DUST Search - Why we should have Respecs: Vet Perspective

Ninjanomyx wrote:

DCUO has paid Respecs so it is not unfathomable.....but I prefer not to advocate this route. Everyone claiming "This is EVE/New Eden HTFU!!!!!" are ignorant to the fact that this is soooooooooo far removed from that..... 1st & foremost it is an FPS, partially developed with MAG associates, & that had "Earned Respecs" over time/gameplay. DUST also lacks the substance to grant it MMO status. There is no meaningful interaction between DUST & EVE. The vast majority of the skill tree is ever-changing & vastly unfinished (SP Sinks where final 2 Levels offer no unlock/bonus). Promised launch content is missing. Core functions/mechanics are either not present or buggy. Player market is unavailable to even determine value of loot. There is almost no balance or player retension incentive. Marketplace items/statistics are still disgustingly flawed. And I won't even bother mentioning how vehicle functions are punished & unrewarding b/c I could write a dissertation on this subject alone.....

Technically.....until the core mechanics, balancing foundation, PvE & other launch promised content, DUST-to-EVE & vice versa interactions, player market, vehicular function/protection, skill tree foundation to eliminate SP "Sand Traps", and even racial variants of current suits/vehicles (Including Pilot Dropsuit) are in place......we are still in BETA testing mode and it should be treated as such (Minus RESET as this would utterly kill player retension at this point.....) This all points to 1 fact.....this is not yet an MMOFPS, it is a BETA for a Lobby Shooter.

Considering the above facts/factors I would like to propose this:

Proposal Revision 1.0:

1. Upon the 1.5 Update release (Or ASAP after 1.5), 1 Mass Respec (Be it Optional or Serverwide) should be provided. Only Lifetime SP and Skill Book ISK would be refunded. Patch Notes & ingame News Ticker/Info Tab upon login should note to players that specialization in each Type (IE: Light/Medium/Heavy Dropsuit & LAV/HAV/Dropship) are finalized, and those who did not yet receive a Racial Variant will receive a Partial SP Refund when the content becomes available.

Considering this is to be a major Vehicle & other content Update (Hopefully Vehicle Racial Variants & Pilot Dropsuit included), it would clear the slate for the following functions.

Side Note: SP Sinkholes should be locked. If Level 4 & 5 still have no Unlock/Bonus associated with them by now.....then you should not be able to allocate SP past the Level where Unlocks are attained. If not possible in 1.5 then hopefully by 1.6.

2. Hopefully by this point we may have revised Battle Academy. Upon exiting Battle Academy a player should be allotted 1 SP Respec within 30 Days. An onscreen notification/reminder would pop-up, informing the player of time remaining before the Respec expiration date, making sure to note it as a 1 time only availability. This should give the player ample time to research forums, form bonds, ask questions of Adepts & Vets, gather data, and maybe even join a Corporation.

This would disable the "Punishment Factor" for the new player without diminishing the value of the traditional MMO experience.

3. Partial SP Refund as each Racial Variant is released. At this point it would only apply to those who specialized in the specific Type being provided Racial Variants at the time. This would obviously have no effect on the Medium Frame Dropsuits as they already have their Racial Variants available. Should the Pilot Suit receive no Racial Variants as of 1.5 they would receive their Partial SP Refund along with the Light Dropsuit releases. The same applies to Heavy & Commando Dropsuits respectively.

4. Upon the alteration of the Skill Tree (IE: SP Sinkholes remedied, SP Value changes, Unlock alterations & Bonus applications) there should be a Partial SP Refund to the affected Skills.

