchers, forge guns, AV nades, proxy mines, and plasma cannons. Plasma cannon is the only one people don't cry nerf for, probably because it came pre-nerfed. AV nades (for all their "power") come in very limited quantities with limited range. Proxy mines are laughable, they don't seem to trigger properly post-uprising, and they often self-destruct when being deployed. Forge guns require a heavy suit. That leaves Swarm Launchers for 90% of players. I guess players could suicide when they see a vehicle, and wait in the MCC till the next match. That doesn't seem like a great play strategy though.
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 417	Posted - 2013.08.20 12:53:00 - [7] - Quote An AV Swarm without cover is a dead AV Swarm. Sorry for not standing still right in your sight.
sixteensixty4 CAUSE 4 C0NCERN 55	Posted - 2013.08.20 13:26:00 - [8] - Quote Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped (granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though)
Knight Soiaire Better Hide R Die 1892	Posted - 2013.08.20 13:28:00 - [9] - Quote sixteensixty4 wrote: Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped (granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though) Yeah. Who the **** gave you the idea that you're supposed to be able to tank damage in a tank? Huh? Scrubs these days!
sixteensixty4 CAUSE 4 C0NCERN 55	Posted - 2013.08.20 13:32:00 - [10] - Quote Knight Soiaire wrote: sixteensixty4 wrote: Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped (granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though) Yeah. Who the **** gave you the idea that you're supposed to be able to tank damage in a tank? Huh? Scrubs these days! Yeah i get what your saying, but if you cant, why ******* try.... My tank lasted longer than yours and two others yesterday , IE: the whole match i havnt lost one in over 30 called down..... i dont get all the tears

Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 936	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:24:00 - [11] - Quote sixteensixty4 wrote: Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped (granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though) So a tank cannot tank any incoming damage Why the **** are vehicles in the game then?
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 796	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:32:00 - [12] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: sixteensixty4 wrote: Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped (granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though) So a tank cannot tank any incoming damage Why the **** are vehicles in the game then? same reason other FPS games have em. But if you notice they get blown up a lot too. But like those other games would it bother you taka if you went 42-10? if it meant they lowered greatly the isk you need to restock em? That's the major argument right? unlike most fps games, Tanks are bloody expensive. where other FPS games, they are free. but HAVs in those games are not doing 50-0. I have always been with those that say to ccp "LOWER THE DAMN ISK FOR HAVS AND DS ALREADY!"
sixteensixty4 CAUSE 4 C0NCERN 55	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:34:00 - [13] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: sixteensixty4 wrote: Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped (granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though) So a tank cannot tank any incoming damage Why the ** are vehicles in the game then? Last time im posting in a tank thread, you guys are beyond boring, dont you get tired repeating yourself over and over? why make a new ***** thread? Adapt untill 1.5, like a ton of us already have and quit ya crying, scrub
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 937	Posted - 2013.08.20 14:37:00 - [14] - Quote sixteensixty4 wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: sixteensixty4 wrote: Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped (granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though) So a tank cannot tank any incoming damage Why the ** are vehicles in the game then? Last time im posting in a tank thread, you guys are beyond boring, dont you get tired repeating yourself over and over? why make a new ***** thread? Adapt untill 1.5, like a ton of us already have and quit ya crying, scrub lol bad players tells me to adapt Its all ive done since the last 5 builds and 5 sets of nerfs while AV doesnt have to adapt or use teamwork lol
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 418	Posted - 2013.08.20 15:35:00 - [15] - Quote About those invisible projectiles... Ever wonder some of those could be coming from your 6?
