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Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1501	Posted - 2013.08.17 21:40:00 - [1] - Quote First of all, I am not saying this person HACKED the game. I am saying that he was hacking a CRU. So there is Parson, hacking a CRU. He was a Callogi and I was a scout. I unloaded my 'Exile' Assault Rifle into him point blank range. I could not have missed at all. No damage registered and it's almost as if my shots never even occurred. Parson paid no attention to me but he finished his hack saw me and killed me. My squadmates told me there is a video of the same thing, about a shotgunner, but I searched and couldn't find it. This is a pretty bad glitch and it needs attention.
Cass Caul Namtar Elite Gallente Federation 52	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:08:00 - [2] - Quote The shotgun thing is unrelated. It just doesn't work point-blank-range. I think the weapons actually fire from about 1m outside the display. were you actually point-blank, or did you try moving in and out?
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1501	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:12:00 - [3] - Quote Cass Caul wrote: The shotgun thing is unrelated. It just doesn't work point-blank-range. I think the weapons actually fire from about 1m outside the display. were you actually point-blank, or did you try moving in and out? I was like 2.2 meters away shooting a target strafing in about 1 meter (but that didn't really matter, my angle made the strafe redundant). I was seeing my shots hit, but no damage and he obviously was not taking notice of my shots, like they weren't making sound or just straight up didn't exist. It was weird.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. League of Infamy 528	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:42:00 - [4] - Quote I have had similar issues. I believe that the null cannon actual takes the hits sometimes when you are clearly targeting the person hacking it. Seems like this is a bug with the null cannon model and its hitbox. Edit: The hitbox model being larger than the model would also explain why you were getting a hit marker, you were hitting the null cannon.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1501	Posted - 2013.08.17 22:51:00 - [5] - Quote Mobius Kaethis wrote: I have had similar issues. I believe that the null cannon actual takes the hits sometimes when you are clearly targeting the person hacking it. Seems like this is a bug with the null cannon model and its hitbox. Edit: The hitbox model being larger than the model would also explain why you were getting a hit marker, you were hitting the null cannon. And CRU hitboxes? This event happened with a CRU after all but I can see similar things happening with Null Cannons
Blake Kingston Sinq Laison Gendarmes Gallente Federation 49	Posted - 2013.08.17 23:54:00 - [6] - Quote CRU have those four fat legs on their sides. Once someone was at a supply depo and I emptied a clip into the leg of the depo, when it looked a clear shot, even if it was at an angle.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1502	Posted - 2013.08.18 00:10:00 - [7] - Quote Blake Kingston wrote: CRU have those four fat legs on their sides. Once someone was at a supply depo and I emptied a clip into the leg of the depo, when it looked a clear shot, even if it was at an angle. True but it I was behind the CRU, so I had view of his back. On top of that he killed me where I stood.

CCP Logibro C C P C C P Alliance 512	Posted - 2013.08.18 14:45:00 - [8] - Quote I've seen the video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxCcmxLtuw ) you referred to in the OP and passed it onto QA earlier this week. Is it possible for you to jump into a game and get a screenshot of someone standing in the same location on a CRU? Additionally, has anyone else found problems shooting people near other installations? CCP Logibro // EVE Universe Community Team // Distributor of Nanites // Patron Saint of Logistics @CCP_Logibro