I believe this set of proposals to be the most median/acceptable compromize between the feedbacks that were provided. This is a combined effort and I thank those of you who provided valuable feedback for your time & consideration. Your feedback was well received Cool


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pamuku420tyme RedBerry Genocide 8	Posted - 2013.08.20 00:58:00 - [1] - Quote Ninjanomyx wrote: DCUO has paid Respecs so it is not unfathomable.....but I prefer not to advocate this route. Everyone claiming "This is EVE/New Eden HTFU!!!!!" are ignorant to the fact that this is soooooooooo far removed from that..... 1st & foremost it is an FPS, partially developed with MAG associates, & that had "Earned Respecs" over time/gameplay. DUST also lacks the substance to grant it MMO status. There is no meaningful interaction between DUST & EVE. The vast majority of the skill tree is ever-changing & vastly unfinished (SP Sinks where final 2 Levels offer no unlock/bonus). Promised launch content is missing. Core functions/mechanics are either not present or buggy. Player market is unavailable to even determine value of loot. There is almost no balance or player retension incentive. Marketplace items/statistics are still disgustingly flawed. And I won't even bother mentioning how vehicle functions are punished & unrewarding b/c I could write a dissertation on this subject alone..... Technically.....until the core mechanics, balancing foundation, PvE & other launch promised content, DUST-to-EVE & vice versa interactions, player market, vehicular function/protection, skill tree foundation to eliminate SP "Sand Traps", and even racial variants of current suits/vehicles (Including Pilot Dropsuit) are in place......we are still in BETA testing mode and it should be treated as such (Minus RESET as this would utterly kill player retension at this point.....) This all points to 1 fact.....this is not yet an MMOFPS, it is a BETA for a Lobby Shooter. Considering the above facts/factors I would like to propose this: Proposal Revision 1.0: 1. Upon the 1.5 Update release (Or ASAP after 1.5), 1 Mass Respec (Be it Optional or Serverwide) should be provided. Only Lifetime SP and Skill Book ISK would be refunded. Patch Notes & ingame News Ticker/Info Tab upon login should note to players that specialization in each Type (IE: Light/Medium/Heavy Dropsuit & LAV/HAV/Dropship) are finalized, and those who did not yet receive a Racial Variant will receive a Partial SP Refund when the content becomes available. Considering this is to be a major Vehicle & other content Update (Hopefully Vehicle Racial Variants & Pilot Dropsuit included), it would clear the slate for the following functions. Side Note: SP Sinkholes should be locked. If Level 4 & 5 still have no Unlock/Bonus associated with them by now.....then you should not be able to allocate SP past the Level where Unlocks are attained. If not possible in 1.5 then hopefully by 1.6. 2. Hopefully by this point we may have revised Battle Academy. Upon exiting Battle Academy a player should be allotted 1 SP Respec within 30 Days. An onscreen notification/reminder would pop-up, informing the player of time remaining before the Respec expiration date, making sure to note it as a 1 time only availability. This should give the player ample time to research forums, form bonds, ask questions of Adepts & Vets, gather data, and maybe even join a Corporation. This would disable the "Punishment Factor" for the new player without diminishing the value of the traditional MMO experience. 3. Partial SP Refund as each Racial Variant is released. At this point it would only apply to those who specialized in the specific Type being provided Racial Variants at the time. This would obviously have no effect on the Medium Frame Dropsuits as they already have their Racial Variants available. Should the Pilot Suit receive no Racial Variants as of 1.5 they would receive their Partial SP Refund along with the Light Dropsuit releases. The same applies to Heavy & Commando Dropsuits respectively. 4. Upon the alteration of the Skill Tree (IE: SP Sinkholes remedied, SP Value changes, Unlock alterations & Bonus applications) there should be a Partial SP Refund to the affected Skills. I believe this set of proposals to be the most median/acceptable compromize between the feedbacks that were provided. This is a combined effort and I thank those of you who provided valuable feedback for your time & consideration. Your feedback was well received AGREE!!! i do not use exploits or any glitch. but i have had 4 things nerfed after specing into them. plus the awsomeness of the commando suit. i would love to see a repec... needs to be one since people like crying about the game and they change the whole flow of the game why not just throw in a respec when a patch comes out. They can obviously put in notifications when we go to log in, like in mordus challange where we won stuff that we couldnt use.... anyways i think a respec is in great order!!!