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 940	Posted - 2013.08.20 16:22:00 - [16] - Quote Anarchide wrote: About those invisible projectiles... Ever wonder some of those could be coming from your 6? Invisible projecctiles hitting my 6 What difference does that make if they are still invisible?
sixteensixty4 CAUSE 4 C0NCERN 56	Posted - 2013.08.20 16:23:00 - [17] - Quote Anarchide wrote: About those invisible projectiles... Ever wonder some of those could be coming from your 6? There not, they just dont render when they are fired from a certain distance On the line harvest map they dont render if they fired from on top of them towers, you can call a tank in your spawn and see the invisable av for yourself It happens on other maps, but that seems to be the most common one on my other account i have proto swarms, you can tell when they are invisible to the tank, as he will blatently look confused and sometimes drive straight at where there coming from as opposed to just nipping around the corner he was right next to
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3057	Posted - 2013.08.20 16:36:00 - [18] - Quote What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons?
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 942	Posted - 2013.08.20 17:02:00 - [19] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners
Anarchide Greedy Bastards 418	Posted - 2013.08.20 17:09:00 - [20] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners I never encountered those bugs. The one I see, though, is my Swarm Launchers firing duds after I've released the trigger (It does a launch animation, but those rockets does nothing).

Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 386	Posted - 2013.08.20 17:12:00 - [21] - Quote Swarms aren't even that good. I've just got to advanced ones and they're fun to use. But anyone who thinks that they are "too good" against tanks is off their damn rocker.
R'adeh Hunt The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 337	Posted - 2013.08.20 18:06:00 - [22] - Quote Swarms are perfectly fine as they are. The only thing that needs changing is the removal of "invisible" swarms. Vehicle users really need to stop pretending they are somehow entitled to stomp through games unopposed.
Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3060	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:01:00 - [23] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners Plasma cannons have an extremely slow projectile speed (HAVs have outrun them before), fire on an arc, and are very weak in the advanced/prototype tiers, despite high fitting costs. Not to mention a common misfire glitch where the projectile doesn't deal damage. If you think we should use those instead, you're an idiot.
Charlotte O'Dell 0uter.Heaven EoN. 992	Posted - 2013.08.20 20:10:00 - [24] - Quote Don't give up the fight, Takahiro! I'm busy nerfing ARs so you and Exmaple need to pick up my slack.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 955	Posted - 2013.08.21 10:50:00 - [25] - Quote Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners Plasma cannons have an extremely slow projectile speed (HAVs have outrun them before), fire on an arc, and are very weak in the advanced/prototype tiers, despite high fitting costs. Not to mention a common misfire glitch where the projectile doesn't deal damage. If you think we should use those instead, you're an idiot. It would make a difference from crutch swarms I defo respect those who choose a difficult weapon to wield and make the game a challenge for them and it will get buffed and i wont mind that when it happens because it requires aim to use and you dont have any so you wont be able to use it I saw one in PC yday i lol'd with happyness
Lurchasaurus SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 899	Posted - 2013.08.21 11:07:00 - [26] - Quote Anarchide wrote: skilled Swarmers no
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 955	Posted - 2013.08.21 12:06:00 - [27] - Quote Lurchasaurus wrote: Anarchide wrote: skilled Swarmers no Coming from a crutch AV nader lol
pegasis prime BIG BAD W0LVES Eternal Syndicate 654	Posted - 2013.08.21 12:14:00 - [28] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners Plasma cannons have an extremely slow projectile speed (HAVs have outrun them before), fire on an arc, and are very weak in the advanced/prototype tiers, despite high fitting costs. Not to mention a common misfire glitch where the projectile doesn't deal damage. If you think we should use those instead, you're an idiot. It would make a difference from crutch swarms I defo respect those who choose a difficult weapon to wield and make the game a challenge for them and it will get buffed and i wont mind that when it happens because it requires aim to use and you dont have any so you wont be able to use it I saw one in PC yday i lol'd with happyness I agree with you on respecting folks who dont use proto cruches. I lost a 2 tanks yesterday to a well coordinated av squad they got me with the adv swarms onec and with tgeir std plasma cannon tge 2nd time. The first assault in volved the two of them blocking my retreat rout with lavs and tgen opening fire on me from behind and tge second time they got me tge plasma cannon was waiting onbme near the red line when the swarmer forced me to rep and retreat . Was a good battle and I ebded going 32/2 had to congrafldulat those two for popping me 2ce in one game.