RKKR The Southern Legion 317	Posted - 2013.08.18 15:07:00 - [9] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: I've seen the video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxCcmxLtuw ) you referred to in the OP and passed it onto QA earlier this week. Is it possible for you to jump into a game and get a screenshot of someone standing in the same location on a CRU? Additionally, has anyone else found problems shooting people near other installations? Yes.
Tal-Rakken DUST University Ivy League 61	Posted - 2013.08.18 17:12:00 - [10] - Quote The angle is what matters the hit boxes on fixed positions are slightly larger than the actual positions so you can try shooting at a guy hacking at an angle that is too close to the installation and hit the installation instead of the person hacking. What's even worse is the objective hack points while you may have a clear line of sight there are angles which you cannot fire into them(directly above for one). Is there a way to take a screenshot without a capture card??
shaman oga Nexus Balusa Horizon DARKSTAR ARMY 438	Posted - 2013.08.18 18:00:00 - [11] - Quote It happens since chromosome, when an enemy is near an hackable installation, sometime he can't be killed, if he does not move, if he moves you can damage him.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1506	Posted - 2013.08.18 22:01:00 - [12] - Quote shaman oga wrote: It happens since chromosome, when an enemy is near an hackable installation, sometime he can't be killed, if he does not move, if he moves you can damage him. This guy was strafing while hacking
Parson Atreides Ahrendee Mercenaries EoN. 588	Posted - 2013.08.18 22:19:00 - [13] - Quote Whoa there. First off, the hitboxes can be screwed up near structures, as someone pointed out with certain null cannon structures. Secondly, I always strafe when I hack just in case someone comes up behind me. Thirdly, I did kill you but that's because you were running a scout suit and I was using a mass driver. I don't exploit any weird glitches or bugs that make me invincible and if you were shooting me directly in the back and not hurting me, it's just as likely you were the one bugged. Also, I think you see the blue shield when you shot the CRU too, so maybe that's why you thought you were hitting me.
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1506	Posted - 2013.08.18 22:21:00 - [14] - Quote Parson Atreides wrote: Whoa there. First off, the hitboxes can be screwed up near structures, as someone pointed out with certain null cannon structures. Secondly, I always strafe when I hack just in case someone comes up behind me. Thirdly, I did kill you but that's because you were running a scout suit and I was using a mass driver. I don't exploit any weird glitches or bugs that make me invincible and if you were shooting me directly in the back and not hurting me, it's just as likely you were the one bugged. No I am not saying anything like you hacked the game on purpose, I'm saying you were hacking that CRU. Weird stuff happens that's all.
KalOfTheRathi Black Phoenix Mercenaries 574	Posted - 2013.08.18 22:59:00 - [15] - Quote Hmm. I kill anyone hacking anything and do it consistently regardless of my Fit. I Only Aim At The Head, unless I am using the HMG and mostly even then. There is no hit box issue when aiming your pip at the head, no strafing required, no finesse. Just Aim Down The Sights (ADS) and put their head into the hamburger zone. Heavies with 1100HP will fall as has everything thing else. Don't forget to Reload First.
Sky Dovahkiin WAR LIONS 2	Posted - 2013.08.19 12:08:00 - [16] - Quote That my friend is called lag...
Korvin Lomont United Pwnage Service RISE of LEGION 99	Posted - 2013.08.19 12:48:00 - [17] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: I've seen the video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxCcmxLtuw ) you referred to in the OP and passed it onto QA earlier this week. Is it possible for you to jump into a game and get a screenshot of someone standing in the same location on a CRU? Additionally, has anyone else found problems shooting people near other installations? If yes, which ones, and where were you and the other person standing? Yes mostly on CRU's but sometimes its easier to hit someone on the opposite site of a supply depot as well. I have also recognzized that reptools will nearly always lock on the installation instead of a merc standing in front of that installation regardless if your reptool points directly on the merc, maybe for the same reason...
CaveCav Eliters D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 16	Posted - 2013.08.19 15:33:00 - [18] - Quote I've seen this happen with all installations from CRU to Null Cannons, also Turrets and Supply Depots... Even if I have a clear LoS on my target the installation eats my rounds, so I have to litteralli jump at them and put my gun inside them. This shows that installations have a larger hitbox and a smaller in game model, please fix this.
MarasdF Loron Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack 47	Posted - 2013.08.19 16:36:00 - [19] - Quote Happens to me everytime someone is trying to hack an objective.
Vargralor Mikramurka Shock Troop Minmatar Republic 7	Posted - 2013.08.26 03:42:00 - [20] - Quote I've seen it on most hackable structures. I have found that the issue usually occurs for me when I have a line of fire past the jutting out leg of the structure. The hitbox for the leg seems to be substantially larger than the visual model. When I move around further so that I am in the same gap between the two legs as the target I am generally able to hit them fine. The same issue often occurs in objective points when attempting to shoot someone at an angle the comes near the metal walls around most of the objectives. The line of fire appears clear but the shots strike something between you and the target. It is very common when trying to shoot down from above into an objective. You can also lob grenades at this clear line of fire and watch them bounce off of the hitbox, like an invisible wall, despite the fact there is no visible model there. Note that I have done this many times whilst stationary so it is definitely not lag.
Harpyja DUST University Ivy League 549	Posted - 2013.08.26 12:02:00 - [21] - Quote I've noticed that turret and NULL installation hit boxes are sometimes off. I have a clear line of sight to my target but my shots are registering on the installation. Kind of annoying because I waste ammo and the person gets the hack and kills me as I'm reloading...
Protected Void STRONG-ARMED BANDITS 67	Posted - 2013.08.26 14:49:00 - [22] - Quote I've experienced this a couple of times at objectives. Once I emptied a whole SMG clip into the hacker's head; no damage. That was from right outside the objective, about 1 meter away, with an absolutely clear view. I've also experienced it when I was inside the installation, right next to the hacker, but that time I was able to start doing damage by strafing a bit back and forth and sideways. I've also emptied a full clip of the Core flaylock, with the explosions rendering on the wall right next to the hacker, doing no damage at all. That might be the general poor hit detection of flaylocks, though.
Heavy Breaks Red Star. EoN. 235	Posted - 2013.08.28 01:56:00 - [23] - Quote Installations have shields it's those you're hitting as the hit boxes for them are MASSIVE, Ridiculously so. As for null cannons they have shields as well although I have no idea why as they can't be destroyed.
Mobius Kaethis Molon Labe. RISE of LEGION 676	Posted - 2013.08.31 05:05:00 - [24] - Quote They have made the shield hit boxes closer to the model in recent builds. Now we can actually shoot peoples feet when they are hiding behind suply depots which is a huge step in the right direction.
BARDAS DUST University Ivy League 383	Posted - 2013.08.31 11:27:00 - [25] - Quote Can confirm this has happened to me using Nova Knives and not only while someone is hacking something. This is like normal attacks and fighting people. No hits register. Probably a different problem than the video, but it sure looks the same.
NoxMort3m D.A.R.K L.E.G.I.O.N D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E 59	Posted - 2013.09.02 06:47:00 - [26] - Quote CCP Logibro wrote: I've seen the video ( https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOxCcmxLtuw ) you referred to in the OP and passed it onto QA earlier this week. Is it possible for you to jump into a game and get a screenshot of someone standing in the same location on a CRU? Additionally, has anyone else found problems shooting people near other installations? If yes, which ones, and where were you and the other person standing? i know you can snug a installation sometimes and survive an orbital, like you can hide in the shields , but there is a hit detection problem just in general, which i know you guys are working on, seen videos of ppl unloading into each other and giving no damage, seen it in matches.
pseudosnipre DUST University Ivy League 156	Posted - 2013.09.03 21:29:00 - [27] - Quote Installation shields protecting hackers WOULD be nice, if intentional...
Bojo The Mighty Zanzibar Concept 1659	Posted - 2013.09.04 04:51:00 - [28] - Quote pseudosnipre wrote: Installation shields protecting hackers WOULD be nice, if intentional... dear god, a thousand Remote Explosive kills would...disappear.

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