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The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.19 01:15:00 -
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Many of us find that there's something wrong with the commando heavy.
Does it need more slots?
Since its an Amarr heavy, its supposed to have low amount of slots
More base HP?
That wont really make that much of a difference
Here's some stats
Commando heavy
Shields: 250
Armor: 250
movement speed: 3.95 m/s
sprint speed: is 5.53 m/s
Basic Heavy
Shields: 405
Armor: 405
Movement speed: 3.65 m/s
Sprint speed: 5.11 m/s
[Amarr medium]
Shields: 180
Armor: 180
Movement speed: 4.80 m/s
Sprint speed: 6.72 m/s
Compared to a basic heavy, the commando heavy losses 155 shields and armor (310 HP total) for a 0.4 m/s increase to movement speed and a 0.4 m/s increase to sprint speed.
Compared to an Amarr medium frame, the commando gains 70 shields and armor (140 HP total) and is whopping 16.5% slower. Based on the new armor plate stats, 140 HP should only slow you down by only 4%. Since it is a heavy and 4% is not much of a penalty, it could be 8% slower than the Amarr medium frame:
New Commando heavy stats
Shields: 250
Armor: 250
movement speed: 4.4 m/s
sprint speed: is 6.16 m/s |
Thurak1
Psygod9
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Posted - 2013.08.19 02:13:00 -
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It would be very nice to have more slots also.
Right now its a worthless suit. I speced into the basic one just to give it a try out and its nice to be able to move a little faster but i find the lack of slots just stinks and to get some slots i have to spec into proto. Having 2 primary weapons isnt that great of a thing. |
Aizen Intiki
Ghost Wolf Industries
Alpha Wolf Pack
452
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Posted - 2013.08.19 02:30:00 -
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And add 1 more slot per frame until tiercide. |
Talos Alomar
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1426
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Posted - 2013.08.19 02:57:00 -
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Standard level suits need a low slot, and all variants need much more cpu/pg. |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
151
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Posted - 2013.08.19 03:46:00 -
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now what r the total hp values of the commando suit of the shield and armor upgrade skills r maxed?...
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The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2013.08.19 04:12:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:now what r the total hp values of the commando suit of the shield and armor upgrade skills r maxed?...
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The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2013.08.19 04:16:00 -
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Talos Alomar wrote:Standard level suits need a low slot, and all variants need much more cpu/pg.
Its a shame how CCP added this thing with a lot PG/CPU making it worse than a light frame suit for fitting things. |
CLONE117
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
152
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Posted - 2013.08.19 04:20:00 -
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i think the basic heavy hp values r off..the heavy suits shields with shield upgrades maxed r 506...
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The-Errorist
Mannar Focused Warfare
Gallente Federation
119
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Posted - 2013.08.19 04:21:00 -
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CLONE117 wrote:i think the basic heavy hp values r off..the heavy suits shields with shield upgrades maxed r 506...
Yeah, thanks. I forgot a 0 in there, its 506.25 instead of 562.5. |
I-Shayz-I
Forty-Nine Fedayeen
Minmatar Republic
646
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Posted - 2013.08.19 09:46:00 -
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Doesn't need more slots, more like an equipment or heavy slot instead of a light weapon at proto
It's an AMARR, all of the amarr dropsuits have lower slot counts than everything else.
It also could use a slight speed buff. |
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Spademan
The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar
DARKSTAR ARMY
238
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Posted - 2013.08.19 10:17:00 -
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I'll chime in, bear with me as I don't use heavys.
Now, I think having 300 armour and 300 shields, with a 2/2 or 2/3 slot layout could be a step in a good direction
Edit: At proto level mind |
WeapondigitX V7
Planetary Response Organization
Test Friends Please Ignore
71
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Posted - 2013.08.19 13:29:00 -
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The amarr commando does need a large sprint speed buff (like an extra 1.5 m/s)
I would love a extra large buff to sprint speed if movement speed was left untouched for the amarr commando.
The suit also needs some extra buffs in other ways like extra shields and armor, maybe even extra melee damage if sprint speed was increased a lot. The shield recharge delay or shield recharge rate needs a buff if other stats are not given a extra large buff.
Extra PG and CPU may be needed but only if extra slots are added. |
Zeylon Rho
Subdreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
1912
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Posted - 2013.08.19 14:25:00 -
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I made a post bitching about some of this awhile back.
The suit needs a lot of work still I think. I'm not sure if more HP would save it necessarily. The Sentinel gets around moving too much by being an area-denial role with lots of hp. The commando role demands a bit more movement (most of the success stories I hear about involve using a commando in a fixed position like Sniper/Swarm), and it suffers from slots/hp/speed when it tries to be mobile.
It gets next to nothing from the passives right now too, and the hp gap is going to get even bigger with the armor changes (which will benefit others with more slots more than the 3-slot tops Commando). |
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