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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.08.17 10:16:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:I really hope someone reads this and i'm not wasting time lol. Dust has a serious connection problem,ive been playing online for 20 years and this is the worst ive seen and its not my connection,i can download 25 megs per second.Its inadmissable that a game as big as Dust has connection problems,i play Battlefield 3,for example and i get no lag nor connection problems and that game has got beautifull graphics. I'm sure ccp is aware of this and i have a suggestion.You guys could contact a company that rents servers just like Dice did for Battlefield 3 and people could rent these servers.I also suggest banning lag switchers,if you dont know how to get them,heres another suggestion,just implement a report system and if they have like 5 reports for lag switch using,you just moniter his activity and warn him of it,if he persists you ban him,kinda like many other games.Thank you for reading this and please consider the servers rental,you can even make some money and every corp could have its own servers,thus ending all lag/connection issues.Its just a suggestion and im sure you've thinked about doing it,but just in case you havent,im writing and if youre wandering if this will kill the game,all i have to say is this...If you dont solve the lag issues,this games dies anyway,i barely play it already and everyone i know complains.Thank you again ccp.
Sir, you wasted time typing something that many people including myself are not going to read because you didn't use the one special key, Enter. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:05:00 -
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Oddly I get less lag playing EU servers than playing US servers and I live in the states.
As for server architecture, I am not sure there is not much else you can surpass once you beat wall street servers when it comes to mass access and distribution of data (versus the pure number crunchers) and CCP has surpassed wall street servers. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:07:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:I really hope someone reads this and i'm not wasting time lol. Dust has a serious connection problem,ive been playing online for 20 years and this is the worst ive seen and its not my connection,i can download 25 megs per second.Its inadmissable that a game as big as Dust has connection problems,i play Battlefield 3,for example and i get no lag nor connection problems and that game has got beautifull graphics. I'm sure ccp is aware of this and i have a suggestion.You guys could contact a company that rents servers just like Dice did for Battlefield 3 and people could rent these servers.I also suggest banning lag switchers,if you dont know how to get them,heres another suggestion,just implement a report system and if they have like 5 reports for lag switch using,you just moniter his activity and warn him of it,if he persists you ban him,kinda like many other games.Thank you for reading this and please consider the servers rental,you can even make some money and every corp could have its own servers,thus ending all lag/connection issues.Its just a suggestion and im sure you've thinked about doing it,but just in case you havent,im writing and if youre wandering if this will kill the game,all i have to say is this...If you dont solve the lag issues,this games dies anyway,i barely play it already and everyone i know complains.Thank you again ccp. Sir, you wasted time typing something that many people including myself are not going to read because you didn't use the one special key, Enter. What?
Wall of Text, Fix it. Do they speak in paragraphs in What? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:14:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Its not hard to read,im trying to save space. Thats not even the point now is it?
/me backhands the original poster
The whole thing is already wasted space son, paragraphs use em! |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:21:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:[quote=Sky Dovahkiin]Its not hard to read,im trying to save space. Thats not even the point now is it?
/me backhands the original poster The whole thing is already wasted space son, paragraphs use em! Go **** yourself lol
Maybe if you used paragraphs this wouldn't have derailed as much, learn posting excellence and your point will get across much further and pray tell I hope that your aim isn't as bad as you type. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:23:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Forget about lag switches,ok? The point is that game CAN NOT support cross region play.So i suggested a solution.RENT SERVERS.
How would this fix it? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:26:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:[quote=Sky Dovahkiin]Its not hard to read,im trying to save space. Thats not even the point now is it?
/me backhands the original poster The whole thing is already wasted space son, paragraphs use em! Go **** yourself lol Maybe if you used paragraphs this wouldn't have derailed as much, learn posting excellence and your point will get across much further. I can write better than you in five languages boy,dont patronize me lol. If you were a little more evolved,you wouldnt even have said nothing...
Well you certainly have a failure in one of them. Also if you were so proficient in getting the point across we wouldn't have this discussion now would we? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:28:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Forget about lag switches,ok? The point is that game CAN NOT support cross region play.So i suggested a solution.RENT SERVERS.
How would this fix it? DUH lol
Duh what? |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:35:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Forget about lag switches,ok? The point is that game CAN NOT support cross region play.So i suggested a solution.RENT SERVERS.
How would this fix it? DUH lol Duh what? Duh is not an answer. If anything it just further shows you did no homework regarding this subject either. Ok you inbred redneck,ill draw you a picture lol MORE SERVERS=LESS DATA LESS DATA=FASTER CONNECTION FASTER CONNECTION=BETTER LATENCY BETTER LATENCY=LESS LAG capice?
I can draw you a picture where your model is wrong.
For example more servers = less data is entirely untrue which the first fact being wrong invalidates the entire chain. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:48:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:As for name calling...He started it with the insults not me. And i know what can cause lag,im saying how to SOLVE IT
I didn't start with any name calling at all, I insulted your lack of paragraphs using quotes from the infamous movie Pop culture though retooled for this scenario.
Also Solving problems requires understanding the problem. You clearly don't understand the problem. So back again what would sever rental do to fix the lag? |
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Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.08.18 22:52:00 -
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Oh oh I know what causes lag.
