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THEAMAZING POTHEAD
Pure Innocence.
EoN.
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Posted - 2013.08.19 04:03:00 -
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1. invisible swarms need fix.
2. explosive to armor damage needs fix(with tanks, suits, everything it does glitched damage, estimated 135% instead of the 120% like its supposed to.)
3. all swarms should have gradual turns in their flight path, instead of doing a 90 degree turn when they are close to the target.
BOOM, fixed. All of these are bugs, and they make swarms more effective than they should be, the swarms dont need a nerf, the bugs just need fixing. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
15
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Posted - 2013.08.19 04:19:00 -
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FINALY, someone that underlines the GLITCHES involved with swarms instead of crying for a nerf. Even as a tanker I still hate unrational nerf threads more than swarms (and lai dai av nades). |
Kane Banned
Red and Silver Hand
Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2013.08.19 04:21:00 -
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It says 120% when I aim at armor with swarms. |
Flix Keptick
Red Star.
EoN.
15
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Posted - 2013.08.19 04:26:00 -
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Kane Banned wrote:It says 120% when I aim at armor with swarms.
In reality it does about 135% damage. Its glitched.
Also, its funny that the ingame description of swarms says the war heads are programed to dodge counters. I guess ccp should fix the invisible flares (or whatever) my tank is deploying because I cant see it right now . |
Valentine Crendre
ZionTCD
63
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Posted - 2013.08.19 06:07:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:1. invisible swarms need fix.
2. explosive to armor damage needs fix(with tanks, suits, everything it does glitched damage, estimated 135% instead of the 120% like its supposed to.)
3. all swarms should have gradual turns in their flight path, instead of doing a 90 degree turn when they are close to the target.
BOOM, fixed. All of these are bugs, and they make swarms more effective than they should be, the swarms dont need a nerf, the bugs just need fixing.
Well said.
Too add, though. I think they should release ADV/PRO vehciles to contend with the ADV/PRO SLs and AV grenades. I used to say they need a nerf too, but perhaps these fixes will solve the problem...
However, AV grenades do a ridiculous amount of DPS to armor for how easy they are to utilize... 
The damage explosive damage should do to armor should be more like %115-%120 tops, in my opinion. |
Rynoceros
Rise Of Old Dudes
509
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Posted - 2013.08.19 06:09:00 -
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Speed buff on the projectiles. |
Obodiah Garro
Tech Guard
General Tso's Alliance
232
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Posted - 2013.08.19 06:12:00 -
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So where is this 135% damage figure comming from?
Give them a buff against shield damage or a base damage buff and maybe making them less maneuverable doesnt seem so stupid, given how crap there range is. Hard enough to take out HAV on towers and hiding way behind the redline is already. 400m seems really great until the target moves and they burn most of their range through tracking.
A really useful fix would be fixing their bugging lock on mechanism. People crying about SL like you can fire it dumbfire into groups of people like a MD/FP.
smh
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hgghyujh
Expert Intervention
Caldari State
80
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Posted - 2013.08.19 09:00:00 -
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THEAMAZING POTHEAD wrote:1. invisible swarms need fix.
2. explosive to armor damage needs fix(with tanks, suits, everything it does glitched damage, estimated 135% instead of the 120% like its supposed to.)
3. all swarms should have gradual turns in their flight path, instead of doing a 90 degree turn when they are close to the target.
BOOM, fixed. All of these are bugs, and they make swarms more effective than they should be, the swarms dont need a nerf, the bugs just need fixing.
90deg turns were a fix to drop ships being unhitable by swarm, frankly I agree tho swarm should move fast and turn slow, so you have to dodge them not out run them, tho that might make the invisible swarms worse..........
but +1 |
RedRebelCork
Ahrendee Mercenaries
EoN.
342
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Posted - 2013.08.19 09:03:00 -
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Increase the projectile speed and I'll gladly sacrifice some damage. Taking out LLAVs is almost impossible, they can outrun the swarms easily and hide.
A direct fire option would also be nice as the locking system is patchy in a lot of scenarios. |
Sgt Pseudo
Nexus Marines
15
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Posted - 2013.08.19 10:24:00 -
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Obodiah Garro wrote:So where is this 135% damage figure comming from?
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A really useful fix would be fixing their bugging lock on mechanism. People crying about SL like you can fire it dumbfire into groups of people like a MD/FP.
smh
Don't know either, seems like they never tried to, you know, actually use one.
One proto Swarm Launcher can't kill an ADS or skilled tanker* alone, that's actually damn hard to do.
When a tank is driving in the open and/or stands still with no cover for half of the match he deserves to loose his vehicle.
*except militia tanks |
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Sgt Pseudo
Nexus Marines
15
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Posted - 2013.08.19 10:25:00 -
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Sgt Pseudo wrote:Obodiah Garro wrote:So where is this 135% damage figure comming from?
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A really useful fix would be fixing their bugging lock on mechanism. People crying about SL like you can fire it dumbfire into groups of people like a MD/FP.
smh
Don't know either, seems like they never tried to, you know, actually use one. One proto Swarm Launcher can't kill an ADS or skilled tanker* alone, that's actually damn hard to do. When a tank is driving alone in the open and/or stands still with no cover for half of the match he deserves to loose his vehicle. *except militia tanks
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star.
EoN.
894
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Posted - 2013.08.19 10:29:00 -
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90deg more like 270deg
Also i can lock through cover with basic swarms and the missiles love to avoid cover completely too
Problem is crutch users dont want any changes to the crutch, they are bad players and know it |
Delta 749
Kestrel Reconnaissance
1770
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Posted - 2013.08.19 10:41:00 -
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Definitely agree on 1
Need some evidence to back up your claim on 2
and honestly 3 would be an improvement since they wouldnt correct so much and crash into the terrain as often and we actually would be able to bank shots around corners |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades
C0VEN
159
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Posted - 2013.08.19 10:49:00 -
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yes we definitely need a vehicule dominated game cuz its from vehicule that you hack objectives
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