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Gigatron Prime
The.Primes
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Posted - 2013.08.17 09:28:00 -
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http://www.mmorpg.com//gamelist.cfm/setview/features/loadFeature/7687/gameID/494/utm_campaign/MMORPG%20Daily%20Digest%20Email/utm_source/MMORPG/utm_medium/email/eatrack/NeroRomulus93@gmail.com,8
An aptly made review and why I am finally over this game. |
JL3Eleven
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
605
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Posted - 2013.08.17 09:39:00 -
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Dibs on your stuff? |
LT SHANKS
Amarr Templars Amarr Empire
405
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Posted - 2013.08.17 09:51:00 -
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May I have some ISK? |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
511
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Posted - 2013.08.17 10:40:00 -
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A very generous 7.2.
More undeserved praise for potential. |
Oscar Neymar
Dogz O War D.E.F.I.A.N.C.E
4
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:17:00 -
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I do like Dust , but the review is rite about the problems .. No need to add more |
Knightshade Belladonna
Mannar Focused Warfare Gallente Federation
913
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:19:00 -
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FFXIV ARR Open Beta weekend, followed by pre order early access , followed by package in mail and you won't see me as often anymore. |
Canari Elphus
Pro Hic Immortalis League of Infamy
300
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:26:00 -
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Sounds like a reviewer that has actually played the game for more than a couple hours. |
Allah's Snackbar
Forty-Nine Fedayeen Minmatar Republic
511
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Posted - 2013.08.17 11:45:00 -
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Knightshade Belladonna wrote:FFXIV ARR Open Beta weekend, followed by pre order early access , followed by package in mail and you won't see me as often anymore. The clock is ticking on DUST.
It's really as simple as that.
The offering is poor and the behind the scenes appears to be a total shambles. |
Sgt Buttscratch
G I A N T EoN.
618
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:16:00 -
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The pay to win bit is amazingly off once again. Other than that not bad, not that I'd listen to reviews. They are corrupt, best reviews usually have advertisements on the reviewing website. Plus COD always gets a high score, when it really isn't a high score game. |
THE TRAINSPOTTER
ROMANIA Renegades C0VEN
132
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:39:00 -
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all i see is PS3 this , PS3 that
to me he sounds like a bitter PC fanboi |
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MarasdF Loron
Ghost Wolf Industries Alpha Wolf Pack
43
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:41:00 -
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Didn't read it all yet but there he says in #5 that it is pay to win and then in #6 he says it is not pay to win... can this guy decide? |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3602
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:43:00 -
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I have a beef with the author on his assumption that Dust is pay-to-win. Despite the time difference offered by boosters, every player will eventually train up to the weapon of their choice given enough time. You may be able to real 10 million SP sooner with boosters than I would without them, but I will eventually hit the 10 million SP mark as well.
And considering that I am without boosters, I would more encouraged to focus what little SP I currently have on core skills that can make even my low-level suits seem powerful. If you look at someone with boosters, those players are more than likely to spend their extra SP needlessly because they have more to work with.
It's like looking at guys eating chips. One eats his chips in small portions from a plate while other eats his chips straight from the bag. The one eating from the plate is more likely to be conservative because he has less to eat at one time while the other has a higher likelihood of emptying the bag in just one day or two because he has more in front of him and he probably won't notice it until he is half way done with the bag and then realizes he should have been more conservative.
Although I do agree with the author in that the game is currently not all that different from the others at the moment but it's important to note that CCP plans on expanding this game over time and fixing it as they go along. Now, that may seem like a very alien and unorthodox concept for many first-person shooters, but that's the way CCP wants it to be. In fact, if CCP were to try to finish the game in its entirety, it probably would have taken until 2015 before the game even comes out of closed beta. |
zzZaXxx
The Exemplars Top Men.
185
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:49:00 -
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Yup |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
867
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Posted - 2013.08.17 13:57:00 -
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lol says its crap yet gets a 7.2
Then again i see worse games get 8+ like COD lol |
Maken Tosch
DUST University Ivy League
3603
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:02:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:lol says its crap yet gets a 7.2
Then again i see worse games get 8+ like COD lol
The only good thing about COD is the graphics. That's it. If I wanted to play a fun shooter, I can always play Halo. |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
399
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:20:00 -
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Dust is Eternal. |
Seymor Krelborn
DUST University Ivy League
536
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:21:00 -
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I agree with the article except the p2w part.... all the sp and aur gear in the world doesn't stand a chance against raw skill...
