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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.08.19 12:59:00 -
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ChribbaX wrote:You that bad that you need others to rep you constantly?
Bad player complains about vehicle users adapting when its stuipdly easy to kill vehicles
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Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:04:00 -
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Jason ive done that
It does work in very situational roles, like for example if you got a chokepoint it works really well
Problem is tho is the maddy, its the super weak link depending how you fit it up
I got about 4-7 spider fits, some are good but require to be very aware for the entire game, ive had half the enemy team go AV to kill the target tank but if its adv or proto then it can just be too much depending how much of it ther is
It does work and ive tried it for a while, havnt lost many tanks as the target tank but as the spider you are generally weaker
If we did have a Logi tank, a proper yellow beast for this spider tanking then it would be great but yet again infantry would complain and would want it nerfed |
Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:21:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Jason ive done that
It does work in very situational roles, like for example if you got a chokepoint it works really well
Problem is tho is the maddy, its the super weak link depending how you fit it up
I got about 4-7 spider fits, some are good but require to be very aware for the entire game, ive had half the enemy team go AV to kill the target tank but if its adv or proto then it can just be too much depending how much of it ther is
It does work and ive tried it for a while, havnt lost many tanks as the target tank but as the spider you are generally weaker
If we did have a Logi tank, a proper yellow beast for this spider tanking then it would be great but yet again infantry would complain and would want it nerfed I believe the key to spider tanking is being able to hold your own solo but being able to work together, take the Hybrid for example, it's fitted with a Neutron Scattered, Heavy Reps and a Heavy Transporter to rep others, two of these can work by themselves for a little bit but against AV must join together as one. When coming up against AV, one takes the lead, then falls back so that the other Tank takes his place, I saw this with three shield tanks once, except they simply switch who was repping on the lead tank (Triangle Formation), one person would put heavy reps on the tank, then when they run out the next reps would go on, all the while the Gunnlogi was slaying, the other two would hide behind a wall xD ]
Cant do it with shield tanks tbh, armor tanks would just rip em up and drive through them anyways, plus shield is way too tight with PG
I find if the target tank is gunlogi then yes generally it worls well due to swarm resistance and AV nades, FG another story but they can hold up with reps
Generally i feel the target tank needs its own rep for the downtime between reps, espc if you use the heavy, heavy armor reps have a 1min cooldown which can be squeeky bum time
A triangle is around perfect but the more the merrier and **** em
One game of domination we had 5 tanks at one point, all armor and generally 4/5 had light shield reps, we repped each other consistantly and called out for reps and the shields worked well because they take out the sting of the swarms really well while we each had fairly decent tanks so we could survive without the reps when needed - that was against basic AV and we got lucky with that, would we survive against adv? or proto? maybe not we would have lost at least 1 tank
If we did ever get a log tank then great i would love it, as it is we have makeshift logi tanks which are okay but generally the more the merrier because the AV have so many to shoot at and also half the team has to go AV but the tanks can switch around
If i could run 6 spider tanks in a match i would always do it |
Takahiro Kashuken
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Posted - 2013.08.22 13:18:00 -
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That fit while it is a spider tank relys on another spider tank with shield mods
Essentailly in 2 tanks ther is no target tank, a 3rd armor shield tank is needed for the triangle i think
While the shield is good if armor is breached and you have no rep you will be generally toast to a point plus with the 120 plate you do lose 800-1500 or armor but you have gained 2k of shield which can and does help with most forms of AV
I may try a similar fit if i get time due to the 'war' but maybe have a omni tanked madrugar as the target tank with 2 spider tanks backing it up keeping that shield as high as possible to reduce the damage
Plus with it being a armor tank auto ppl will swarm it and even then if shield is gone and breached depending on your fit you have enough armor to tank some more damage while you run or wait for reps and tech it maybe stronger than then gunlogi since you have both types of tank and it doesnt matter what gets hit
On paper not too bad, i still say if you can get 3 tanks doing around the same thing then it should work really well |
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Posted - 2013.08.23 12:22:00 -
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Who said 3 gunlogi with missiles would kill the 3 reppers?
That wont happen because missiles have to break the shields, i have spider fits wich have 2 active resists (25%) and a heavy repper with 6k armor which can either use heavy or light shield reppers for other tanks
If everyone has a shield rep we can take the sting out of the missiles and even if they do go through to armor we have enough to resist the damage and can rep back up to full while shields stay up
A gunlogi only has its shield to rely on, you break that and its dead
I made a omni tank yday to test this out and tbh it aint that bad but does rely on a heavy shield rep at least 1, 2 light could do it but im not sure if its enough espc against adv AV which everyone has these days
It has nearly 4k shields, 5 k armor and 50% resist to armor and just 10% for shields but against swarms and av nades its effectively a reducution of another 20%, i could take of the smaller shield to have 3k and put on maybe a scanner or even a passive shield mod which gives another 15%
Problem is it needs the spider tank, once the shield is gone thats it you have to run
I do prefer 3 tanks in a group, anymore can be overkill but its more of more tanks more security and more targets and if the tanks keep swapping around then it works a treat because you always have another tank to go up front and take some damage while others rep or provide support
Yday in Domo we had 6 tanks at one point, i had my x2 heavy shield rep maddy with me and was spider tanking Spkr Gunlogi but also i was keeping up a clone bay because i was using it as cover but i was also able to cover the other 4 tanks within a decent range and lol the other 4 tanks were all militia
It can work and does work but adv/proto AV just makes it a whole lot tougher and it rare you get a game where ther isnt any |
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