The theory of relativity does along with Thermal Dynamics, and finally all the known/guessed physics of the electron. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:11:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Oh oh I know what causes lag.
The theory of relativity does along with Thermal Dynamics, and finally all the known/guessed physics of the electron. You threatened to slap me boy,you called me son and you disrespected me by saying i cant type. Plus,i can exlain to you the theory of relativity if you want son... I know how servers work and computers and cpu processors,so stop trying to make others look bad. Youre an admin in this site and you dont have the education to be one. Your ego is writing checks that youre pea brain cant cash and in this battle of wits youre a light weight and completly unarmed son.
No. No you can't the simple fact you don't understand why a rented server would fix lag is proof you don't understand (because quoting it is not the same as understanding) the theory of relativity.
Also an Unarmed Redneck is oxymoronic. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:18:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Kane Banned wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Oh oh I know what causes lag.
The theory of relativity does along with Thermal Dynamics, and finally all the known/guessed physics of the electron. You threatened to slap me boy,you called me son and you disrespected me by saying i cant type. Plus,i can exlain to you the theory of relativity if you want son... I know how servers work and computers and cpu processors,so stop trying to make others look bad. Youre an admin in this site and you dont have the education to be one. Your ego is writing checks that youre pea brain cant cash and in this battle of wits youre a light weight and completly unarmed son. 1. He's not an admin 2. You do type bad My typing is not the issue,im portuguese.
There is not a single language I can recall that likes the wall of text, even the cuneiform writings break up their stories by columns.
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Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:23:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Oh oh I know what causes lag.
The theory of relativity does along with Thermal Dynamics, and finally all the known/guessed physics of the electron. You threatened to slap me boy,you called me son and you disrespected me by saying i cant type. Plus,i can exlain to you the theory of relativity if you want son... I know how servers work and computers and cpu processors,so stop trying to make others look bad. Youre an admin in this site and you dont have the education to be one. Your ego is writing checks that youre pea brain cant cash and in this battle of wits youre a light weight and completly unarmed son. No. No you can't the simple fact you don't understand why a rented server would fix lag is proof you don't understand (because quoting it is not the same as understanding) the theory of relativity. Also an Unarmed Redneck is oxymoronic. Let me put it to you differently. If you play in a less crowded server that is near you(rented server) the lag is less,dont you aggree?
Disagree, more efficient servers are the way to go because each server is cost prohibitive to run because of the floor space, cooling, environment, technical support, hardware support, cost of cycles, cost of upgrades, degradation of bandwidth, cluttering of the cluster, counter to disaster recovery, backup nightmares, backup requirements, sigma six+ redundancy efforts, security, firewalls, employee and customer accessibility, environmental maintenance, software maintenance, and hardware maintenance, additional ISP contracting, Domain services... the list goes on and on as to why adding more machines can be considered a bad move at times. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:36:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote: I totally agree that better servers would be better but there are many server rental companies in every country and that would solve everything,CCP would just have to pay those companies to use their servers and the technical support would be done by those third party companies,just like DICE did with BF3 and we all know that works.
You still don't get it.
Battlefield has over 100k different games each a fragment away from each other with no relation whatsoever.
Dust 514 EVERY FIGHT is non-instanced. Its physically occurring somewhere in New Eden at a certain specific location every time. I can fly to a planet in Eve look at it and can tell if there is a fight actively going on the ground or not. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.08.18 23:54:00 -
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Mobius Wyvern wrote:Marc Rime wrote: 3. Lag switches? How can you tell anyone is using those what with your poor connection and all? Do they even work in this game?
They don't, because this game uses server-side hit detection.
Server side everything just about. |
Iron Wolf Saber
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Posted - 2013.08.19 19:26:00 -
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Sky Dovahkiin wrote:Csikszent Mihalyi wrote:I'll try to address your various points individually, because you are kind of jumping around between different issues.
1) Technology will improve, but we cannot solve the fundamental problem that it takes time for data to travel around the world. This will be solved through faster connectivity, better servers are irrelevant for this problem.
2) If you experience lag against corps from other regions then this is either because you are playing in their region (a problem that more servers cannot solve) or what you experience is actually them lagging because they are playing in your region (again, not a problem multiple servers can solve).
3) It's not about the time it takes for processors to calculate. As long as servers are fast enough to handle requests at a respectable tick rate, adding additional server resources won't do anything to improve lag.
4) Whether you have fibre optics or not makes no difference, because this only affects the speed of data between your computer and your nearest host. When data has to travel across the globe, it will have to travel through many hosts and it will still be delayed significantly. Your personal connection has no affect on that at all. Again, right now it is physically impossible to play a realtime game with people across the globe, without some significant latency. Only improving the state of internet connectivity around the world is going to make a difference with this. Aside from that, the only thing games can do is to hide the effects of lag as much as possible or only put you up against local players.
If CCP servers could not handle the bandwidth or processing requirements for the game, then this would indeed be a problem that can be fixed by throwing more physical hardware at it. But there is no indication that this is actually the case. Youre saying stuff i said earlier and the way a server is set and the way a game is programmed does affect lattency...
1. Theory of Relativity is the limit here. 2. More servers would complicate and lag this problem even MORE. 3. Improving client talk has far greater effect than server expansion. 4. Hence why more servers are always bad
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