DUST Search - Any tips for how to destroy some vehicles?

RedRebelCork wrote:

Ok. Swarms works but not for everything and running solo you might have to settle with chasing off a well-fitted HAV rather than destroying him (unless he's stupid, most aren't though).

From experience the following works well:

1. Fit to kill. You want to have a fitting with at the minimum a CBR-7 advanced swarm launcher, a decent nanohive (K-2 works well) and at least TWO, yes two, complex damage mods (3 is ideal, 4 is in the realms of diminished returns). AV nades are a bonus, but you should aim to stay at range.

2. Know the map. Some maps are easy for HAVs/LLAVs to stay alive on. Counter-intuitively, urban environments suit vehicles in this game, they it make it hard to get a lock with the swarm or get multiple shots with a forge. Open maps are better for you. Use AV nades in urban maps when they present themselves, don't go running around with a swarm launcher in a complex with lots of enemy infantry, bring a rifle and AV nades.

3. High ground. Find it and take it! Use a gorgon dropship to get to the high ground ASAP. Set up your nanohive at your feet with a vantage point and rain down hell on them.

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Mejt0 D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass 0	Posted - 2013.08.19 09:51:00 - [1] - Quote Hello. As titlle says any tips how to destroy freak fast assault dropships and gunlogi/madrugar? Rly i cant see any way to destroy these things. Teamwork doesnt work bec i play mostly solo and ppl just doesnt care about it..:/. I tried with adv swarm at both and failed. May forge gun for ship and promixy for tanks work? This is really big problem , hope you guys will help :). (at the same time i must ask smth more. Isnt logi better than assault in both roles? Lets talk about caldari. Diff is that logi has little lower base hp,move and assault have better bonus. But log have more eq and 5high 3low. It gives as much ehp as assault but additionaly have 3 eqiupment slots.)
RedRebelCork Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 342	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:15:00 - [2] - Quote Ok. Swarms works but not for everything and running solo you might have to settle with chasing off a well-fitted HAV rather than destroying him (unless he's stupid, most aren't though). From experience the following works well: 1. Fit to kill. You want to have a fitting with at the minimum a CBR-7 advanced swarm launcher, a decent nanohive (K-2 works well) and at least TWO, yes two, complex damage mods (3 is ideal, 4 is in the realms of diminished returns). AV nades are a bonus, but you should aim to stay at range. 2. Know the map. Some maps are easy for HAVs/LLAVs to stay alive on. Counter-intuitively, urban environments suit vehicles in this game, they it make it hard to get a lock with the swarm or get multiple shots with a forge. Open maps are better for you. Use AV nades in urban maps when they present themselves, don't go running around with a swarm launcher in a complex with lots of enemy infantry, bring a rifle and AV nades. 3. High ground. Find it and take it! Use a gorgon dropship to get to the high ground ASAP. Set up your nanohive at your feet with a vantage point and rain down hell on them.
Takahiro Kashuken Red Star. EoN. 894	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:25:00 - [3] - Quote lolcrutchswarms ??? Profit
DeadlyAztec11 Max-Pain-inc Dark Taboo 1920	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:50:00 - [4] - Quote I find that many assault ships tend to Trevor attack you when you don't look objector can hurt them. This means getting to a rooftop and not getting out your launcher till they get real close. Same idea goes for Tanks. Always try to flank around and not get out your swarm launcher until you are ready to fire. Also, use a fast suit with a lot of stamina, I recommend a Minmatar medium with a cardiac regulator (green module). Caldari Tanks, you will have your best luck with throwing some AV