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Seymor Krelborn
DUST University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2013.08.18 01:57:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Has no place here, especially when you consider we have shields and lasers, spaceships and immortal clones. not only this, but we have a theocratic Empire that actually managed to make it to space, I still don't see how it's realistic in the slightest. Get out with your realism.
King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here!Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here!
all fantasy is unreal with realistic properties and more importantly must be true to its own rules of what is and isn't possible...
take superman, unreal right, kryptonite, unreal, yes, but if superman were to suddenly be impervious to kryptonite without any sort of explanation that fits with that reality it would lack "realism"
same rule applies here, things must be real to the fantasy environment created, sometimes some of that realness overlaps with our reality, example: guns kill real in this world and ours.... |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
463
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Posted - 2013.08.18 02:59:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Has no place here, especially when you consider we have shields and lasers, spaceships and immortal clones. not only this, but we have a theocratic Empire that actually managed to make it to space, I still don't see how it's realistic in the slightest. Get out with your realism.
King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here!Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here!
I don't think people mean realism when they talk about the factions or being a future mercenary they mean realism when it comes down to things like collisions, how a gun fires, simple movement mechanics. For example holding circle on a dropship and teleporting in to it is unrealistic having to jump in to the dropship and put your self in the pilot seat is realistic (or an animation that is done automatically for you). That is realistic being in the the future and part of an imaginary faction is just part of the lore and fiction. |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
463
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:02:00 -
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Iron Wolf Saber wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Has no place here, especially when you consider we have shields and lasers, spaceships and immortal clones. not only this, but we have a theocratic Empire that actually managed to make it to space, I still don't see how it's realistic in the slightest. Get out with your realism.
King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here!Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here! All theology has many forms, if jump gates and warp drives are gifts from god then so be it, out of the four empires they're the only ones that kept more than enough records to at least know that earth was possibly the homeworld to humanity. All the other races completely forgot everything.
You're talking about the Joves? |
Eris Ernaga
Super Nerds
463
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:11:00 -
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This is the most educational thread I have ever read war, realism, science, god/religion baha ^_^ ^_^ _^ |
SERPENT-Adamapple
Royal Uhlans
Amarr Empire
157
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:49:00 -
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Niccolo deLuce wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Has no place here, especially when you consider we have shields and lasers, spaceships and immortal clones. not only this, but we have a theocratic Empire that actually managed to make it to space, I still don't see how it's realistic in the slightest.
Get out with your realism.
Agreeing with IWS. A religion founded after space travel had been achieved would by default probably include space travel. It's not like they would colonize new worlds and then lock themselves back into the bronze age religions that we have currently. We already have lasers and spaceships btw, in case you've never read a science article from the last few decades, albeit obviously not at the level portrayed in this game. The clone thing is far-fetched, but pretty much everything in here is more realistic than a microwave would have seemed 100 years ago.
The clone thing is possible, its called stem-cell research. About transferring your memories, there's actually a scientist that's trying to achieve this, but not to a clone, but to a cyborg. So dust tech is not far from the truth. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
356
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:52:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Has no place here, especially when you consider we have shields and lasers, spaceships and immortal clones. not only this, but we have a theocratic Empire that actually managed to make it to space, I still don't see how it's realistic in the slightest. Get out with your realism.
King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here!Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here!
Very true. Just stop crying about being killed in 2 seconds by explosives. They are supposed to do that even in the future. |
Soldiersaint
Deepspace Digital
356
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Posted - 2013.08.18 03:56:00 -
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TiMeSpLiT--TeR wrote:What goes up, must come down. Balance. Realism.
Balance= Suckage |
TheAmazing FlyingPig
Crux Special Tasks Group
Gallente Federation
2778
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Posted - 2013.08.18 04:14:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:we have a theocratic Empire that actually managed to make it to space, I still don't see how it's realistic in the slightest.
You're my new best friend. |
ChromeBreaker
SVER True Blood
Public Disorder.
