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Kekklian Noobatronic wrote:

From an AVer perspective:

I *love* this idea. I think it's a very deadly way for tanks to roll, and certainly won't be an easy one if multiple tanks are fitting/using reppers on each other. Great post.

My only real concern is that this will drastically beef up the tanks. Not from the HP perspective(that's a given), but more from a counter perspective. Right now, infantry does not have EWAR, which is one of the primary counters in EVE to spider tanking (Cap warfare, ECM). Therefore, an infrantry player has no way of canceling out the repair cycles once they've gone live. This means that a few tanks can sit there just focusing reps on the person getting damaged, negating *multiple* proto AV players (at least on paper). It's a very deadly tactic, and while I applaud it's conception, I just hope it does not 'go big' until CCP has introduced some EWAR modules to the infantry. The ability to cancel locks, or some other form of on-tank capacitor system (I really hope they do this - infinite capacitor on a tank seems silly) would be a great way to prevent this from getting over-used. A capacitor system especially would be very interesting to see, and I think would be a great start towards not only balancing great tactics like this (note I said BALANCING, not NERFING). Personally, the idea of a bricked out hybrid tank roaming around with 2 all out assault tanks, pushing reps on them is a crazy cool idea (Providing the functionality of a true "heavy" LLAV).

Carry on 'ol chap!


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Lorhak Gannarsein DUST University Ivy League 169	Posted - 2013.08.19 13:00:00 - [1] - Quote Yeah, it's amazing. I've got a few buddies who are just getting into tanking as a hobby, so I fit out a Maddy with armour and shield reps; with both on, with his AUR basic turret and barely any buffer, beat a proto blaster tank no problems. Probably helped that I was spamming missiles into its side, but eh. Not even a scratch.
Lorhak Gannarsein DUST University Ivy League 193	Posted - 2013.08.22 11:23:00 - [2] - Quote Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: From an AVer perspective: I love this idea. I think it's a very deadly way for tanks to roll, and certainly won't be an easy one if multiple tanks are fitting/using reppers on each other. Great post. My only real concern is that this will drastically beef up the tanks. Not from the HP perspective(that's a given), but more from a counter perspective. Right now, infantry does not have EWAR, which is one of the primary counters in EVE to spider tanking (Cap warfare, ECM). Therefore, an infrantry player has no way of canceling out the repair cycles once they've gone live. This means that a few tanks can sit there just focusing reps on the person getting damaged, negating multiple proto AV players (at least on paper). It's a very deadly tactic, and while I applaud it's conception, I just hope it does not 'go big' until CCP has introduced some EWAR modules to the infantry. The ability to cancel locks, or some other form of on-tank capacitor system (I really hope they do this - infinite capacitor on a tank seems silly) would be a great way to prevent this from getting over-used. A capacitor system especially would be very interesting to see, and I think would be a great start towards not only balancing great tactics like this (note I said BALANCING, not NERFING). Personally, the idea of a bricked out hybrid tank roaming around with 2 all out assault tanks, pushing reps on them is a crazy cool idea (Providing the functionality of a true "heavy" LLAV). Carry on 'ol chap! They're still vulnerable to alpha damage, and the gap between reps can prove fatal. It does take more AV to take them down (you're probably not going to solo them, for example) but it's no different, really to killing two protobears instead of one. Combined arms tends to be a good response; tankers frequently overextend to try to fight one of their own. Especially when they think they can mash it up easily.
Lorhak Gannarsein DUST University Ivy League 200	Posted - 2013.08.23 07:51:00 - [3] - Quote Spkr4theDead wrote: Kekklian Noobatronic wrote: My only real concern is that this will drastically beef up the tanks. Of course it's a concern, because that means the target tank can't be solo'd by ADV AV grenades. It's a high-level tactic; you're not likely to see this in pubs. I know I could never run something like this, cos my playtimes being what they are, I don't see many other tankers, and certainly none with heavy investment into both armour and shield tanks.