grenades at them (before) shooting off your swarms. This is because you want their shields gone as fast as possible, you can use Flux grenades also, but they won't do as much damage as AV to shields(strange but true), flux gives you the added benefit of being able to have a grenade effective against vehicles and infantry (Flux & SMG). Always flank vehicles and don't get in front of them unless there is no other option. Now in terms of Logi vs. Assault. Logi is better ONLY if you plan to have the rest of theorem protect you from infantry, the only Logi that I would recommend for this is the Amarr Logi, as it is the only one with a sidearm. Nano hive is a must have. Remote explosives and proximity mines are flinch, but not necessary. I would choose remote explosives because that way, you can attack LAV's and HAV'S, without worrying about LAV's running faster than they can explode or HAV's hearing the chime that tells them that there are mines there. Any more questions, just ask.
daishi mk03 Brutor Vanguard Minmatar Republic 68	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:53:00 - [5] - Quote From a tankers point of view, two guys sneaking up with AV grenades (->instagib), Swarms from really high grounds +invisible (->surpresses you totally) and 3 people flanking behind you with swarms / FG (->instagib) are the biggest problem.
Leovarian L Lavitz Better Academy. 536	Posted - 2013.08.19 10:59:00 - [6] - Quote Depends on Map and outpost. The Towers in Line-harvest map can be used to suppress a tank solo. The Towers in biomass outpost can be used to gain the upper position on tanks entering/leaving the area and either keep them confined or away. Once you have yourself a second av guy you can go tank hunting with a lav. Get in the lav with your buddy, road rage all the way up to next to the tank, hop out and insta-gib him with grenades. Still alive? Running away from you? Swarms buddy.
Delta 749 Kestrel Reconnaissance 1770	Posted - 2013.08.19 11:04:00 - [7] - Quote Drop ships youll only really be able to scare off unless the pilot happens to be low and near something you can bounce him into With a swarm launcher only fighting tanks positioning is key, if they are out in the open you absolutely must have the high ground or you wont hit anything since the swarms will detonate on the terrain half the time In an urban setting youll have to get in the danger zone to harm him and if he has infantry support its going to make it much more difficult, fit stamina boosters and haul ass around him firing from one spot and moving to another so he wont tag you and be prepared for him to start hauling ass away so know the escape routes and how to reach them quickly and safely to keep on firing at him Oh and a little tip for the urban areas, dropping a LAV into the middle of an escape route can buy you that second of distraction you might need to be safe enough to grab a target lock or slow him down just enough that you can get one more shot in
Happy Violentime OMFGZOMBIESRUN 119	Posted - 2013.08.19 11:28:00 - [8] - Quote All vehicles have a weak spot where their shield/armour takes more damage - shoot them there!!
Keri Starlight Psygod9 116	Posted - 2013.08.19 11:36:00 - [9] - Quote 1. Play Skirmish 2. Spawn Logi 3. Find a Tower 4. Go up there and drop a nanohive and an uplink 5. Pick a Forge Gun (supply depots) 6. Feel free to kill my Gunnlogi in 4 shots from 400m away without even showing up at me because of the crappy render. I won't have the time to take cover, believe me. Seriously, I understand you're new, but blowing up derpships and HAV it's the most easy thing in this game (except LLAV murder taxi'ing). Have fun.
broonfondle majikthies P.O.N.A.G.S. D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 171	Posted - 2013.08.19 11:41:00 - [10] - Quote Sadly most dropships fall out of the sky on their own due to 'pilot error' may as well leave them alone, one less merc on the ground I only fly when it looks like were winning (ok sometimes when know were screwed too). Just to get the flight hours in

