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The Robot Devil
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.16 09:16:00 -
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DUST will never be a finished product like EVE will never be a finished product so having an "unfinished" game isn't a good argument.
Refunding SP will not help with enjoyment, player retention, or entice new players to start and stay. Refunding will only make the game seem different for a short while and the same cycle of boredom will continue. Our problem is lack of content. All racial suits, weapons and vehicles would solve many problems. PvE is another major step to keeping players around.
Flavor of the month builds will always be here and our job as players is to provide feedback that can be used to help ensure that the fotm is not op. Flavors are good and show that the community is able to adapt and learn what is good.
Tiericide was used in EVE to bring ships of the same size more in line with each other and allow lower SP pilots to fly a different ship in the same tech level. Instead of having to wait to level 5 skills to fly a frigate one can now fly any t1 frigate with lvl 1 skill and then the pilot can put more SP into that ship type to make it better.
This game isn't that difficult to learn and almost all information is available in the description of the item or skill. EVE's skill sets make this game look like pacman and if someone was to ask for a respec they would be laughed out of the game. This is CCP's game and their vision, we we invited to play and provide feedback to help progress and better the game not fundamentally change it by brow beating developers into changes that we want. This game will never be as popular as many other fps because it is different. They didn't add zombies and calm it new or and better sounds and make you pay $60 again.
The only things that will draw players in and keep us here is good content. No other gimmick is going to work because the people who want this game don't want another bland, pointless and repetitive shooter. We have that now and it sucks. We want something different.
Want to make this game better? Then provide positive feedback that actually addresses a problem instated of a one sentence post calling CCP stupid. Play the stupid game and have fun. Skill into what you like not what is the best at the moment. Expect nerfs and buffs. Realize the game will never be finished and that there is no "end game" so complaining about how the game is unfinished is like complaining about water being wet.
Content, content, and more content is what is needed. Everything else will work out later if we have something to do. Stagnation and boredom is killing us and nothing else. Buffs and nerfs do not change the player count and the reallocation of SP will only help for a few days and long winded diatribes like this one do very little.
Play for fun and play other games, this isn't a second job. The game has seen marked improvement in every area and we are just now getting to the good stuff, let's not screw it up by changing our focus onto a gimmick that will not help us in the long run. |
The Robot Devil
Chatelain Rapid Response
Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2013.08.21 08:03:00 -
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I haven't seen one good reason for a SP refund. Respecs will not help fix anything. They may spike player numbers for a short while but in the long run all of the same problems will be here.
I do agree with a partial refund for forced choices but only slightly and only if all of the new items are added at the same time. The problem is lack of content and low quality performance. We need the tools to provide our own content but we only have the tools to make us mad.
Changing stats of out gear doesn't warrant repecs because the game will change constantly till they shut down the servers.
"I can't test out new gear" - Almost all items can be leveled oned in very little time. This problem seems from a matchmaker that doesn't work and can never work because of the difference between the players.
"They changed the ______ and I can't play like I did." If it broke your game then you were probably exploiting a known imbalance and we all knew it was coming.
"New players have no chance." Everyone here was new at one point in time, yes some of us have been here longer but it doesn't mean much. I have had a respec or two but not because I asked for them or even wanted them. The forum is here along with plenty of other player generated videos, blogs and podcasts. Doing research does have advantages.
"The game is boring and a respec would make it fun again." I may be fun for a week or two but the boredom of stagnation will creep back. We need things to do not more time thinking about where to put SP. The game is lackluster and will continue to be so until we have a full line of suits, vehicles, a battle system where we are separated by sec stat and pve.
"I made bad choices with my SP." Sorry, I also pumped SP into somethings I wasn't happy with but I sucked it up and so should you. I never put more than a level or two into something until I try it for a few days.
"It will fix proto stomping and fotm" How? Most players will spec straight into the current fotm and continue proto stomping like before. I have less than 10M SP but a person with 20 M SP will be able to perfect skills in more than one role. This hurts the idea of the game and the players.
Respec win not raise the number of active and players. It would probably drop the total because they came back to a game thinking it was different only to find the same thing they left. It will not improve performance or balance because a completely different meta will evolve and more dev time will be spent on re-rebalancing. It will not make newer players more effective because if they bare good SP doesn't matter a whole lot and if they are bad they will continue to be bad. Respec will not fix any problems this game faces. The only fixes are constant feedback from the community and devs, continued hard work in balancing, bug squashing and performance. We need a full racial line of all weapons, suits and vehicles. We need pve and we need something to fight over that make our egos larger. Respec don't fix any of these problems and never will, they may seem to help but it is only makes us feel better for a while. |
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