Sinboto Simmons SVER True Blood Public Disorder. 1009	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:33:00 - [29] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Lurchasaurus wrote: Anarchide wrote: skilled Swarmers no Coming from a crutch AV nader lol You broke my brain just now
ZDub 303 TeamPlayers EoN. 1717	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:40:00 - [30] - Quote sixteensixty4 wrote: Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped (granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though) Sounds good in theory but unless every module is active you can't even run from swarms, you will die before you can escape. Also swarms can outrun vehicles and will do full damage at any range. Seriously... if its an armor tank its dead with swarms... you can't outrun almost 3000 points of damage per shot.

Scheneighnay McBob Bojo's School of the Trades 3076	Posted - 2013.08.21 14:57:00 - [31] - Quote Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: Takahiro Kashuken wrote: Scheneighnay McBob wrote: What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners Plasma cannons have an extremely slow projectile speed (HAVs have outrun them before), fire on an arc, and are very weak in the advanced/prototype tiers, despite high fitting costs. Not to mention a common misfire glitch where the projectile doesn't deal damage. If you think we should use those instead, you're an idiot. It would make a difference from crutch swarms I defo respect those who choose a difficult weapon to wield and make the game a challenge for them and it will get buffed and i wont mind that when it happens because it requires aim to use and you dont have any so you wont be able to use it I saw one in PC yday i lol'd with happyness A plasma cannon is never going to destroy an HAV. Even at proto, standard packed AV grenades are better.
sixteensixty4 CAUSE 4 C0NCERN 62	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:03:00 - [32] - Quote ZDub 303 wrote: sixteensixty4 wrote: Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped (granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though) Sounds good in theory but unless every module is active you can't even run from swarms, you will die before you can escape. Also swarms can outrun vehicles and will do full damage at any range. Seriously... if its an armor tank its dead with swarms... you can't outrun almost 3000 points of damage per shot. I've got a maxed out gunlogi, and proto swarms... The thing i notice with most tankers when i play av, is they just wont go and take cover, they even use there modules, and still think they can sit in the open during the cooldown.... I play my tank carefully, once av starts to hit me, i'll either attempt shoot whos responseable if i can find where they are within getting hit twice, or i'll bite the bullet and just feck off to the other side of map for a couple of kills and let my modules reset, i escape swarms every day, and good tankers will evade mine, it is possible if you play carefull I rarely go driveing accross the big open areas we have, and if i do, its usually when theres another tank out, as it takes the heat off a little. or i take a route where i know i got some cover, or sometimes you get them easy games and av seems non existant as a av and tanker, its blatently obvoius that sitting still for too long anywhere is a BIG mistake when theres av out hunting you do i think tanks need a little buff, yeah, but are all these tears needed, no, again, i havnt lost a tank in over 30 called down, i play solo, and have been in some pretty rough situations where av is concerned, sometimes i spend more time running away than getting kills lol which blows, also, i sent this toon 10 mil from my main to buy tanks with, i now got just over 30, so im making profit also
Kiriasis Draca Penguin's March 84	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:33:00 - [33] - Quote So...in a side random bit of 'where did that come from' Every time I see something that says, the swarms, I expect to see a horde of Zerg run in and slaughter everyone they can. When it's Proto commentary, I'm looking to hear about the Protoss owning our maps and giving us what for.... Yeah...... Anyway, Guys who run swarm launchers are notoriously twitchy, especially if they run some hardcore launchers. My poor tanker lost a few tanks in very short order due to those twitchy folk
Nemo Bluntz TeamPlayers EoN. 401	Posted - 2013.08.21 15:36:00 - [34] - Quote Swarms aren't OP. Reckless/clueless tankers are UP.

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