Mejt0 D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass 0	Posted - 2013.08.19 17:43:00 - [11] - Quote Thanks guys. Im not as new, but not begginier too. I have 2 chars , 1 adv caldari assault and 1 adv minmatar logi. Ill go for some AV abillites for my logi and some for assault.Some said its easy. Its not if you cant play with oriented team and only you think to go for some AV. And alone its hard to do it, espc if they hide and rep to full in 3sec :). Anyway thanks, if you have any other tips i'd like to hear it. (yea espc logi lavs are soo deadly. They are strong and fast. Always can see them on whole enemy sky, remote should help then :))
CuuCH Crusher Commando Perkone Caldari State 206	Posted - 2013.08.19 17:45:00 - [12] - Quote Forge gun to the anus of the tank should get the job done.
Shokhann Echo Kang Lo Directorate Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2013.08.19 17:56:00 - [13] - Quote AV grenades, they are the most powerful av weapon, with no negative aspects.
Nguruthos IX Hellstorm Inc League of Infamy 1099	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:01:00 - [14] - Quote Want to destroy a million ISK dropship with all the gunners and passengers you can dream of instantly? Wait till he comes down from being absolutely worthless at the flight cieling to actually do something useful like pickup/dropoff/support/etc and just call in a LAV under or around the area he is or may be flying soon. BOOM< RDV will spawn and decloak INSIDE of the dropship. You can laugh your way straight to ** and the game devs can smile smuggle at their beautifully BS mechanics at work. Its easy, virtually free and almost fail safe! PS, if you have that bloodraider BPO LAV it still IS free. ISNT DUST FUN, KIDS!??!!???**
Surt gods end Demon Ronin 792	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:12:00 - [15] - Quote I build my Tekka AV suit out of boredom of killing them so easily. I want to see If I could survive in one. well stealth and Swarms go hand in hand. I can waltz my way to the enemy red line, and none will know unless one is using a scanner, but really? lol I'll kill the sniper if I don't know him from forums. (yeah I just don't care anymore. I do what I please) and then, well it's HAV and DS hunting time. DS- Get in close, doesn't have to be to close but you want to minimise swarm travel time. Not after you shoot that first volley, lock on immediatly! And fire second volley. If he's hasn't lost control cause it's in flames, and fire a third. but most times you won't need too. Two volleys from proto swarms does the job. HAV- first You guys will never be safe. Your a moving target. get use to it. I only wanted to camp my close objective, BUT NO, you HAV had to always come and butt in! So this is payback! ....imagine?! lol nah, I was just bored. Anyway, you want to flank them, and get close. minimize that travel time. Get two volleys in, and he has to make a choice, risk his tank or flee. chase him at your own discretion. i always do, cause he doesn't know where I'm coming from. My gripe with HAV is that damn ultra fast recall of theirs!
Spkr4theDead Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 397	Posted - 2013.08.19 18:30:00 - [16] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Hello. As titlle says any tips how to destroy freak fast assault dropships and gunlogi/madrugar? Rly i cant see any way to destroy these things. Teamwork doesnt work bec i play mostly solo and ppl just doesnt care about it..:/. I tried with adv swarm at both and failed. May forge gun for ship and promixy for tanks work? This is really big problem , hope you guys will help :). (at the same time i must ask smth more. Isnt logi better than assault in both roles? Lets talk about caldari. Diff is that logi has little lower base hp,move and assault have better bonus. But log have more eq and 5high 3low. It gives as much ehp as assault but additionaly have 3 eqiupment slots.) Yeah, it's called lolAV. ADV AV is enough to make a veteran tanker soil his pants.
Mejt0 D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass 0	Posted - 2013.08.20 01:04:00 - [17] - Quote Okay. Seems that ill never beat them (or only now) . Last problem is smth other that this all and it cannot be helped. Yes yes i mean teammates. Most of my game 70% i must play with dumb team that everyone one mlt and noone knows what is uplink... achh :/..there should be categories like begginer and public. (And most time when my mates are bad enemys are full Adv and Pro which knows what to do :). Sry if theres any mistakes in words im not very good at English)
True Adamance PIE Inc. Praetoria Imperialis Excubitoris 1372	Posted - 2013.08.20 01:05:00 - [18] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Hello. As titlle says any tips how to destroy freak fast assault dropships and gunlogi/madrugar? Rly i cant see any way to destroy these things. Teamwork doesnt work bec i play mostly solo and ppl just doesnt care about it..:/. I tried with adv swarm at both and failed. May forge gun for ship and promixy for tanks work? This is really big problem , hope you guys will help :). (at the same time i must ask smth more. Isnt logi better than assault in both roles? Lets talk about caldari. Diff is that logi has little lower base hp,move and assault have better bonus. But log have more eq and 5high 3low. It gives as much ehp as assault but additionaly have 3 eqiupment slots.) You are having trouble. AVers already have it soooooooo easy.
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 223	Posted - 2013.08.20 01:10:00 - [19] - Quote RedRebelCork wrote: Ok. Swarms works but not for everything and running solo you might have to settle with chasing off a well-fitted HAV rather than destroying him (unless he's stupid, most aren't though). From experience the following works well: 1. Fit to kill. You want to have a fitting with at the minimum a CBR-7 advanced swarm launcher, a decent nanohive (K-2 works well) and at least TWO, yes two, complex damage mods (3 is ideal, 4 is in the realms of diminished returns). AV nades are a bonus, but you should aim to stay at range. 2. Know the map. Some maps are easy for HAVs/LLAVs to stay alive on. Counter-intuitively, urban environments suit vehicles in this game, they it make it hard to get a lock with the swarm or get multiple shots with a forge. Open maps are better for you. Use AV nades in urban maps when they present themselves, don't go running around with a swarm launcher in a complex with lots of enemy infantry, bring a rifle and AV nades. 3. High ground. Find it and take it! Use a gorgon dropship to get to the high ground ASAP. Set up your nanohive at your feet with a vantage point and rain down hell on them. lol... nope.. what you need is an militia LAV... packed Av nades basic nano hive and militia swarms.... place LAV right behind tank towards redline.... attack it with AV nades and swarms=win
Anmol Singh The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 223	Posted - 2013.08.20 01:11:00 - [20] - Quote umm derp...