1027
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Posted - 2013.08.19 07:46:00 -
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FOrce from a railgun slug puts every weapon short of an orbital to shame...
The ammount of energy needed to "force" a laser of any tangable effect through an atmosphere would probably ignight it (really hope we're not fighting on an oxygen rich planet ) |
TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
193
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Posted - 2013.08.19 07:55:00 -
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Aero Yassavi wrote:Are you trying to imply that modern day theology cannot believe in space travel?
Personally I am a Catholic and I have no problem accepting the possibilities of space travel and science in general.
That's good then, denying reality is not good for anyone. |
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TechMechMeds
Swamp Marines
Kleenex Inc.
193
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Posted - 2013.08.19 07:57:00 -
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SERPENT-Adamapple wrote:Niccolo deLuce wrote:Jason Pearson wrote:Has no place here, especially when you consider we have shields and lasers, spaceships and immortal clones. not only this, but we have a theocratic Empire that actually managed to make it to space, I still don't see how it's realistic in the slightest.
Get out with your realism.
Agreeing with IWS. A religion founded after space travel had been achieved would by default probably include space travel. It's not like they would colonize new worlds and then lock themselves back into the bronze age religions that we have currently. We already have lasers and spaceships btw, in case you've never read a science article from the last few decades, albeit obviously not at the level portrayed in this game. The clone thing is far-fetched, but pretty much everything in here is more realistic than a microwave would have seemed 100 years ago. The clone thing is possible, its called stem-cell research. About transferring your memories, there's actually a scientist that's trying to achieve this, but not to a clone, but to a cyborg. So dust tech is not far from the truth.
Search for the clone sheep named dolly we cloned in the UK, in sure it was the UK but regardless its been done. |
Shokhann Echo
Kang Lo Directorate
Gallente Federation
43
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Posted - 2013.08.19 08:08:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Has no place here, especially when you consider we have shields and lasers, spaceships and immortal clones. not only this, but we have a theocratic Empire that actually managed to make it to space, I still don't see how it's realistic in the slightest. Get out with your realism.
King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here!Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here!
everyone in the community (myself including) use realism MAINLY when it suits their argument, but not when it goes against what they want (although i do concede to realism on both good and bad parts for my bases). |
GLOBAL RAGE
Consolidated Dust
0
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Posted - 2013.08.19 20:51:00 -
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Realism is Murder taxing everyone, some I would back over-just to be sure. Why? because if I had been recloned 6570 times Id have an empty fifth of Whiskey on my LAV passenger seat! |
Charlotte O'Dell
0uter.Heaven
EoN.
957
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Posted - 2013.08.19 21:18:00 -
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In reality we have 6 **** grenade launchers with a 15m casualty radius and a warhead strong enough to penetrate light-armores vehicles.
By comparison, the mass driver is terrible. That being said, an M16 is effective out to 800m depending on the shooter. Realism is a bad thing for video games. |
Iron Wolf Saber
Den of Swords
7521
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Posted - 2013.08.19 21:21:00 -
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I would also like to state that technological research is consider the understanding the work of god by the amarrians thus researching is a religious practice for those pirors that take up on it. |
Operative 1171 Aajli
Bragian Order
Amarr Empire
148
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Posted - 2013.08.19 21:45:00 -
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Jason Pearson wrote:Has no place here, especially when you consider we have shields and lasers, spaceships and immortal clones. not only this, but we have a theocratic Empire that actually managed to make it to space, I still don't see how it's realistic in the slightest. Get out with your realism.
King of the Forums // Seraphim <3 Comment and like this thread about PvE, Here!Also, check out the Indirect Fire ability, Here!
Anytime ppl talk about realism in a game it is always in reference to game mechanic abuse, game flow and immersion.
Failure to understand that is either trolling or fanboy defense of exploiting cheap game mechanics. Arguments over realism are relative to how a game mechanic allows for game balance, variety and flow. |
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