CCP, wake the EFF up! yes dust is fun but its a shadow of what it should be....
the author hit the nail on the head about you guys... your heads are too big, you thought EVE gave you the right to inflate your egos...
all youre doing is insulting your player base and making yourselves look far dumber than you are.
that being said I still play and enjoy my time... but I don't buy anything anymore and wont until I feel I can trust them again. |
Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
867
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:28:00 -
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If any reviewer says P2W in regards to DUST then they simply havnt played the game because in no way is it |
Anarchide
Greedy Bastards
399
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Posted - 2013.08.17 14:32:00 -
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Quote:When I can empty an entire clip into an enemy only to have them kill me with two shots... that's a problem, even when playing with a squad.
That's an uneducated statement; that could have been an head-on Scout encounter with an Heavy.
There are so many factors involved: dropsuits, gear, weapons used and Skills (Tree and players' ones). Unlike unarmored puny humans, no Mercs are equals on the battlefield due to their skills and how they are geared. |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
647
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:01:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:If any reviewer says P2W in regards to DUST then they simply havnt played the game because in no way is it Did you read it? They conceded that you can't buy equip that's outright better with real cash, just that you can buy shortcuts through boosters. Considering the massive gap between 500k SP and 15 million in both time and combat effectiveness that shortcut is a gamechanger bought through real money.
I would have to agree. |
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Takahiro Kashuken
Red Star. EoN.
868
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:04:00 -
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Poplo Furuya wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:If any reviewer says P2W in regards to DUST then they simply havnt played the game because in no way is it Did you read it? They conceded that you can't buy equip that's outright better with real cash, just that you can buy shortcuts through boosters. Considering the massive gap between 500k SP and 15 million in both time and combat effectiveness that shortcut is a gamechanger bought through real money. I would have to agree.
Shortcut
P2W
See the difference? you still have to aim, well not lolswarms/avnades
Its just saving time and reducing the grind not instantly buying kills and wins |
Poplo Furuya
Condotta Rouvenor Gallente Federation
647
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:12:00 -
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Takahiro Kashuken wrote:Poplo Furuya wrote:Takahiro Kashuken wrote:If any reviewer says P2W in regards to DUST then they simply havnt played the game because in no way is it Did you read it? They conceded that you can't buy equip that's outright better with real cash, just that you can buy shortcuts through boosters. Considering the massive gap between 500k SP and 15 million in both time and combat effectiveness that shortcut is a gamechanger bought through real money. I would have to agree. Shortcut P2W See the difference? you still have to aim, well not lolswarms/avnades Its just saving time and reducing the grind not instantly buying kills and wins It does plateau into a more even game once the 15mil SP mark is reached, yes, but that's 10 months or so of active playing without boosters and 5 months with. It's more time=power than pay to win but there is some element of the latter if there is any non-negligible part of the playerbase who haven't been actively playing for 10 months.
And if there isn't? That's extremely bad news. |
soulreaper73
PFB Pink Fluffy Bunnies
241
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:19:00 -
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Maken Tosch wrote:I have a beef with the author on his assumption that Dust is pay-to-win. Despite the time difference offered by boosters, every player will eventually train up to the weapon of their choice given enough time. You may be able to reach 10 million SP sooner with boosters than I would without them, but I will eventually hit the 10 million SP mark as well.
And considering that I am without boosters, I would more encouraged to focus what little SP I currently have on core skills that can make even my low-level suits seem powerful. If you look at someone with boosters, those players are more than likely to spend their extra SP needlessly because they have more to work with.
It's like looking at guys eating chips. One eats his chips in small portions from a plate while other eats his chips straight from the bag. The one eating from the plate is more likely to be conservative because he has less to eat at one time while the other has a higher likelihood of emptying the bag in just one day or two because he has more in front of him and he probably won't notice it until he is half way done with the bag and then realizes he should have been more conservative.
Although I do agree with the author in that the game is currently not all that different from the others at the moment but it's important to note that CCP plans on expanding this game over time and fixing it as they go along. Now, that may seem like a very alien and unorthodox concept for many first-person shooters, but that's the way CCP wants it to be. In fact, if CCP were to try to finish the game in its entirety, it probably would have taken until 2015 before the game even comes out of closed beta.
CCP would have been better off taking their time with the game and releasing it on ps4 with a couple of more years of development than releasing it in its current state. Perhaps your 2015 release date would have been a smarter move all along. As a result, anything they may or may not fix in a couple of years may be too late as folks will have moved onto other things. Remember EVE was a PC strategy game and Dust is a FPS console game, they are two different games, same universe or not, that appeal to two different fan bases. I think CCP assumed too much based upon EVE and misread the console gamer market |
DUST Fiend
OSG Planetary Operations Covert Intervention
5762
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Posted - 2013.08.17 15:43:00 -
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Very good article, lots of truth bombs in there.
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