Medic 1879 Forsaken Immortals Top Men. 926	Posted - 2013.08.20 02:01:00 - [21] - Quote The best way I have found of downing a dropship is to give it a stern look and shout "No bad dropship" while waggling my finger at it.
xSaloLx GunFall Mobilization Covert Intervention 132	Posted - 2013.08.20 03:03:00 - [22] - Quote For taking out assault dropships, I recommend standing about 45 degrees directly in front of it and shooting your side arm at it (except if it's a flaylock, don't bother, it does nothing).
grunt party Carbon 7 CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.08.20 03:08:00 - [23] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Hello. As titlle says any tips how to destroy freak fast assault dropships and gunlogi/madrugar? Rly i cant see any way to destroy these things. Teamwork doesnt work bec i play mostly solo and ppl just doesnt care about it..:/. I tried with adv swarm at both and failed. May forge gun for ship and promixy for tanks work? This is really big problem , hope you guys will help :). (at the same time i must ask smth more. Isnt logi better than assault in both roles? Lets talk about caldari. Diff is that logi has little lower base hp,move and assault have better bonus. But log have more eq and 5high 3low. It gives as much ehp as assault but additionaly have 3 eqiupment slots.) you cant do real team work solo COZ UR SOLO and heres a tip use proto AV coz theres only STD vehicles
grunt party Carbon 7 CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.08.20 03:12:00 - [24] - Quote daishi mk03 wrote: From a tankers point of view, two guys sneaking up with AV grenades (->instagib), Swarms from really high grounds +invisible (->suppresses you totally) and 3 people flanking behind you with swarms / FG (->instagib) are the biggest problem. invisible swarms thanks to CCps brill idea about render range i have also had invisible FG rounds too
Lillica Deathdealer Mango and Friends 139	Posted - 2013.08.20 03:12:00 - [25] - Quote Flux and a massdriver easily kills shield tanks. Proto AV nades solo any tank in 2 seconds, no joke. I'm not sure if advanced can too, yet. A forge gun or good swarms shut down dropship operations. Even if they arent killed, you'll keep that pilot out of the game and off of your team.
grunt party Carbon 7 CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.08.20 03:15:00 - [26] - Quote Keri Starlight wrote: 1. Play Skirmish 2. Spawn Logi 3. Find a Tower 4. Go up there and drop a nanohive and an uplink 5. Pick a Forge Gun (supply depots) 6. Feel free to kill my Gunnlogi in 4 shots from 400m away without even showing up at me because of the crappy render. I won't have the time to take cover, believe me. Seriously, I understand you're new, but blowing up derpships and HAV it's the most easy thing in this game (except LLAV murder taxi'ing). Have fun. u have my tactic to a T lol And the logi lavs are fine they just need 10% resist reduction and to be proto level
grunt party Carbon 7 CRONOS. 13	Posted - 2013.08.20 03:19:00 - [27] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Okay. Seems that ill never beat them (or only now) . Last problem is smth other that this all and it cannot be helped. Yes yes i mean teammates. Most of my game 70% i must play with dumb team that everyone one mlt and noone knows what is uplink... achh :/..there should be categories like begginer and public. (And most time when my mates are bad enemys are full Adv and Pro which knows what to do :). Sry if theres any mistakes in words im not very good at English) beginner would be flodded with pros looking for lols or an easy game
Mejt0 D3LTA ACADEMY Inver Brass 0	Posted - 2013.08.20 03:24:00 - [28] - Quote Why you still talk that its easy? Im not telling about dumb drivers that just charge and shoot. My enemys are always good drivers in well done tanks (7k armor or shield), my adv swarm dont do so much bec they have hardeners and ressistances. Cant just go to it and av with nano next to me because hes driving near point and walls and there alway infiantry near it that kill all what tank cant. Even after, proto reeper do Hmm..it was 400hp per pulse? Yea smth like this, then stop call it easy. I just want to hit them egnouth so he will flee for reeper, bec know i will never dest him alone, just to give some time to my team. Id better then try with forge gun. New fit, milita heavy and adv gun, can it do its role to make tank flee? Or proto is must?
Niuvo The Phoenix Federation 370	Posted - 2013.08.20 03:45:00 - [29] - Quote proximities and lay them on the center of the road tightly.
noobsniper the 2nd The Corporate Raiders 40	Posted - 2013.08.20 05:54:00 - [30] - Quote Mejt0 wrote: Hello. As titlle says any tips how to destroy freak fast assault dropships and gunlogi/madrugar? Rly i cant see any way to destroy these things. Teamwork doesnt work bec i play mostly solo and ppl just doesnt care about it..:/. I tried with adv swarm at both and failed. May forge gun for ship and promixy for tanks work? This is really big problem , hope you guys will help :). (at the same time i must ask smth more. Isnt logi better than assault in both roles? Lets talk about caldari. Diff is that logi has little lower base hp,move and assault have better bonus. But log have more eq and 5high 3low. It gives as much ehp as assault but additionaly have 3 eqiupment slots.) i hate you ppl and your lolcrutch swarms bending around coroners and invisible op much



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