Damn. You must have never went against proto forge guns and AV grenades.

We shouldn't lose 2m isk because some dickbag with inviso-swarms or the non-rendering forge gunner looked at us for 5 seconds. make that crap cost more, and remove the militia forge, replace it with a militia HMG.

I'm not being killed by them. But they are enough to force a retreat. My 2m isk 8m SP "toy" as you call it is being invalidated by something that requires 0 ******* SP, AND LESS THAN 2000 ISK. The dev who thought these were a good idea needs to be kicked in the balls by a Glaswegian soccer player.

Even infantry players want that bullshit cannon gone.

So you think you shouldn't retreat at all and should be able to just sit there and butcher infantry all day?
Your proportional cost argument is completely invalid - a militia assault rifle is perfectly capable of driving off or killing a prototype suit.

If you are taken down by militia assault riffles you deserve to lose 100k.

Teamwork is hard yo.

Ima disagree on this one mr Cat.

AVer take for granted how much power they have over tanks.

TANKs need a rebalancing.... but IMO all they need is an increase to movement speed. I find it hard to imagine a futuristic tank that cannot stop, turn, manoeuvre effectively through rough terrain.

Except it doesn't exist and probably well never exist.
Except is doesn't exist and never well.
As it stands HAVs cost much more than any suit fitting. This combined with the AV that's become incredibly powerful causes HAVs to be an unviable career for each battle.
I think most of us well agree that we worry more about being able effectively go into a career without the constant loss of ISK than KDR.
Also no tanker wants to go 60 - 0. We aren't idiots that have no concept of overpowered. There are no OP vehicles (minus LLAV) in the game. The only OP things that exist and that are complained about are infantry based weaponry. We have to deal with the constant infantry only OP gear. So yeah we well complain about OP things.
Complaining is to often put with QQ or cry baby. Complain: To make a formal accusation.
ISK lost combined with the current state of AV is something to complain about

and your fine with it being AR514... of course you are..

it makes no logical sense for the biggest piece of equipment that's player operated to be the same as a dropsuit which is less that 1/5 its size.

chromosome was the closest weve ever gotten to balance (I think we can all agree on that) and CCP threw it all away because infantry could one shot everything with their ARs

that's PC, im talking about pub matches which is the same as what you were talking about earlier, funny how you just switch argument subjects when it suits your view point... we stick to our arguments to the details, we don't change anything.. you do.


also

Assault Rifle- : any of various automatic or semiautomatic rifles with large capacity magazines designed for military use ..

its not being smug, its being logical, smug is just plain ignorance

So, MLT which is less than 2k isk and 0 SP should completely invalidate 2m isk and 8m SP. something literally anyone can make a suit for, for basically free(mlt heavy, mlt forge) can force something that requires 8m just to be useable without dying in the first 10 seconds(now it takes almost 15!)

in CoD , Go