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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
934
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Posted - 2013.08.20 12:14:00 -
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This is my crutch. There are many others like it, but this one is mine.
My crutch is my best friend. It is my life. I must not master it as I must master my life.
Without me, my crutch is fine. Without my crutch, I am useless. I must fire my crutch true. I must not shoot straighter than my enemy, who is trying to kill me. I must shoot him before he shoots me. I will... lock on through cover first
My crutch and I know that what counts in this war is not the rounds we spam, the noise of our burst, nor the invisible missiles we fire. We know that it is the hits that count. We will hit... around cover and obstacles
Before God I swear this creed: my crutch and myself are defenders of easy mode, we are not the masters of our enemy, we are the saviors of easy mode. So be it, until there is no skill, Amen. |
Repe Susi
Rautaleijona
Top Men.
582
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Posted - 2013.08.20 12:15:00 -
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Hasn't this gone too far already? You're one I see in every AV thread, and there's many of them. What's the point starting another one?
I smell butthurt teenager. |
Nitrobeacon
Freek Coalition
51
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Posted - 2013.08.20 12:31:00 -
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Repe Susi wrote:Hasn't this gone too far already? You're one I see in every AV thread, and there's many of them. What's the point starting another one?
I smell butthurt teenager.
That's very rude of you assuming such things about someone's identity.
Anyway I understand how the swarms can be a little over the top, especially since you can't counter attack them when they are behind cover safely launching salvos, getting close to them to get a better shot is just asking for lai dais. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
417
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Posted - 2013.08.20 12:34:00 -
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He got killed too many times by skilled Swarmers, that's what! |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
794
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Posted - 2013.08.20 12:39:00 -
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*think he calling you out man!*
really? thought he just venting.
*NA dude! He wants you to jump into the EON WAR. And go AGAINST THEM*
Don't care enough about pc. But their will be quality tanks and ds there huh?
*yeah dude! By the boat load! think of the destruction!*
Been meaning to dust off (ha! I said dust) my proto gear, since I don't take it out in pubs. 13mil+ worth of it.
*TEKKA GODS END SUIT. (PROTO) AND TEKKA GODS END AV SUIT. (PROTO) We can play around with them now!*
Hm... |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1945
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Posted - 2013.08.20 12:43:00 -
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There aren't exactly a lot AV options. You have swarm launchers, forge guns, AV nades, proxy mines, and plasma cannons.
Plasma cannon is the only one people don't cry nerf for, probably because it came pre-nerfed. AV nades (for all their "power") come in very limited quantities with limited range. Proxy mines are laughable, they don't seem to trigger properly post-uprising, and they often self-destruct when being deployed. Forge guns require a heavy suit.
That leaves Swarm Launchers for 90% of players. I guess players could suicide when they see a vehicle, and wait in the MCC till the next match. That doesn't seem like a great play strategy though. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
417
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Posted - 2013.08.20 12:53:00 -
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An AV Swarm without cover is a dead AV Swarm.
Sorry for not standing still right in your sight. |
sixteensixty4
CAUSE 4 C0NCERN
55
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Posted - 2013.08.20 13:26:00 -
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Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped
(granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though)
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Knight Soiaire
Better Hide R Die
1892
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Posted - 2013.08.20 13:28:00 -
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sixteensixty4 wrote:Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped
(granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though)
Yeah.
Who the **** gave you the idea that you're supposed to be able to tank damage in a tank?
Huh?
Scrubs these days! |
sixteensixty4
CAUSE 4 C0NCERN
55
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Posted - 2013.08.20 13:32:00 -
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Knight Soiaire wrote:sixteensixty4 wrote:Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped
(granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though)
Yeah. Who the **** gave you the idea that you're supposed to be able to tank damage in a tank? Huh? Scrubs these days!
Yeah i get what your saying, but if you cant, why ******* try....
My tank lasted longer than yours and two others yesterday , IE: the whole match  i havnt lost one in over 30 called down..... i dont get all the tears |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
936
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Posted - 2013.08.20 14:24:00 -
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sixteensixty4 wrote:Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped
(granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though)
So a tank cannot tank any incoming damage
Why the **** are vehicles in the game then? |
Surt gods end
Demon Ronin
796
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Posted - 2013.08.20 14:32:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:sixteensixty4 wrote:Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped
(granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though)
So a tank cannot tank any incoming damage Why the **** are vehicles in the game then?
same reason other FPS games have em. But if you notice they get blown up a lot too. But like those other games would it bother you taka if you went 42-10? if it meant they lowered greatly the isk you need to restock em?
That's the major argument right? unlike most fps games, Tanks are bloody expensive. where other FPS games, they are free. but HAVs in those games are not doing 50-0.
I have always been with those that say to ccp "LOWER THE DAMN ISK FOR HAVS AND DS ALREADY!" |
sixteensixty4
CAUSE 4 C0NCERN
55
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Posted - 2013.08.20 14:34:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:sixteensixty4 wrote:Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped
(granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though)
So a tank cannot tank any incoming damage Why the **** are vehicles in the game then?
Last time im posting in a tank thread, you guys are beyond boring, dont you get tired repeating yourself over and over? why make a new ******* thread?
Adapt untill 1.5, like a ton of us already have and quit ya crying, scrub
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
937
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Posted - 2013.08.20 14:37:00 -
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sixteensixty4 wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:sixteensixty4 wrote:Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped
(granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though)
So a tank cannot tank any incoming damage Why the **** are vehicles in the game then? Last time im posting in a tank thread, you guys are beyond boring, dont you get tired repeating yourself over and over? why make a new ******* thread? Adapt untill 1.5, like a ton of us already have and quit ya crying, scrub
lol bad players tells me to adapt
Its all ive done since the last 5 builds and 5 sets of nerfs while AV doesnt have to adapt or use teamwork lol |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
418
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Posted - 2013.08.20 15:35:00 -
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About those invisible projectiles... Ever wonder some of those could be coming from your 6? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
940
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Posted - 2013.08.20 16:22:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:About those invisible projectiles... Ever wonder some of those could be coming from your 6?
