DUST Search - Vote 'Derek the bird' for CPM1

Poonmunch wrote:

No. Please see the post below. One I made in another thread:

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Elections are and will be popularity contests. If CCP is seen to certify an elected body, the elected people will certainly see themselves as more "legitimate" than the current CPM and will act in such a fashion.

If CCP doesn't stick to any of the elected body's most minor requests, there will almost certainly be instant cries of "CCP isn't responding to my elected status as the legitimate and sole director of the future of this game!". Of course, many forum flames will follow this type of thinking and the community could begin to fracture.

I can smell the forum smoke now.

And what about corps that are small or even middle sized? And big corps? Will each get an equal voice? Will there be one representative from each corp or a handful from the mega corps? Many, if not all, would vote for guys they play with regularly, giving the really big corps a huge voice at the CPM table. There will inevitably be complaints that this elected CPM is using their position to work for changes that benefit their corps, race or agenda. What if the CPM gets stacked with people who want to run DUST as their own personal extension of EVE and will try to mold DUST into something that benefits EVE (and not necessarily the DUST community)? Would you ban DUST corps that are associated with EVE corps from voting?

I can smell the forum smoke now.

How would you run the election? Does each alt get a vote? What about people who make a bunch of alts (like the people who pad their K/D ratios)? What about people who make several Sony accounts? What would the length of term be? Years? Decades? Even a term of one year will cover 12 monthly updates and probably a few versions. That might be a bit too much power for a handful of people. And what if the next elected council wants to undo things that the prior elected council fought for?

I can smell the forum smoke now.

And what about the CPM members themselves? They will get bombarded with requests and demands for action because the community will see them as the conduit for their variously thought out ideas and angry demands. The candidates for CPM should heed that warning because they will become lightning rods for every fool and dreamer with an idea or axe to grind. I can see the piles of e-mails and in-game mails in the CPMs boxes right now. The forums are actually a good place to weed out the good requests from the stupid, irrational or unworkable ones. CCP and the current CPM can read these as well as anyone.

Elections seem like a good idea but the most effective, responsive human organizations are definitely not democratic (businesses, the military, the police, the fire department, EMS, the arts, NASA, the CIA, sports, etc, etc). None are run as democracies. Democracies work best at keeping things stable and middle of the road, not for bold, revolutionary, decisive action.

I think an elected body is a na+»ve aspiration at best and an invitation to chaos at worst.

Munch


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NanoCleric The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 76	Posted - 2013.08.16 16:35:00 - [1] - Quote Derek has my vote, i know him well. Hearing him chirp his commands to us as we're all squadded up. He always has plenty to say and i respect his opinions. Also he's always willing to listen to anything people have to say in exchange for a little bird feed.
NanoCleric The Unholy Legion Of DarkStar DARKSTAR ARMY 76	Posted - 2013.08.16 18:10:00 - [2] - Quote Poonmunch wrote: No. Please see the post below. One I made in another thread: ************************************************************************************************************************************************* Elections are and will be popularity contests. If CCP is seen to certify an elected body, the elected people will certainly see themselves as more "legitimate" than the current CPM and will act in such a fashion. If CCP doesn't stick to any of the elected body's most minor requests, there will almost certainly be instant cries of "CCP isn't responding to my elected status as the legitimate and sole director of the future of this game!". Of course, many forum flames will follow this type of thinking and the community could begin to fracture. I can smell the forum smoke now. And what about corps that are small or even middle sized? And big corps? Will each get an equal voice? Will there be one representative from each corp or a handful from the mega corps? Many, if not all, would vote for guys they play with regularly, giving the really big corps a huge voice at the CPM table. There will inevitably be complaints that this elected CPM is using their position to work for changes that benefit their corps, race or agenda. What if the CPM gets stacked with people who want to run DUST as their own personal extension of EVE and will try to mold DUST into something that benefits EVE (and not necessarily the DUST community)? Would you ban DUST corps that are associated with EVE corps from voting? I can smell the forum smoke now. How would you run the election? Does each alt get a vote? What about people who make a bunch of alts (like the people who pad their K/D ratios)? What about people who make several Sony accounts? What would the length of term be? Years? Decades? Even a term of one year will cover 12 monthly updates and probably a few versions. That might be a bit too much power for a handful of people. And what if the next elected council wants to undo things that the prior elected council fought for? I can smell the forum smoke now. And what about the CPM members themselves? They will get bombarded with requests and demands for action because the community will see them as the conduit for their variously thought out ideas and angry demands. The candidates for CPM should heed that warning because they will become lightning rods for every fool and dreamer with an idea or axe to grind. I can see the piles of e-mails and in-game mails in the CPMs boxes right now. The forums are actually a good place to weed out the good requests from the stupid, irrational or unworkable ones. CCP and the current CPM can read these as well as anyone. Elections seem like a good idea but the most effective, responsive human organizations are definitely not democratic (businesses, the military, the police, the fire department, EMS, the arts, NASA, the CIA, sports, etc, etc). None are run as democracies. Democracies work best at keeping things stable and middle of the road, not for bold, revolutionary, decisive action. I think an elected body is a na+»ve aspiration at best and an invitation to chaos at worst. Munch Bird's the word ;)