Armor buff is confirmed. Shield penalties will only follow if the balance is still out of whack.

Bet you a dollar even if it is balanced armor players will ***** and moan saying it isnt and shields will get nerfed
Also obligatory anyone that chooses one way or the other is a moron and hybrid tanking is where its at

People's play styles will determine which type of suit they wear. I'll take your dollar bill, wipe my ass with it, and give it back to you - that's the approximate value of your above statement. Calling a large portion of the community morons because they don't wear hybrid is...moronic. The irony.

Thanks for the sh*tty post. I just remembered why I haven't logged on in weeks.

Meh, I'll find a way around it. Caldarian technology hasn't let me down so far. Bless me with my Rail Rifle oh great Ishukone Corporation.

Personally I like the idea of shield extenders physically increasing your hitbox or your scan profile. It's extending your shields, so one could argue that they are physically larger, that or the increased electrical activity makes you blink like a christmas tree on the minimap.

for the first two weeks of any major changes...this is whats going on in CCP;s headquarters :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-rkFaIPyL4

Shields have downs too, flux grenade scrambler lazer rifles less hp from our extenders vs plates

These aren't downsides. The shield modules have no inherent disadvantage to using them. If you fit an armor plate, you are slower. What is the penalty for fitting a shield? Absolutely nothing at the moment.

If you want to say that various weapons are downsides to tanking--which doesn't really make any sense--then armor has downs of mass drivers, flaylock pistols, locus grenades, etc.

These aren't downsides. The shield modules have no inherent disadvantage to using them. If you fit an armor plate, you are slower. What is the penalty for fitting a shield? Absolutely nothing at the moment.

If you want to say that various weapons are downsides to tanking--which doesn't really make any sense--then armor has downs of mass drivers, flaylock pistols, locus grenades, etc.

Shields have downs too, flux grenade scrambler lazer rifles less hp from our extenders vs plates

Is this post for real?

How about the fact that to get as much HP as a basic armor plate you have to spend more than four times the PG/CPU? Sounds like a downside to me.

You can tell this is the kind of guy that chooses only one defensive option

I dont understand CCP. Instead of completely changing the current armor, why not just introduce a new high power module that reduces/removes the speed penalty on armor?

I dont understand CCP. Instead of completely changing the current armor, why not just introduce a new high power module that reduces/removes the speed penalty on armor?

shield tanked suits can fit plates, in fact, a fully fitted gallente suits will have only ~80 hp Hp advantage over a shield tanked suit after the armor buff.

But do you need to get a repairer on your shield? Check the CPU PG on those plz. Check how much time it take to repair armor with a repairer on vs the shield. from any suits.

Not as fast as when your armor is being repped by a proto rep tool/triage hive I bet.

Armor/shields is a complicated relationship with many variables involved and its pros/cons have been debated into the ground. My beef is with the people that make ludicrous claims one way or the other, like the guy claiming that shields have no inherent disadvantages.

Caldari Assault: OH no! I'm down to half shields time to walk around the corner 5 seconds while I quickly get all 500 of my shields back.

Gallente Assault: Oh no I have no shields and half armor time to go back to my ground spawn and get a new suit because 5 HP/s isn't fast enough.

This, the six hundred shield Cal Assault around the corner should never be able to hide from the TACNET. I guess the 1000 HP armor fatty can make the camera shake. Mess up peoples aim when he runs.

lol. Do you know how many penalties armor has?
And shields isn't Guaranteed

Meh, I'll find a way around it. Caldarian technology hasn't let me down so far. Bless me with my Rail Rifle oh great Ishukone Corporation.

Hahaha, shields getting nerfed. I got laughed at for saying I am gonna spec into armor. Looks like I get the last laugh now. Karma is a ***** cladari fotm kids.

lol. It's not a ludicrous claim. Shields don't have a downside. A shield extender doesn't make you easier to hit, cause your shield to perform differently, slow you down or anything. Period. You add a shield extender and you add more straight hp.

I'm not saying that there's not comparative differences with armor fittings, hp amounts and the like. But you're saying that its a "ludicrous claim" to say shields have no downside, when, in fact, they don't. Show me the penalty for fitting a shield extender, and I'll glady admit I was wrong.; for example, the penalty for fitting an armor plate is I walk slower.