An inferior heavy suit with no sidearm but has a nanohive...




Not sure what to say.

Yep, I think I will be spending some time in the MCC or running with my free scout suit watching the kill feed to see how OP this update will make the dual tanked shield suits and how many Massholes will be running around.

Except that the most commonly used weapon in the game destroys armor.

Who says combat rifle is coming in 1.4

I was referring to grenades. It gets so bad at times that people instinctively go for their Cores and M1s before they even consider pulling a trigger. With the current buff, Gallente can die to 2 grenades instead of 1 with the slight change of getting away.

Confirming 20 HP more per plate will make armour ludicrously OP and the 'de facto' choice of elite players everywhere.


Even in your edge case of 5x complex plates (which nobody will fit because their powergrid will overload and they'll barely be able to move) that's a difference of just a few more bullets. Of course, as you fit 5x complex plate you are also barely able to rep, unless you make use of a stationary and hard to fit item which is rather vulnerable, or have a teammate fit an item specifically to deal with you frequently. Should you be cut off from either, you can expect to die a slow and horrible death as you bleed armour in every engagement, while taking more damage each engagement because the opponent can hit you much more easily.
Alternatively, you are liable to be killed through your armour buffer because of a certain locus grenade being able to one shot through your entire buffer.

Yep, armour OP. Let's go nerf it, to say 1 extra HP per plate. How does that sound?

Cal Logis still can get more HP than any other medium suit, even a Gallente Logistics.

Depends what your getting shot from.

Wait wut? Isn't that what you just did...

How is it flawed, armor is less resistant to damage than shields and this is a known fact. 100 shields =/= 100 armor. The Caldari logistics could get 1100 HP, almost 700 of that HP was just in shields, while a Gallente Logistics can only max 520 HP in armor if he mitigates speed penalties. If it wasn't for the fact the suits high CPU/PG was abused to stack very powerful plates along with their extremely power shields, and a powerful gun to get HP and damage rivaling that of a heavy they wouldn't have been nerfed which is exactly why I think dual tanking shouldn't be so effective. Just because the numbers look the same doesn't mean that they are, 500 shields is more useful than 500 armor, now if lets say we have 500 shields vs 625 armor then we are closer to having equal usefulness when it comes to damage resistance. I honestly think the Caldari Logistics should get its bonus back, but only if they do something to keep it from dual tanking.

He will also be as slow as a heavy

That fit is laughable to me, putting on plates without any rep. Replace that Ishukone with a repping Allotek hive (it's possible) and maybe I'm not laughing anymore. Actually, no. You are still going to die while reloading since you have no sidearm, so I will continue laughing.

The bonus was fine. It's the slot layout, and the ability to fit nine HP mods if you want to. An entire extra HP mod makes more of a difference than a couple of bullets.
All that was really required was to tweak the slot layout, not to nerf the bonus and CPU.