Invisible projecctiles hitting my 6
What difference does that make if they are still invisible? |
sixteensixty4
CAUSE 4 C0NCERN
56
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Posted - 2013.08.20 16:23:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:About those invisible projectiles... Ever wonder some of those could be coming from your 6?
There not, they just dont render when they are fired from a certain distance
On the line harvest map they dont render if they fired from on top of them towers, you can call a tank in your spawn and see the invisable av for yourself
It happens on other maps, but that seems to be the most common one
on my other account i have proto swarms, you can tell when they are invisible to the tank, as he will blatently look confused and sometimes drive straight at where there coming from as opposed to just nipping around the corner he was right next to  |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3057
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Posted - 2013.08.20 16:36:00 -
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What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
942
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Posted - 2013.08.20 17:02:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons?
No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
418
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Posted - 2013.08.20 17:09:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners
I never encountered those bugs. The one I see, though, is my Swarm Launchers firing duds after I've released the trigger (It does a launch animation, but those rockets does nothing). |
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Nemo Bluntz
TeamPlayers
EoN.
386
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Posted - 2013.08.20 17:12:00 -
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Swarms aren't even that good.
I've just got to advanced ones and they're fun to use. But anyone who thinks that they are "too good" against tanks is off their damn rocker. |
R'adeh Hunt
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
337
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Posted - 2013.08.20 18:06:00 -
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Swarms are perfectly fine as they are. The only thing that needs changing is the removal of "invisible" swarms.
Vehicle users really need to stop pretending they are somehow entitled to stomp through games unopposed. |
Scheneighnay McBob
Bojo's School of the Trades
3060
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Posted - 2013.08.20 20:01:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners
Plasma cannons have an extremely slow projectile speed (HAVs have outrun them before), fire on an arc, and are very weak in the advanced/prototype tiers, despite high fitting costs. Not to mention a common misfire glitch where the projectile doesn't deal damage.
If you think we should use those instead, you're an idiot. |
Charlotte O'Dell
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
992
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Posted - 2013.08.20 20:10:00 -
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Don't give up the fight, Takahiro! I'm busy nerfing ARs so you and Exmaple need to pick up my slack. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
955
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Posted - 2013.08.21 10:50:00 -
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Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners Plasma cannons have an extremely slow projectile speed (HAVs have outrun them before), fire on an arc, and are very weak in the advanced/prototype tiers, despite high fitting costs. Not to mention a common misfire glitch where the projectile doesn't deal damage. If you think we should use those instead, you're an idiot.
It would make a difference from crutch swarms
I defo respect those who choose a difficult weapon to wield and make the game a challenge for them and it will get buffed and i wont mind that when it happens because it requires aim to use and you dont have any so you wont be able to use it
I saw one in PC yday i lol'd with happyness |
Lurchasaurus
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
899
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Posted - 2013.08.21 11:07:00 -
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Anarchide wrote:skilled Swarmers
no |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
955
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Posted - 2013.08.21 12:06:00 -
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Lurchasaurus wrote:Anarchide wrote:skilled Swarmers no
Coming from a crutch AV nader
lol |
pegasis prime
BIG BAD W0LVES
Eternal Syndicate
654
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Posted - 2013.08.21 12:14:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Scheneighnay McBob wrote:What do you expect us to use? Plasma cannons? No because that requires aim where the projectile isnt invisible and doesnt bend around corners Plasma cannons have an extremely slow projectile speed (HAVs have outrun them before), fire on an arc, and are very weak in the advanced/prototype tiers, despite high fitting costs. Not to mention a common misfire glitch where the projectile doesn't deal damage. If you think we should use those instead, you're an idiot. It would make a difference from crutch swarms I defo respect those who choose a difficult weapon to wield and make the game a challenge for them and it will get buffed and i wont mind that when it happens because it requires aim to use and you dont have any so you wont be able to use it I saw one in PC yday i lol'd with happyness
I agree with you on respecting folks who dont use proto cruches. I lost a 2 tanks yesterday to a well coordinated av squad they got me with the adv swarms onec and with tgeir std plasma cannon tge 2nd time. The first assault in volved the two of them blocking my retreat rout with lavs and tgen opening fire on me from behind and tge second time they got me tge plasma cannon was waiting onbme near the red line when the swarmer forced me to rep and retreat . Was a good battle and I ebded going 32/2 had to congrafldulat those two for popping me 2ce in one game. |
Sinboto Simmons
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1009
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Posted - 2013.08.21 14:33:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Lurchasaurus wrote:Anarchide wrote:skilled Swarmers no Coming from a crutch AV nader lol
You broke my brain just now |
ZDub 303
TeamPlayers
EoN.
1717
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Posted - 2013.08.21 14:40:00 -
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sixteensixty4 wrote:Heres a idea, when the 1st swarm hits you, instead of trying to tank the oncoming onslaught, why dont you just gtfo and do a lap or something, other than just sitting there getting raped
(granted doesnt work for invisible swarms, recall does though)
Sounds good in theory but unless every module is active you can't even run from swarms, you will die before you can escape. Also swarms can outrun vehicles and will do full damage at any range.
Seriously... if its an armor tank its dead with swarms... you can't outrun almost 3000 points of damage per shot. |
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